Daa vs. intimidate

chedapalooza said:
Ya I'd like to ideally do zma+intim+ pm burner which usually contain sleep aids / gh factors.. Just wondering if there's any negative interactions with the pm burners
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Can I get a bump on this from iforce.
Prob got overlooked a page back
 
VaughnTrue said:
what is a PM burner? you mean a non-stim fat burner, or a sleep aid product?
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Well it's essentially both in one.. Like alri lean dreams or controlled labs reduction pm, nrgx sleep maxx, etc.
 
JReinhal said:
Sorry. There was more. Intimidate/Testabolan V2/Erase Pro/Anabeta Elite. I ended up looking like a sexy bitch with blood test results to back it. =)
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I've been doing a bit of reading on this and have followed your lead and ordered the above stack (with ZMA, a multi, and i use Jack3d as a preworkout but only once a week [for legs], if that).

anything else you would recommend that would be necessary to maximize gains/prevent any unwanted sides during or after the stack?

I'm in my mid 30s, have been training for over a decade, and have moved from more powerlifting/strength focussed training to body building (4 day split, 8-12 reps, lots more exercise variety), loving it.

thanks.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Rest assured, these "PM burners" aren't burning any fat...
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Just those particular products, or is it just not possible to increase metabolism or fat burning while sleeping?
 
uvawahoowa said:
Just those particular products, or is it just not possible to increase metabolism or fat burning while sleeping?
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Most products advertised as sleep aids + fat burners fail to do any fat burning. I guess if you put TTA, raspberry ketones, and green coffee bean in a pre-bed product, you could call it a PM burner.
 
jasperhup said:
I've been doing a bit of reading on this and have followed your lead and ordered the above stack (with ZMA, a multi, and i use Jack3d as a preworkout but only once a week [for legs], if that).

anything else you would recommend that would be necessary to maximize gains/prevent any unwanted sides during or after the stack?

I'm in my mid 30s, have been training for over a decade, and have moved from more powerlifting/strength focussed training to body building (4 day split, 8-12 reps, lots more exercise variety), loving it.

thanks.
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Our personal profiles are very similar.
I had also supplemented Boron based on this article here:Invalid Link Removed
For those six weeks I upped my organic red meat intake as well. All in all it was a success and very surprising for such a short period of time.
The only side effect was low libido which, after talking with folks on this forum, was due to my estrogen getting crushed by the Erase Pro. I went EOD with it and libido mostly normalized.
 
VaughnTrue said:
Great info. The divanil found in Tv2 actually decreases total test(doesn't matter relax) while significantly increasing free test. Doesn't surprise me one bit your FT was over the limit :D
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So can you explain exactly what the divanil is? This is a natty product (like anabeta elite) and not a prohormone right?
I see they have a deal with reservitol for an AI.. Is that necessary, or would normal erase be ok? (already have a bottle of erase)
 
Yes, its natty.
 
a lot of people LOVE the erase intimidate stack.
Divanil is also known as stinging nettle

check out THIS....Real results stack!
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JN230 said:
a lot of people LOVE the erase intimidate stack.
Divanil is also known as stinging nettle

check out THIS....Real results stack!
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Yeah I bought myself that, after hearing homeboys above success I was interested in the testobolanv2
 
Divanil binds to SHBG and ABP to increase your free testosterone levels. The ALCAR found in Tv2 has shown to increase
NMDA receptor sensitivity
 
VaughnTrue said:
Divanil binds to SHBG and ABP to increase your free testosterone levels. The ALCAR found in Tv2 has shown to increase
NMDA receptor sensitivity
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Is it different than standard capped alcar from say primaforce or sns? I take 500mg w meals and Pre workout for almost 2 years straight now.. Good/bad idea?
 
I have been taking SNS DAA on an empty stomach with ZMA right before bed for almost a month now and I have been getting the best sleep in years. Unless I have to pee I dont wake once, and even then I fall back to sleep instantly. Been remembering my dreams more, not sure if that means anything. Feel more rested in the morning for sure.
 
chedapalooza said:
Is it different than standard capped alcar from say primaforce or sns? I take 500mg w meals and Pre workout for almost 2 years straight now.. Good/bad idea?
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ALCAR = ALCAR. Tv2 contains a full 2000mg/day at recommended dosing(so a full 30 days in 1 bottle).
 
boogyman said:
I have been taking SNS DAA on an empty stomach with ZMA right before bed for almost a month now and I have been getting the best sleep in years. Unless I have to pee I dont wake once, and even then I fall back to sleep instantly. Been remembering my dreams more, not sure if that means anything. Feel more rested in the morning for sure.
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Good to hear!

VaughnTrue said:
ALCAR = ALCAR. Tv2 contains a full 2000mg/day at recommended dosing(so a full 30 days in 1 bottle).
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Just picked up 3 bottles for 10 bucks a piece!
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Good to hear!

Just picked up 3 bottles for 10 bucks a piece!
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Jealous!
 
uvawahoowa said:
You beat me to it! Sold out now...should have pulled the trigger...
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Where was it at?
 
I've been using Intimidate for a couple of weeks now. Most nights I sleep pretty well but occasionally wake up with panic attacks. I’ve never had this problem with regular DAA. I’m a bit concerned about the “more is better” approach. I haven’t seen any studies indicating that higher levels of DAA are more beneficial than the 3 gm. used in the original test. I’m also concerned about the safety of higher dosing.
 
BBB said:
I've been using Intimidate for a couple of weeks now. Most nights I sleep pretty well but occasionally wake up with panic attacks. I’ve never had this problem with regular DAA. I’m a bit concerned about the “more is better” approach. I haven’t seen any studies indicating that higher levels of DAA are more beneficial than the 3 gm. used in the original test. I’m also concerned about the safety of higher dosing.
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we don't suggest using more than 30mg/day of Intimidate.

Intimidate causes an increase in REM sleep. This may cause people to dream, or have nightmares more often. This is most likely(but not 100%) the cause of said panic attacks.
 
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