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CLENVISCERATE the god of fat loss

just use a syringe if you have the disposable kind to measure out the right fraction of a ml you need to use. pretty accurate. its how i measured my hcg.
 
All the answers are already here. Just go back and read through the pages.

I don't know how many times I go back through, for referencing.
 
jsierra85 said:
My Enviscerate just came in yesterday along with Slim XT......i managed to find liquid clen which i placed the order today...Clen 30mL 200mcg/mL to be specific...im very excited to start this stack... i obviously will start the slim xt along with enviscerate tommorow ....cant wait and will throw in the clen as soon as it gets in...most likely mid week....if someone could just help me figure out how to apply clen ..that would be great...through pm or even on this thread....thanx
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yeah ... read through this thread... i am sure you will find the answers... and there is really no absolute answer as this is all cutting edge cutting. as i said before... test your tolerances and adjust as needed.

and of course enjoy unreal shredding
 
my next question for you experts is :

if i am on a low low carb, high fat diet, using clenvis, raspberry ketones, cla, and GTE, will i have too many free fatty acids in my bloodstream for my body to get rid of all of it?

will taking 4g of ALCAR and doing 30 minutes of cardio a day with lifting 5 days a week be enough?

i would hate to just have this crap reabsorb is thats possible......even taking in low cals ( 1700 or so a day )
 
anyone who tries it, make sure you are in a position to take a cold shower your first time. ive been using it for a while... i was doing fries at my work (5 guys) and i sweated up a storm. the burning got so intense i was about to die. and with this, it seems like the more u sweat, the more it works, and then u sweat even more. its like a cycle. you will also get really energized. i felt like i was on crack. i had so much energy. great stuff. i honestly think it has a localized effect as well as a less focused full body effect. my legs are more defined now. the most defined they've been in a longggg time. i can only blame this :)
 
tnubs said:
anyone who tries it, make sure you are in a position to take a cold shower your first time. ive been using it for a while... i was doing fries at my work (5 guys) and i sweated up a storm. the burning got so intense i was about to die. and with this, it seems like the more u sweat, the more it works, and then u sweat even more. its like a cycle. you will also get really energized. i felt like i was on crack. i had so much energy. great stuff. i honestly think it has a localized effect as well as a less focused full body effect. my legs are more defined now. the most defined they've been in a longggg time. i can only blame this :)
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You know whats funny... u may cool down and forget about its on u...then like 4 hours later.. u start doing something and the HEAT kicks back in...

the time i put way too much CLEN.... i was driving home from work and it literally felt like i had a heating pad around my waist on maximum under my shirt.... i was literally scanning for a pool or open hydrant.

i feel naked with no clenviscerate on...
 
soontobbeast said:
my next question for you experts is :

if i am on a low low carb, high fat diet, using clenvis, raspberry ketones, cla, and GTE, will i have too many free fatty acids in my bloodstream for my body to get rid of all of it?

will taking 4g of ALCAR and doing 30 minutes of cardio a day with lifting 5 days a week be enough?

i would hate to just have this crap reabsorb is thats possible......even taking in low cals ( 1700 or so a day )
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u could add SLIM XT and you will struggle to eat a 1000 calories a day...and don't forget EVIS has lCar in it as well...
 
dsade said:
You WANT freed fatty acids to be used as an every source during cardio, otherwise they will float around for a while, then be redeposited BACK into fat cells (reesterified).
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this has been a question i've kept thinking about but don't believe i've asked. If you had abnormal fat distribution due to having been seriously obese and then gotten down to more normal bf levels, would eviscerate used while at maintenance cals on the areas with higher levels of bf tend to cause it to get redistributed back to normal all over? to make a less run on sentence, if you carried more bodyfat on lower back than anywhere else, would eviscerate help mobilize that, and then your body would tend to redeposit the surplus fatty acids more evenly over the whole body?
 
soontobbeast said:
my next question for you experts is :

if i am on a low low carb, high fat diet, using clenvis, raspberry ketones, cla, and GTE, will i have too many free fatty acids in my bloodstream for my body to get rid of all of it?

will taking 4g of ALCAR and doing 30 minutes of cardio a day with lifting 5 days a week be enough?

i would hate to just have this crap reabsorb is thats possible......even taking in low cals ( 1700 or so a day )
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if the cals you take in are well spread over the day with no meals being excessively large then you should be fine. This is one of the times where the 6 meals a day comes in handy.
 
EasyEJL said:
this has been a question i've kept thinking about but don't believe i've asked. If you had abnormal fat distribution due to having been seriously obese and then gotten down to more normal bf levels, would eviscerate used while at maintenance cals on the areas with higher levels of bf tend to cause it to get redistributed back to normal all over? to make a less run on sentence, if you carried more bodyfat on lower back than anywhere else, would eviscerate help mobilize that, and then your body would tend to redeposit the surplus fatty acids more evenly over the whole body?
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tough question, really...each "area" has problems due to a chemical reason. Chest and hip fat in men usually is estrogen-based. VAT is obviously cortisol mediated, standard stomach fat has been tied to both insulin and adrenergic control.

Upper back fat is honestly a tough one, and intriguingly where I hold most of my fat as well.

I think I will look into it more.

To answer your question, I would say "somewhat, yes".
 
Good god. I just got my clen and evis. a few minutes ago. That was some serious ass shipping! I just ordered it a couple days ago. Damn that was fast. I feel like a kid in a candy store right now I'm so fired up to try it.
 
dsade said:
tough question, really...each "area" has problems due to a chemical reason. Chest and hip fat in men usually is estrogen-based. VAT is obviously cortisol mediated, standard stomach fat has been tied to both insulin and adrenergic control.

Upper back fat is honestly a tough one, and intriguingly where I hold most of my fat as well.

I think I will look into it more.

To answer your question, I would say "somewhat, yes".
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Part of what I wonder is if whether although chest + hip fat accumulates under high estrogen, it doesn't by default disappear if the estrogen issue is fixed. So although its no longer particularly accumulating there faster, its not necessarily leaving the building like elvis either. Also, I guess part of it was thinking about how at high enough bf levels you start to see fat cells not just grow but actually multiply, which I guess during fat loss can still leave disproportionate fat in areas that saw higher amounts of new cells added maybe? dunno, just thinking out loud. my (fl)abs look better than ever though.
 
EasyEJL said:
Part of what I wonder is if whether although chest + hip fat accumulates under high estrogen, it doesn't by default disappear if the estrogen issue is fixed. So although its no longer particularly accumulating there faster, its not necessarily leaving the building like elvis either. Also, I guess part of it was thinking about how at high enough bf levels you start to see fat cells not just grow but actually multiply, which I guess during fat loss can still leave disproportionate fat in areas that saw higher amounts of new cells added maybe? dunno, just thinking out loud. my (fl)abs look better than ever though.
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You have to competing goals...

Your body's goal is to maintain, and even increase, fat storage (fat = survival). While it won't disappear by default, it will reduce the active deposition of fat preferentially.
 
By the way, warn your wife if you make a new bottle of Clenviscerate, so she doesn't add more into her palm.

Sorry, babydoll.
 
Well, i just applied my first layer of eviscerate ....i got the new bottle actually....but the pump still sucks lol....i basically just kept pumping and little squirts were coming out so im not sure whats the rite amount for a full pump but o well im just applying enough to get around my stomach/lower back area....about to do some cardio plus i took my first dose of slim xt which was 2 capsules....mite as well keep my updates here since this is were everything goes down...waiting on my clen to arrive .....
 
The new bottles arrive tomorrow, and stock will be replaced at Nutra by Thurday. These new pumps and bottles are beefy, plenty strong enough to stand up to the increased viscosity of the Eviscerate.
 
well i just got back from my cardio session outside which is like 90 degrees outside...i think i might of applied a little to much since i feel a burning sensation on were i applied it....it feels like i have sun burn lol....imma lower the dosage later on before i go to the gym....but i felt it once i started sweating intensely...i got home and ran rite into a cold shower....felt great lol
 
TheEigthDwarf said:
Dsade,

What has been your progress so far on ClenE?
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I'm back to lean bulking, since our Olympia plans fell through, and it's keeping me lean while I gain lean mass.
 
crazyfool405 said:
What happens if u add adex to the mix? Can this possibly help?
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I've never used it transdermally, but if the molecular weight is small enough it should be pretty effective on chest fat.
 
Note... I would run Rasberry Ketones orally and well as 4 grams of ALCAR with Clenviscerate. DCP looks to stack well. ECA i dunno about that
 
IRONPOPE said:
Note... I would run Rasberry Ketones orally and well as 4 grams of ALCAR with Clenviscerate. DCP looks to stack well. ECA i dunno about that
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I read that as 4 grams of Raspberry Ketones and almost peed myself.

/can you say heartburn?
 
Well u would need much much less then the oral dose plus the MW is like 294. Letro MW is less then that. So it could work. What about possible rebound from it? Is there a rebounce from the alpha 2 antagonoism of yohimbine hcl?
 
Hmm. I just threw on the mix. Used 1 pump evis with 20 mcg clen on one side and another pump/20 mcg on the other. I think I should have used another pump of evis for each side. I suppose if I'm on fire come 6ish (when I start spin) then I guess I know I got it right. You guys just cup it, mix, then rub? I was dumb and pumped into my fingers (didn't spill but still).
 
TheEigthDwarf said:
Hmm. I just threw on the mix. Used 1 pump evis with 20 mcg clen on one side and another pump/20 mcg on the other. I think I should have used another pump of evis for each side. I suppose if I'm on fire come 6ish (when I start spin) then I guess I know I got it right. You guys just cup it, mix, then rub? I was dumb and pumped into my fingers (didn't spill but still).
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i am a cup n rub guy. when u use to much... you will know...
 
I am def doing a low dosage of clen when it arrives ...the enviscrate isnt a joke either....i was running and yea its 90 degrees outside....but were i applied it .. i felt like a tingle along with sunburn on that spot...i literally ran in the cold shower when i got in ...like it was on fire no joke lol
 
You will definitely feel it when you start your spin. Not at first, but after the pores get a chance to open up and you start sweating, you will know it.
 
jrw said:
You will definitely feel it when you start your spin. Not at first, but after the pores get a chance to open up and you start sweating, you will know it.
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thats exaclty what happen....when i start to heavy sweat..it was like a switch just went on and i was on fire....felt good but at the same time i was telling myself imma apply a little less later on...lol seriously
 
jsierra85 said:
thats exaclty what happen....when i start to heavy sweat..it was like a switch just went on and i was on fire....felt good but at the same time i was telling myself imma apply a little less later on...lol seriously
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yeah it should BURN... but no so bad that u will push an old lady to the ground to dive in her pool.

CLEN will extrapolate the fire effect if u use to much...
 
Hmm. Not sure what I did wrong then. I measured out 40 mcg too. I noticed when I got to the gym (an hour 15 post application) my gullet was a little....moist? Noticed all around I was warmer than I expected to be. Was sweating more than usual, which is saying a lot for me. No burn though. When I finished and got in my car, it did feel like my obliques had a heating pad on each side, but no burn. Not even remotely uncomfortable.
 
so have we nailed it down whether it would be good to use ECA with this.....i understand clen and eca use the same pathways typically, but since the ECA would have systemic effects, shouldnt it not effect this?
 
TheEigthDwarf said:
Hmm. Not sure what I did wrong then. I measured out 40 mcg too. I noticed when I got to the gym (an hour 15 post application) my gullet was a little....moist? Noticed all around I was warmer than I expected to be. Was sweating more than usual, which is saying a lot for me. No burn though. When I finished and got in my car, it did feel like my obliques had a heating pad on each side, but no burn. Not even remotely uncomfortable.
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up your dosage a tad on the evis and the clen... 50 MCG... people have different tolerances to this stuff....
 
Added a little more evis this morning, same dosage clen. I def. notice an overall elevated body temp within minutes of applying this. If I don't feel any different come this afternoon, I'll be bump it up to 50 mcg before I head to the gym at the end of the day.

I tell you though, I must have been sweating more than usual, it looked it, but I felt horrible after I got home and cleaned up. I'm starting to wonder if I was dehydrated a little and I drink a gallon of water a day on top of my container for when I spin. I didn't even want to eat last night. I basically cleaned up, did some things and went to bed around 9. Not normal for me. Anyone else have this problem?
 
Ok. Day 2. 40 mcg clen in the morning, 60 mcg clen with this afternoons application. Overall body temp is up, otherwise, same warm heating pad feeling on obliques again. No discomfort. I'm thinking of 60 mcg in the morning and if I feel ok, will goto 80 in the afternoon.

BTW, the eviserate bottle sucks. I know it's been mentioned already, the pump doesn't work so well. I've used it 3 times now and it basically choked, puked and died on the 3rd use today. It was leaking from the top and not coming out the pump :(. I had a small travel size bottle at home that I just transferred a good amount to. Should work just as well if anyone else has similar problems. I know dsade said the new bottle design was done, I probably got part of the last batch of old. DOH!
 
The new bottles are going out tomorrow.

They have a nice overcap as well, so they will be gym bag safe. I had a couple of accidents myself - the worst timing in the world, a combination of Eviscerate AND a small tub of Xtend leaked same day.

It's was not a pleasant find.
 
since even using this topically raises body temperature, wouldnt it make sense it raises blood pressure as well? has anyone been checking their blood pressure while on this?
 
soontobbeast said:
since even using this topically raises body temperature, wouldnt it make sense it raises blood pressure as well? has anyone been checking their blood pressure while on this?
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I would be the first to know, it does NOT raise bp since it does not touch the internals, I will say clen gives some strange water rentention even while on AI.
 
andrew732 said:
I would be the first to know, it does NOT raise bp since it does not touch the internals, I will say clen gives some strange water rentention even while on AI.
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water retention? hmm. i feel like i lose water in that area. maybe ill lose more when i stop taking it for a while then?
 
so how long have yall been on this? how much fat/weight have you lost?

im hoping i can be shredded in 6 weeks ( trying to lose 15-20lbs) eating 1500cals
 
soontobbeast said:
so how long have yall been on this? how much fat/weight have you lost?

im hoping i can be shredded in 6 weeks ( trying to lose 15-20lbs) eating 1500cals
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Well I am already lean but I wanted to see how it would work in terms of localized fat destruction, I wanted to get rid of a small amount of fat in my hip area, now its GONE, that is only in 2 weeks, I am around 5%bf, so again I can not give you a fair evaluation but it worked for me best prebed and during workouts.
 
You thin guys aren't a good litmus test damn it. lol. Fat bastards like myself are. But I'm only on day 2 (or 4th application to this point). We need more concrete data/measurments from you guys that have used this and seen results. What was everyone's average clen dosage per application and how long before they started seeing results? I'm on my second application (started at 40) of 60 mcg clen and given how I feel right now (an hour after application) I will probably goto 80 mcg's this afternoon. Warm around the gullet, but nothing unbearable to deal with. I think the overall body temp rise is more annoying to me than anything.
 
Ok. 80 mcg at 3pm. Gullet was def. more on fire this time, but nothing uncontrolable. I 've noticed both days now that my over all body temp tends to be noticably higher with the mornings application vs. the afternoon. Any have any reason for that or experience with it? Not a real complaint since that is more annoying than the gullet burn. Just a curiosity question.
 
TheEigthDwarf said:
Ok. 80 mcg at 3pm. Gullet was def. more on fire this time, but nothing uncontrolable. I 've noticed both days now that my over all body temp tends to be noticably higher with the mornings application vs. the afternoon. Any have any reason for that or experience with it? Not a real complaint since that is more annoying than the gullet burn. Just a curiosity question.
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Are you eating carbs in the morning, rather than the afternoon?
 
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