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Clen/VAR log continued

Rodja said:
Unless you're competing, it's not the home stretch. Losing BF takes time and doesn't happen overnight. BTW, I feel really sorry for your beta receptors. How is clen not a stimulant?
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I didnt take it until after WO so no stims pre WO

and im taking benedryl 100mg a night

Its 13 weeks of strict clean dieting and cardio and im bridging into a Test cycle in the next couple of week so its the home stretch in that respect
 
edwitt said:
I didnt take it until after WO so no stims pre WO

and im taking benedryl 100mg a night
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Dude, you're mixing so much crap that your body is probably in WTF mode. The benardyl is not a miracle; it will help your receptors, but not spare them from damage from clen. Plus, 240mcg of clen is a monster dose and you're already aware of the T 1/2 of clen.

Your entire approach to dieting is completely off. You should use the drugs to supplement your training and eating. Instead, you're using them as the foundation of your fat loss. Clen, or any cutting agent for that matter, is not a miracle and needs to be used appropriately. Pay close attention to the word appropriately.
 
Rodja said:
Unless you're competing, it's not the home stretch. Losing BF takes time and doesn't happen overnight. BTW, I feel really sorry for your beta receptors. How is clen not a stimulant?
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i think im being accused of a quick fix here? THis has been a long hard 16 month straight with set goals and ive pretty much achieved all of them with blood sweat and tears. It is a journey not a race, i get that but this leg of the journey is coming to a conclusion, time for the next chapter and new goals
 
edwitt said:
i think im being accused of a quick fix here? THis has been a long hard 16 month straight with set goals and ive pretty much achieved all of them with blood sweat and tears. It is a journey not a race, i get that but this leg of the journey is coming to a conclusion, time for the next chapter and new goals
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Considering your radical changes to your body, I'd say you're an extremist.
 
Rodja said:
Remember, even on AAS, your goal should be 2 lbs of fat loss per week at the most.
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I realise that, I started out 232lb on this leg of my cut this is day 33 -9lb = 1.91lb per week :)

Right on track
 
edwitt said:
I realise that, I started out 232lb on this leg of my cut this is day 33 -9lb = 1.91lb per week :)

Right on track
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In theory, but remember that this means that you're roughly 7000kcals under maintenance to lose this much. After a few weeks of this, your thyroid starts to take a major hit and your BMR slows down. Once this happens, a cascade of nastiness occurs and LBM is lost. You really should extend this cut out to roughly the time of your bulk.

When you put on that much mass, and a lot of it was not good, maybe half of it is muscle. Your bulk was very, very dirty and I'd be surprised if you gained maybe 30 lbs of muscle out of it. Also, and I cannot stress this enough, it takes time for the muscle to mature. I weigh roughly as much now as I did 5 years ago, but the look and shape of my muscles is completely different because of muscle maturity.
 
Rodja said:
Also, and I cannot stress this enough, it takes time for the muscle to mature. I weigh roughly as much now as I did 5 years ago, but the look and shape of my muscles is completely different because of muscle maturity.
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this is the truth. im 10lbs heavier than i was 2 years ago but i look like a whole new person.

its not about adding weight, but adding lean muscle and allowing it to take shape and bring out definition
 
Rodja said:
In theory, but remember that this means that you're roughly 7000kcals under maintenance to lose this much. After a few weeks of this, your thyroid starts to take a major hit and your BMR slows down. Once this happens, a cascade of nastiness occurs and LBM is lost. You really should extend this cut out to roughly the time of your bulk.

When you put on that much mass, and a lot of it was not good, maybe half of it is muscle. Your bulk was very, very dirty and I'd be surprised if you gained maybe 30 lbs of muscle out of it. Also, and I cannot stress this enough, it takes time for the muscle to mature. I weigh roughly as much now as I did 5 years ago, but the look and shape of my muscles is completely different because of muscle maturity.
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has to have been more than 30lb @ 232lb down from my 255lb i was the same BF% as i started @ 175 and 15%. Up until recently trying Ketosis i didnt adjust my cals kept them roughly the same but increased cardio and i have been cycling my carbs and the stims.

Anyway i am planning to start tapering down the stims and prepare for my cycle. i Want to be strong and mentally prepared for it.

Overall very happy with the results to date and i appreciate your concern and take note, i cut the GFJ
 
Whatever i add from here on out will be quality LBM, i will not allow myself to go above 12% in the future that is done with
 
Stay tuned.. Ill keep updating pictures, looking pretty good with that extra 9lbs gone. Give me another 6 months. Goal this year is to add 20lb LBM whilst recomping

Reserving this space :)
 
calipers by a trainer buddy @ gym

Not 100% accurate i know but good enough, ill have to let my pictures do the talking for me as I realise im not going to win any arguments with you
 
Rodja,

I just want to set the record straight

I have read many of your threads and responses, I have read them all thoroughly and i find that everything you say always has merit. There is rarely a time that i dont learn something new from your comments and posts.

I realise i have taken somewhat of a more radical approach than you approve of but is with the likes of members like yourself that i have been able to progress safely (relatively) , all be it my own somewhat frantic pace.

So i would just like to say thanks for your well thought out and intelligent responses, I will endeavor to reach your same level of knowlege in time.
 
edwitt said:
Stay tuned.. Ill keep updating pictures, looking pretty good with that extra 9lbs gone. Give me another 6 months. Goal this year is to add 20lb LBM whilst recomping

Reserving this space :)
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Why not just gain 50lb of muscle while losing 10lb of fat this year?
 
edwitt said:
calipers by a trainer buddy @ gym

Not 100% accurate i know but good enough, ill have to let my pictures do the talking for me as I realise im not going to win any arguments with you
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There is a major flaw in calipers: it does not account for subQ fat and I call BS on the 15%.
 
yea.. I realise that... I dont hold to much it that BS anyway, the mirror is my best tool in that respect.

It says good job so far, must work harder and listen to Rodja more often he knows his stuff :)
 
Day 34
Day 13 VAR

Weight Next weigh in Friday
ECA 50mg
Clen 240mcg
VAR 100mg

Did chest this morning and definitely the first sign of increased strenghth, made sure i had my fix of stims and really had great focus and strength

Great bench routine

Flat Bench
225 2 X 8 90secs slow perfect form
275 1 X 5 2 mins
295 1 X 5 2 mins
305 1 X 5 3 mins
315 1 X 5 3 mins
315 1 X 5 3 mins
315 1 X 5 3mins
295 1 X 6 2 mins
285 1 X F Failure @ 6
285 1 X F Failure @ 6
225 1 X F Failure @ 17

Managed 3 sets of 5 @ 315 thats a first. Had that feeling of not wanting to leave the gym

So far overall experience with the VAR very positive
 
WhatsaRoid? said:
I can honestly say I love almost every thread edwitt has made. Hey no matter whatever choices you make in your life of working out we will all be here with you. Keep up the logging and exercising good buddy.
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I agree, as much as he pushes himself past the point of reason with somethings, his logs have been fun to follow and keep me checking on a daily basis. Thanks edwitt.
 
Day 35
Day 14 VAR

Weight Next weigh in Friday
ECA 50mg
Clen 240mcg
VAR 100mg

Got shoulders and biceps this morning, great pumps and arms feeling very full. Really looking fwd to seeing what 2 more weeks of VAR is going to do now that there are signs of increased strength.

Well yesterday i finally pulled the trigger an put my order in for my inj cycle, Ive made all the final tweaks and will post it up shortly. Estimated kick off May 1st so another 2-3 week of VAR to prime myself for the main event. I will drop the VAR when the epi/tren oral starts to kicks in, most likely at about day 10 of the inj cycle.

We shall name it Operation "GET SWOLE"


Poolside tomorrow at the Loews Santa Monica oh yea

:)
 
Operation "GET SWOLE"

VAR bridge @100mg currently in progress day 14 Estimated kick off May 1st

Weeks 1 – 16 : Test E 500mg…..250mg Mon / Thur
FRONT LOAD 750 FOR TWO WEEK..
Weeks 1 – 4 : Oral Epi/tren 30mg/90mg
Weeks 12 -18 Anavar 100mg PRE TRAINING. MAKES MORE DIFFERENCE ON BLOOD SERUM
Weeks 1 – 18 : HCG 300IUS EVERY 5TH DAY. ON THE 8TH WEEK USE ONE SHOT OF 1500IUS TO CAUSE LEYDIG CELLS TO WAKE UP.
Weeks 18-22 PCT.. ON TENTH DAY WHEN ENANTHATE KICKS OUT.. 20MG NOLVA.. PROVIRON AT 100MG
Weeks 1-18 Proviron 50mg/ BEFORE BED. HAS BETTER EFFECT DURING SLEEP.

AI on hand Aromasin
 
I am sitting @ the Loews in Santa Monica and I'm just gonna have to reserve this space for photo to be taken later on Muscle Beach :)
 
edwitt said:
I am sitting @ the Loews in Santa Monica and I'm just gonna have to reserve this space for photo to be taken later on Muscle Beach :)
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Sounds like mad fun brosef. Don't get an optical cavity from staring at all that eye-candy!!! :boobies:

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thundergod said:
Sounds like mad fun brosef. Don't get an optical cavity from staring at all that eye-candy!!! :boobies:

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Lol. Went to a crazy hollywood party last night ridiculous eye candy :) ill chuck a picture up in ur thread next week
 
Day 35
Day 14 VAR

Weight
VAR 100mg

Update from yest. Reporting in from LA via my phone so ill keep it brief.

Ran out of Clen so done with that @ day 35 so I decided to drop the ECA and give my fried receptors some time to recover from the beat down I have given them. Only stims right now coffee. Will give full Clen review next week whrn I get back but overall good experience.

I have some Icyplex on the way iso I am gonna give recepors 2 week break then one week of icyplex, you may have to google that one. Will give profile of that next week also.

Yest hit gym @ hotel which is awesome did bis/tris VAR really kicking in, pumps were ridiculous to the point of being painful. Arms felt so full and hard, great feeling. No cardio to tired from travel

Today gonna take a stroll down to Venice beach and check out muscle beach after that should be pretty pumped and intend to get a killer leg routine in. Run on the beach later. Poolside for reat of the day ;)

Pics on the way, girly pics that is :)
 
Day 36
Day 15 VAR

Weight
VAR 100mg

Still in LA but like i said hotel has good gym. Did legs, 40mins of squats, leg presses etc and 2 hour walk along Venice Beach

Definitely reaping the rewards of my hardwork out here. Having an absolute blast. Diet has been bur i fell down hard today :), had 1/2lb burger with bacon it was delish and then had Tapas @ SLS in Beverley Hills for dinner but man was it good or what :)
 
Day 37
Day 16 VAR

Weight
VAR 100mg

Workout consisted of some light back work and no cardio, diet was back on track today. Still eating out but lots of fish and whey protein to sup. One more day here then when i back to NY will be ready to tear it up. Need to get primed and ready for upcoming cycle
 
I have to say that your drug choices are crazy, but having said that, I am totally addicted to reading your progress! Keep smashing records and defying genetics man!
 
Day 38
Day 17 VAR

Weight
VAR 100mg

Ok its 6.45am Monday morning in LA and i have redeye back to NY 9.30pm gonna try and get some good cardio in today.

I most likely have some packages that arrived over weekend. Im guessing everything arrives by Friday at the latest so i need to see where i am in terms of 1RM. Next WO shud be chest, im feeling good and relaxed and ready for this cycle to commence.

Will be taking some pictures this week to commence this new cycle and to mark the end of this leg of the journey

LA has been conquered
 
edwitt said:
Day 38
Day 17 VAR

Weight
VAR 100mg

Ok its 6.45am Monday morning in LA and i have redeye back to NY 9.30pm gonna try and get some good cardio in today.

I most likely have some packages that arrived over weekend. Im guessing everything arrives by Friday at the latest so i need to see where i am in terms of 1RM. Next WO shud be chest, im feeling good and relaxed and ready for this cycle to commence.

Will be taking some pictures this week to commence this new cycle and to mark the end of this leg of the journey

LA has been conquered
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40 minute trap attack now heading to LAX airport and home ;)
 
Day 39
Day 18 VAR

Weight
VAR 100mg

Day of rest long trip

Monday morning and back in the Big Apple, lets go and see what the mailman has for me. Better do a weigh in and see what damage 4 days in LA has done :)
 
Day 39
Day 18 VAR

Weight
VAR 100mg

Day of rest long trip

Monday morning and back in the Big Apple, lets go and see what the mailman has for me. Better do a weigh in and see what damage 4 days in LA has done :)
 
Day 40
Day 19 VAR

Weight NC
VAR 100mg

Well all my gear arrived over the weekend so i guess ill take some pictures end this chapter and start anoth with a new thread/log

Weigh in, review, pictures and link to new thread forthcoming. I think ill go with my first pin tomorow morning, just picked up last of my support sups

Operation Get Swole is a go :)
 
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