CJC 1295 DAC / MK 677 13 weeks & more!!

[Joedoubledose]

I feel like the mk has given me a libido boost lol

 

[Cgkone]

I feel like the mk has given me a libido boost lol

What else are you taking

 

[Joedoubledose]

What else are you taking

Just mk and Epicurus our epicatechin product .

 

[Dma378]

Things are starting to take off. Took the weekend off from the MK, but feel the bloat was starting to subside before the weekend though. But definitely seeing some changes in the mirror. Looking a bit more blocky and full. Muscle groups showing signs of separation, similar to being on an AAS cycle.

Weight is 216 waking. That is 3lbs. up in about 10 days. Last few nights the good sleep has returned, so feeling rested and refreshed for the training week!!

Calories have been consistently landing around 3700-3800 and feel like distribution is about to start taking off as well.

 

[AllTheGainz]

Do you think you'll have to up your cal as you continue or do you think that you won't gain enough for it to really impact the overall cycle?

 

[Dma378]

Do you think you'll have to up your cal as you continue or do you think that you won't gain enough for it to really impact the overall cycle?

I'm thinking that surplus should consistently make changes over the course of the cycle without having to up them further.

That's a 500 surplus.

Now when I start the Dbol and EQ in October I will probably up another few hundred. I was going to wait until November to start that, but I want to still be running the CJC when I do without having to grab several more weeks worth. So just brought my start date in a month.

 

[Brandinooooo]

Late but in.

 

[Dma378]

The lethargy is definitely legit. Didn't seem to hit as hard on the weekend as I was busy both days. But sitting at my desk at work, a few days last week and again today, I get really tired for a couple hours. So I just went for a little 45 minute nap in the john and woke up with tingling hands. But also tingling feet for sitting on the toilet that long LOL. Pants up of course.

 

[Brandinooooo]

The lethargy is definitely legit. Didn't seem to hit as hard on the weekend as I was busy both days. But sitting at my desk at work, a few days last week and again today, I get really tired for a couple hours. So I just went for a little 45 minute nap in the john and woke up with tingling hands. But also tingling feet for sitting on the toilet that long LOL. Pants up of course.

Lol. I'm surprised you could stand after sitting on the toilet that long.

 

[Dma378]

Lol. I'm surprised you could stand after sitting on the toilet that long.

Had to straighten them out and let a little blood get back down there before I tried!!

 

[AllTheGainz]

Had to straighten them out and let a little blood get back down there before I tried!!

Hahaha your boss was probably thinking you went to the gym again.

 

[Brandinooooo]

Hahaha

 

[booneman77]

The lethargy is definitely legit. Didn't seem to hit as hard on the weekend as I was busy both days. But sitting at my desk at work, a few days last week and again today, I get really tired for a couple hours. So I just went for a little 45 minute nap in the john and woke up with tingling hands. But also tingling feet for sitting on the toilet that long LOL. Pants up of course.

Used to do this in my intern days after long nights of boozing and womanizing haha... wake up with numb feet and ahve to take another 10min to warm up before standing up haha

 

[Smont]

Same here in my early 20,s. Would get a clean roll of tp and pin it between my head and the stall wall lol

 

[Dma378]

Same here in my early 20,s. Would get a clean roll of tp and pin it between my head and the stall wall lol

I use the handicap stall with the bar, put arm on that, use shoulder as pillow

I would be lying if I said I haven't done this before...100 times

 

[Smont]

I feel like so much less of a loser now knowing that everyone else does this to lol

 

[booneman77]

I feel like so much less of a loser now knowing that everyone else does this to lol

this is how adults make gainz... still gotta show up to work, but need that rest to recover hahaha

 

[Dma378]

Had to go in to work early this morning to train the night shift on some stuff, which meant no gym. But left early to get it in right in the middle of the usual "lethargy hour". Nothing a double scoop of PWO couldn't fix. Strength up a bit on Squats. 315 x 4 felt tough last week barely parallel. Today got 315 x 5 definitely deeper. And threw on 325 for 4 x 2 sets.

Definitely holding some water today as the separations in my upper arms are not nearly as apparent and when I changed my socks before starting workout, my work socks had left deep indentations in my calves that lasted for like an hour.

Sleep seems to have gotten consistently better, whereas it was hit and miss the first week. About 5 night in a row has been restful deep sleep.

 

[AllTheGainz]

Nice job on the strength. Do you feel bloated at all or just in general feel fuller?

 

[Dma378]

Nice job on the strength. Do you feel bloated at all or just in general feel fuller?

It's weird. Some days I feel it in my neck and belly, but don't see it. Today I don't feel it, but definitely see it in the mirror LOL

 

[Brandinooooo]

Lol. Have you guys thought about taking water pills for bloat? Not sure if it would help like it does for regular bloating. Also, with the IGF's, do you pin them or am I just slow?

 

[rtmilburn]

Lol. Have you guys thought about taking water pills for bloat? Not sure if it would help like it does for regular bloating. Also, with the IGF's, do you pin them or am I just slow?

Definitely pin igf

 

[Brandinooooo]

Definitely pin igf

Gotcha.

 

[AllTheGainz]

It's weird. Some days I feel it in my neck and belly, but don't see it. Today I don't feel it, but definitely see it in the mirror LOL

That's weird, is it comparable to creatine mono bloat where it's all over?

 

[Cgkone]

For me mk677 is more of a stuffed my face bloat.
IMO much different than creatine

 

[Dma378]

Lol. Have you guys thought about taking water pills for bloat? Not sure if it would help like it does for regular bloating. Also, with the IGF's, do you pin them or am I just slow?

Yes, I'm pinning the CJC.

Haven't considered taking a water pill. I take enough stuff as it is LOL. And it's not enough of a concern for me honestly.

 

[Dma378]

That's weird, is it comparable to creatine mono bloat where it's all over?

I don't get bloated from creatine mono. By all rights it shouldn't bloat anybody. Kind of an old myth. The water retention from creatine is intracellular of the muscles. Not subq.

For me mk677 is more of a stuffed my face bloat.
IMO much different than creatine

There was a couple days last week that this was me. But have since been keeping diet in check, carbs moderate and sodium the best I can in a surplus. That bloat is definitely a miserable feeling. Like I said, today I don't feel it, can just see it.

 

[Smont]

I don't get bloated from creatine mono. By all rights it shouldn't bloat anybody. Kind of an old myth. The water retention from creatine is intracellular of the muscles. Not subq.



Definitely a myth.

 

[Smont]

Wonder why when I quoted u it didn't separate it from my words?

 

[Sparkss]

Wonder why when I quoted u it didn't separate it from my words?

Missing rhe end [/QUOTE] block

 

[The_Old_Guy]

In.

What do you call a fish with no eye's? A Fshhhhhhhh. (Figured I should write *something*).

 

[Dma378]

In.

What do you call a fish with no eye's? A Fshhhhhhhh. (Figured I should write *something*).

A much better intro than just "In" LOL. Welcome man

 

[Dma378]

Will post labs as soon as I figure out how to upload them as a picture and crop my info out.

 

[The_Old_Guy]

Will post labs as soon as I figure out how to upload them as a picture and crop my info out.

I was just going to PM you about the PII in that .pdf Don't worry, I won't apply for too many credit cards

Just hit "Print Screen" on the keyboard and... Ah, I'll do it, stand by...

 

[The_Old_Guy]

Good?

 

[Dma378]

Haha you da man!!!

Thank you sir.

 

[Dma378]

Mostly ok with these. Test good for 250/week. E2 good. CBC good. Slightly elevated liver enzymes but not alarming.

 

[The_Old_Guy]

Haha you da man!!!

Thank you sir.

No prob, we were on at the same time, and I actually had the photo editor open (Irfanview - oldie, but fast for a quick forum image post). Glad you were cool with it.

 

[Brandinooooo]

Mostly ok with these. Test good for 250/week. E2 good. CBC good. Slightly elevated liver enzymes but not alarming.

Be careful with the liver enzymes bro. Try to keep em a little lower if at all possible.

 

[Dma378]

Be careful with the liver enzymes bro. Try to keep em a little lower if at all possible.

Pretty sure it's from a medication I took last week. Should have known better getting bloods.

 

[Sparkss]

Pretty sure it's from a medication I took last week. Should have known better getting bloods.

This may be a really remedial question, but is there a class (or classes) of medications known to raise the liver #s? IE: NSAIDs, Antibiotics, etc.?

 

[Dma378]

This may be a really remedial question, but is there a class (or classes) of medications known to raise the liver #s? IE: NSAIDs, Antibiotics, etc.?

I took a couple Percocets

 

[AllTheGainz]

Your on 250 a week and it's that high? Damn someone explain why his test is so high while running so little, just doesn't add up in my head. I'm also new to all this so...

 

[Dma378]

Your on 250 a week and it's that high? Damn someone explain why his test is so high while running so little, just doesn't add up in my head. I'm also new to all this so...

It's not that high. I'm on 100mg a week more than the average trt dose.

150 should land someone around 800-1000

 

[AllTheGainz]

It's not that high. I'm on 100mg a week more than the average trt dose.

150 should land someone around 800-1000

I guess the math just doesn't add up in my head then, idk how 250mg of test a week yeilds test that high. Then again I haven't ever really looked into it.

 

[Dma378]

I guess the math just doesn't add up in my head then, idk how 250mg of test a week yeilds test that high. Then again I haven't ever really looked into it.

If you haven't looked into it, why so puzzled? That in itself makes no sense LOL

 

[AllTheGainz]

If you haven't looked into it, why so puzzled? That in itself makes no sense LOL

Lol I guess the conversion rate just caught me off guard. Not often I see a lot of blood work so I never really had that question come up in my head.

 

[Dma378]

Depending on someone's baseline, history, etc. you can expect 5-7x the weekly dosage amount to equate to their total test #

So I'm at just under 6x (250)

 

[Dma378]

CJC 1295 DAC / MK 677 13 weeks & more!!

So if I was on a blast of say 500/week, I would really want to see a number around 3000

Of course higher is welcomed!!

 

[AllTheGainz]

Depending on someone's baseline, history, etc. you can expect 5-7x the weekly dosage amount to equate to their total test #

So I'm at just under 6x (250)

Ah okay, this just highlights the amount of research I still have to do