Hyde
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Haven’t used it but it’s touted as being stronger per mg. Lots of places selling it and that’s the general sales pitch. But the price difference isn’t crazy either.
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Haven’t used it but it’s touted as being stronger per mg. Lots of places selling it and that’s the general sales pitch. But the price difference isn’t crazy either.
Hyde
Legend
Haven’t used it but it’s touted as being stronger per mg. Lots of places selling it and that’s the general sales pitch. But the price difference isn’t crazy either.
Smont
Legend
I know carderine went back to human trials not too long ago, any idea where this other version stand's?
Hyde
Legend
I have not read into it in the slightest. Cardarine works well, is affordable, and is safe enough by my measure to use it in the limited capacity that I will so I haven’t dug deeper. I’m not exactly doing a bunch of cardio or trying to get lean here
Smont
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I normally only use it at 10-12.5mg when on orals. Or before bed for gda purposes. I never noticed the cardio benifits at any dose so I don't bother for that purposeI have not read into it in the slightest. Cardarine works well, is affordable, and is safe enough by my measure to use it in the limited capacity that I will so I haven’t dug deeper. I’m not exactly doing a bunch of cardio or trying to get lean here
manifesto
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That's interesting...I feel like I have an extra lung when I take this stuff...cardio gets wayyy better.
Hyde
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I basically only use it on orals because it makes such a big difference in limiting the capacity hit orals give me. And it helps maintain better HDL in their presence as well.
Ironpirate
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Cardarine has been around for many years and has been used by Olympians for who knows how long but it just doesn't seem like a chemical that needed upgrading. I've seen rad 150 recently somewhere too. I try to avoid being the guinea pig whenever possible.
Smont
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I wish that was the case for me. Especially for my boxing workout. Would be awesome but nope, nothing.
Smont
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It works very well as a gda, honestly, I feel like carderine and metformin have a lot in common
Hyde
Legend
Need more details. Why are you looking to change? Price? Taste? Profile? Digestion issues?
And how much do you use now/how often? Some things are better for shakes, better for oats, better for sludge. I have about 4 tubs of different things open at once for different reasons, typically.
Hyde
Legend
Lol all pure isolate tastes fairly disappointing. A good isolate should be watery even with only 4 oz fluid.
Dymatize makes some solid flavor options at good price points, and their stuff has always been legit when third-party tested.
AfroPope
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my recollection from reading up on studies and meta-studies a few years back is that there's virtually no evidence that glutathione supplementation has any real benefits.
Also I'm very much a fan of blended proteins but if you want isolate I will also vouch for the Dymatize stuff tasting real good.
Also I'm very much a fan of blended proteins but if you want isolate I will also vouch for the Dymatize stuff tasting real good.
Hyde
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You really don’t need any studies: the immune support benefits are extremely obvious. Pin 2-300mg IM when you are sick and you will feel decidedly better the next day, maybe the day after even. Pinning 600mg+, it can be a solid restoration play, but as much as it lowers inflammation at those bigger doses, I’d treat it with the same infrequency as NSAIDS.
Now, orally, that doesn’t seem to do anything worth the expense.
AfroPope
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That's fair - I don't recall if any of the studies I was reading dealt with IM or SubQ administration, or if they specified. I'd have to go back and take a look but I imagine they only dealt with oral dosing. This was a few years back when glutathione was really being pushed as a recovery supplement and being added to pre-, intra- and post- workout products, so that would make sense.
jtbull
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looks
pretty solid looking to me. Any hair issues with primo.
BBiceps
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Same as with all DHT’s, if it’s in your genes to be bald it’ll speed it up.
thebigt
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aint got nothin to add other than to drop in and say hey...
manifesto
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How u been brother? Haven't spoke in a while after I took a break from the Trump thread
Jeremyk1
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Pretty sure I saw someone say injectable glutathione can help repair kidneys.
Hyde
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I don’t know why, but their stuff crashed that I had in the fridge. Several other guys here noticed the same thing, including their rep. Which doesn’t make any sense, but just a fair warning.
I have pinned it cold in a hurry, but it’s optimal to let it warm up after it’s drawn up. Just clutching the full syringe for a minute in your palm will warm it a lot. It’s pretty uncomfortable regardless, but the cold definitely adds to the unpleasant nature of the shot.
manifesto
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What do you mean by "crashed"? I've heard this term before but never inquired to what it actually meant
Hyde
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It means the active came out of the solution; what was once one smooth seamless liquid now has separated ingredient in it.
Things that are oil-based like AAS crystals can be heated up to get it to melt back in, but the way this glutathione crashes it looks like a snow globe of white material and it cannot go back into solution via any means - it will be trash. When I emailed them, they said do not refrigerate it.
manifesto
Well-known member
Gotcha...I just looked at mine and it looks smooth...interesting
Will going deep IM with this help with the PIP?
Hyde
Legend
Not really.
It’s kinda weird. As soon as you start to push it, it will sting a little. Afterwards it kinda aches, usually until I go to bed, but will be fine next day.
It’s not bad, just unpleasant. Don’t sweat it!
jtbull
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Well if 600mg of test a wee and 500mg of eq ( two 15 wee cycles in the last year) did not affect the hair much then is that oftne the case or since this is DHT is there a difference as i know those are hot DHT based. Kind of sucks as i hear test, npp and primo are a good run
manifesto
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So, I tweaked my lower back...im not sure if it's from lifting or taking care of my mom. She's an amputee, so I lift her quite a bit for bathing, transfers, etc...
It seems like it could be a sciatic nerve issue...it is feeling a little better with some stretching, and anvil.
You guys go any other suggestions...I can't really stop my caregiving responsibilities.
It seems like it could be a sciatic nerve issue...it is feeling a little better with some stretching, and anvil.
You guys go any other suggestions...I can't really stop my caregiving responsibilities.
jtbull
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Is mom pretty big? Just to ask. I know it sounds funny but maybe wear a spot belt. When i help a buddy around his salvage yard i started doing that. God bless for taking care of mama. Mine has been gone since 2005 and i miss her all hte time. I would do that same thing. I have not tried it but bp or bc 157 is supposed help with healing. Could be an idea.
manifesto
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Thank you brother....yeah, it's been my dad and I taking care of her for about 15 years. She has severe Rheutoid Arthritis, and lost her right leg during a knee replacement, that she ended up getting staph infection.
My dad and I fought the infection for months with IV antibiotics, etc, and he ultimately lost her leg above the knee....then a couple years back she broke the femur in her good leg during a wheel chair transfer.
So, we are scared to have her put much weight on the surgically repaired leg with all the hardware. Her bones are very brittle due to years or corticosteroids (Prednisone).
She's not huge, but the lifting is almost dead weight at awkward angles. A weight belt isn't a bad idea.
manifesto
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CYCLE UPDATE
Currently on:
500 test cypionate/wk
600 primo enanthate/wk
300 L-Carnitine daily
Stanogen 2ml (may drip this later on and let the Primo do its thing)
No AI, and no high E2 symptoms.
Im in week 2. I had to delay for a bit because i got sick. I got my hands on a little more gear, so bumped up the dosages a bit. This is broken up into 3 shots per week (M-W-F) to maintain as stable blood levels as possible, and avoid the androgen surge.
Aiming for 12 weeks, but I'll push it longer if BW is all good.
Eating at maintenence. I'll try to get some before pics in here when I can.
Currently on:
500 test cypionate/wk
600 primo enanthate/wk
300 L-Carnitine daily
Stanogen 2ml (may drip this later on and let the Primo do its thing)
No AI, and no high E2 symptoms.
Im in week 2. I had to delay for a bit because i got sick. I got my hands on a little more gear, so bumped up the dosages a bit. This is broken up into 3 shots per week (M-W-F) to maintain as stable blood levels as possible, and avoid the androgen surge.
Aiming for 12 weeks, but I'll push it longer if BW is all good.
Eating at maintenence. I'll try to get some before pics in here when I can.
Hyde
Legend
I have damaged discs in my back from improper bracing during heavy lifting for my earlier lifting career. The thing that has saved me, allowed me to come back more than once, is the McGill Big 3. I do them 4-6 days per week, always before lower body work & usually most lifting sessions. Especially the Bird Dogs; those are the absolute most bang for buck exercise/activation/prehab of them all. They are proven to temporarily increase your ability to brace your torso as well as overall provide benefits over most of your day.
You have to fix bad movement patterns that put you in compromised lifting positions for your spine. You have to stay braced at all times so the lumbar can remain neutral, and if you have to rotate the load (moving mom from bed to wheelchair, etc) your core should remain stacked in line while you rotate your entire body with the load to keep it in front of you, not rotating only your core. Think about spinning in a circle in place instead of a golf swing.
If you want a book to read, Back Mechanic on Amazon by Dr. Stuart McGill is absolute gold. Worth every penny of the $40.
Here’s the best video explaining the McGill Big 3. Brian Carroll had broken bones in his lumbar, and still managed to eventually come back with Stu’s methods and squat 1,306lbs for the Multiply world record:
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Hyde
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Also, take a couple short 10 min walks each day. If you put them after a meal it’s also great for blood sugar, but for back health it doesn’t matter when just get walking. Let the arms swing a little to naturally flush blood through the low back passively. McGill is huge on this.
Kronic
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happen to know when you bought that vial? I been wondering if I could try putting them in the fridge again.
you can do shallow IM
the best way to prevent pip with glutathione is to cut it with something else. I usually use vitamin D or carnitine or whatever else I'm injecting. I even snuck 30% glutathione into a subq injection and no pip
manifesto
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Speaking of AA...has anyone used then lately? I placed an order a couple days ago and haven't heard anything back...no confirmation email...nothing
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