Could Bulking and Cutting Be Done the Same Week?

ucimigrate

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Hi Everyone,

1. Can anyone read and comment on this article about very low-calorie dieting (400 calories a day of either whey or sucrose) + 9 hours on the treadmill each day = 0.5 kilograms of fat loss per day?

2. What is the science of over-feeding?

When does it cease restoring lost glycogen and muscle mass and start going to more body fat?

3. Could someone combine the best of both these worlds?

a. Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday - 2 hours of heavy weight training workout

20 calories per pound of body weight (33% protein, 33% carb, 33% lipid) = high protein, high lipid diet for weight gain

b. Wednesday, Saturday, and Sunday, severely restrictive diet, with nearly ten hours of gentle cardio?

4. To save time, many people would say to do more intense cardio. Yes, more intensive cardio would have more benefits, but risks interference with the weight training. Any commentary?
 
I'm sure it can Be Done...
But only effective if the person was well educated in Nutrition and Training..
No Matter what the Training is...
Food will dictate the Outcome..
My. O2.....
Z...
 
Candidly, I cant think of many things worse than eating sucrose alone. The article states that the participants were already obese suggesting, at least to me, that insulin resistance was an almost certainty. The last thing I would want to do would be to cause even greater inflammation by dumping in 100 grams of sugar (overloading the liver's ability to manage it and more than likely causing additional issues for the kidneys). I am all for experimenting, but if I was going to try something like this, I personally would select my calories from MCT oil, EVCO or a source of protein.
 
Yea those are all terrible ideas. You're overthinking it. Bulk until you can't see your abs, cut until they're clearly defined, shower and repeat. Severe calorie restrictions backfire like 90% of the time unless someone is obese like in that article or in contest prep.
 
Resolve10 said:
They definitely didn't have issues with the sucrose, it is used as a calorie control versus the protein. You can't just run a study and only use protein versus a control of nothing (you need some calories from somewhere to compare against).

If you dig into the study they had improvements in pretty much all markers of health and weight loss and there were no real differences compared to the protein intake group (that amount is so small and they were doing so much exercise it probably didn't matter). Sure maybe hypothetically if someone were to replicate this they may opt for protein, but the sucrose wasn't going to crush their livers and kidneys, sugar isn't that disastrous...

This study is more like a thought experiment to determine next steps and to compare more drastic approaches versus things like more moderate approaches and various medications (which they discuss in the text).
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Yes, I noticed those results. Regardless, there is no way I would ever advocate anyone doing that. Sugar is so inflammatory that I've made every effort to cut added sugar out of my diet (and have done the same thing with highly processed carbs). There are just too many studies that conclude a very strong correlation between the consumption of sugar (regardless of type) and highly processed foods, and IR, diabetes, endothelial issues, heart disease. inflammation, kidney issues, gut microbiome issues, etc.
 
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