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CLENVISCERATE the god of fat loss

dsade said:
Like a capsule? Bad idea. Capsules, especially something like clen, are mostly filler that won't dissolve. You would be better off finding liquid clen, or dissolving the contents in alcohol then mixing.
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If adding more powdered ingredients how would you go about dissolving them. Add more water? Till ingredients dissolve fully?
 
khan_krum said:
Then why smolder exists,whats the difference between the two?
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I had a lot of requests from people who could not handle the burn of OG Eviscerate, and were also looking to tighten up their skin. I created SMOLDER as an option for those who preferred an effective formula without the extensive burning.
 
dsade said:
I had a lot of requests from people who could not handle the burn of OG Eviscerate, and were also looking to tighten up their skin. I created SMOLDER as an option for those who preferred an effective formula without the extensive burning.
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would be nice if you removed the slimy substance ( think it's the triglyceride) in the carrier of both evi and abli; it sticks to the skin and I think is the cause of irritation since the slimy prevents the skin from breathing; not just me; a few users at the gym I visit reported the same

what is the triglyceride for anyway? it just sits on the surface of the skin

and add 5-AT to abli; that would be even nicer
 
BigGame84 said:
Any issues with using Clenviscerate while on a ph cycle?
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Keep your eye on BP, just in case (though it has not been experienced or reported) of systemic absorption.
 
BigGame84 said:
Thanks. Is there any advantage of applying this before workouts (I workout at night) or just in the morning is fine?
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On the abdominal area, it is actually detrimental to effectiveness to apply preworkout. You want at least 45 minutes to an hour of absorption.

For thinner skinned areas (chest, shoulders, arms) immediately preworkout is fine.
 
dsade said:
On the abdominal area, it is actually detrimental to effectiveness to apply preworkout. You want at least 45 minutes to an hour of absorption.

For thinner skinned areas (chest, shoulders, arms) immediately preworkout is fine.
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Thanks.

What is the best way to apply the E with liquid clen? Rub clen on skin first and then apply E? Or combine them in hand and apply?
 
That's very helpful info. So if I put it on my abs, or love handles, or buttocks and let it soak in for an hour, before doing an hour of low-to-medium cardio (not HIIT), and then showered, would all that be ok / optimal?
 
Yes.

You can mix the clen in your hand, or you can add it to the bottle and do a 20 minute shake weight workout with it.
 
I can't seem to find eviscerate, it's out of stock everywhere. Any idea on where I can purchase it? Or when it will be back in stock again?
 
Posting this for a friend:

Eviscerate + 40mcg liquid clen and rubbed on the abs ONCE

or

Eviscerate + 20mcg liquid clen and rubbed on the abs TWICE a day

or

Eviscerate + 40mcg liquid clen and rubbed on the abs TWICE.
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Lot of conflicting views, what say you guys?
 
with transdermals that include yohimbine hcl do you have to apply it before cardio to be effective? also do carbs negate the effects of transdermal yohimbine like how it does with oral?
 
Big Bump lol

I have read through this thread several times and am pretty confident I have my answer but I figured I would ask anyway to make sure. So as long as you do not add to much Clen to Eviscerate, is there any worry about cardio toxicity and enlarged heart? I understand some may be absorbed systematically but is that enough to produce the effects I mentioned?

Thanks.
 
If your worried about the mixing ration use oral clen and use the evicterate by itself for transdermal aspect.atleast if you use oral you know the ingested amout.
 
MuscleJ said:
If your worried about the mixing ration use oral clen and use the evicterate by itself for transdermal aspect.atleast if you use oral you know the ingested amout.
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I'm not worried about mixing it as I read how to measure it out and do it properly. I am just concerned with the overall damage clen may cause but am under the impression if used topically the damage should be non-existent.
 
Anyone have some insights on this? Would also like to hear from people who tried it topically and the results they had.
 
anthon88 said:
Anyone have some insights on this? Would also like to hear from people who tried it topically and the results they had.
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I just tried it after my last pct, it can get systematic if you dose your clen too high other than that its ok just have to be careful not rubbing that **** on your face and other areas, it burns like a mofo. It makes you sweat a lot in the area of application and that **** will stain your clothes too so don't use white shirts over it.
 
I use this all the time, with the clen added to the final bottle. As someone with a high clen sensitivity (especially to cramping) i get zero systemic sides using the Eviscerate carrier. Same goes with the Yohimbine content as well.
 
JPSwole said:
I just tried it after my last pct, it can get systematic if you dose your clen too high other than that its ok just have to be careful not rubbing that **** on your face and other areas, it burns like a mofo. It makes you sweat a lot in the area of application and that **** will stain your clothes too so don't use white shirts over it.
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Thanks for the reply. I've enjoyed Eviscerate in the past and was curious about the combination.
 
dsade said:
I use this all the time, with the clen added to the final bottle. As someone with a high clen sensitivity (especially to cramping) i get zero systemic sides using the Eviscerate carrier. Same goes with the Yohimbine content as well.
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Awesome, so in essence, there should be no concern about enlarged heart since it's not systematic?
 
As far as the carrier design and my experience, correct
 
dsade said:
I use this all the time, with the clen added to the final bottle. As someone with a high clen sensitivity (especially to cramping) i get zero systemic sides using the Eviscerate carrier. Same goes with the Yohimbine content as well.
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Since only a small percentage of clen is getting absorbed to a localized area, is there a need to cycle off the clenviscerate or can you go a few weeks straight.
 
tstak said:
Since only a small percentage of clen is getting absorbed to a localized area, is there a need to cycle off the clenviscerate or can you go a few weeks straight.
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You have that backwards. The carrier is designed to deliver the actives, and additions, locally. You will notice tolerance in the area over the same timeframe as systemic administration, though.
 
dsade said:
You have that backwards. The carrier is designed to deliver the actives, and additions, locally. You will notice tolerance in the area over the same timeframe as systemic administration, though.
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Thanks for the clarification. Im quite excited to finally get use eviscerate, my first time using an evomuse product..

I've read through all 31 pages as well as searched every clenviscerate thread on the net but couldnt find an answer on stacking it with ec stack.

40mcg + eviscerate - 2 times daily
ec stack - 2 times daily

Do you see anything alarming with this dosage scheme?

~ 200lbs / diet in check
 
It was mentioned that this works because clen's MW is <300, but the site I'm looking at for liquid clen lists the MW @ 313.65. Am I looking at something different or is clen's MW > 300?
 
Clen base shows a MW of 277. Clen HCl shows a MW of 313. Either will still work.
 
I've decided to go with the one week on / one week off protocol for Clenviscerate. Have a few questions about stacking systemic fat burners with it though.

I have PES Norcodrene, Shift, Alpha T2, Rauwolscine on hand for stim-based burners

Lipomorph, Forskolin 95, TTA for non-stim

Reduce XT, Inhibit-E, Formeron for cortisol/estrogen, though I don't really see a need for these in my cut, yet. Maybe at the end just to expedite dropping water from the Clen and TTA

Would Clenviscerate with Shift + Norco be over-doing beta agonism? I'll be using the Lipomorph, F95, TTA as well and perhaps the Rauwolscine.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
i am the father of clenviscerate ... so take this as 100% gospel.... 313.65 M.Weight will work with the epidermal transport VERY well
 
becasue the CLEN is not being processed through digestion...it has shown to be free of sides. I would still stack it with tuarine to be safe.
 
For those who have used this, how much "water weight" locally at the site of administration and how long until it subsides after discontinuation from use?
 
IRONPOPE said:
becasue the CLEN is not being processed through digestion...it has shown to be free of sides. I would still stack it with tuarine to be safe.
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Iron, great comments throughout this thread. Very fascinating info. I didn't notice too many comments about using this for gyno. Most seem to be focused on the abdominals.

Are there any differences in nipple versus abdominal tissue that would preclude its efficacy a gyno treatment?

Thanks in advance.
 
First day of Clenviscerate and everything is as reported in this thread. First application made abdominal area warmer than usual during LISS cardio and started to burn mildly post-cardio; second application burned slightly right away.

Did 20mcg x2 today and stacked first application with 2x PES Shift, 2x PES Norcodrene, 6mg rauwolscine, 100mg total forskolin-95 before fasted LISS. No noticeable sides from the Clenviscerate other than the aforementioned burning.
 
yes ... looks like everything is going like it should.. I know i have terrible sides with CLEN taking orally....cramps and shakes and bp spikes... with the topical Clenviscerate version... none of that
 
just starting this up with clenv bff. cant handle that cap content in the others. Tried it once got all over my D*** in the shower.... never again lol.
 
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