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tyga tyga said:
Meh idc for it. And if you double scoop it to get researched doses, watch out for the stim kick

BA under dosed
TMG under dosed
CM 2:1 underdosed
GMS surprisingly ok
Agmatine under dosed

Stim complex is ok
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Oh yeah and i take creatine seperately anyways so i could care less if thats in my pwo or not anyways lol
 
D3x said:
Not true.. some stims can do that.. like ephedrine does in alot of people.. makes them more mean..
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Oh really? Are you sure it’s not just an increase in mental arousal that you’re deciding to apply towards aggression?

I took ephedrine twice yesterday at work while fasting for the appetite suppression and boost to get through my workday - I was calm as a kitten. Taking same dose on squat day when I get to my top set I’m ready to destroy that thing. The compound didn’t change - my mindset did.
 
Hyde said:
Oh really? Are you sure it’s not just an increase in mental arousal that you’re deciding to apply towards aggression?

I took ephedrine twice yesterday at work while fasting for the appetite suppression and boost to get through my workday - I was calm as a kitten. Taking same dose on squat day when I get to my top set I’m ready to destroy that thing. The compound didn’t change - my mindset did.
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Could be.. but I'm a bit more of an arse hole on ephedrine. Lol
 
Hyde said:
Oh really? Are you sure it’s not just an increase in mental arousal that you’re deciding to apply towards aggression?

I took ephedrine twice yesterday at work while fasting for the appetite suppression and boost to get through my workday - I was calm as a kitten. Taking same dose on squat day when I get to my top set I’m ready to destroy that thing. The compound didn’t change - my mindset did.
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Yeah when i get stimmed out i always channel it into aggression. Maybe im just an aggressive person lol. Androgens just add to it lol
 
christ83189 said:
Yeah when i get stimmed out i always channel it into aggression. Maybe im just an aggressive person lol. Androgens just add to it lol
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Exactly. There is a huge difference between a stimulant and an androgen. Both are PEDs, but drinking 4 cups of coffee doesn’t inherently make you angry.

You take enough gear, you are going to be feeling some type of way lol
 
Hyde said:
Hey I deadlift this morning too! Virtually same weight too. Must be the lift of the day
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Nice! Im just hoping we dont get to setting the concrete stair treads at work today. Last time i did those it was on deadlift day and it sucked lol. Each one weighs 100+ lbs and im the human forklift so i get to do it. When other people do it it takes 2 of them lol
 
Hyde said:
Exactly. There is a huge difference between a stimulant and an androgen. Both are PEDs, but drinking 4 cups of coffee doesn’t inherently make you angry.

You take enough gear, you are going to be feeling some type of way lol
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yeah horny and sweaty and strong
 
I can do touch and go no problem. Its actually easier that way. I was told by someone on here they want to see me deadstop those so there it is lol
 
Arent epistane and trenavar specifically named in the DASCA ban? I went into my supp ahop the other day and they had an epi/trenavar stack in there. They always have msten and dmz and m1a cause they werent specifically named i thought. But i was surprised to see epi/trenavar. They had another one called deccadrol by outlaw aesthrtics but i cant remember what that one is but im pretty sure it has a banned compound in it too
 
Wee bit late but in to follow along! You are looking beastly!!
 
christ83189 said:
Geez about time lol thank you :) glad to have you in here
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Haha ikr! Sometimes I forget to look in the “timeline” vs only my subscribed threads.
 
D3x said:
Bah deadlifts on Tuesday is where it's at;p
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Well we have the last 6 weeks but we just bumped everything forward a day. So that was fun, losing a rest day.

christ83189 said:
Arent epistane and trenavar specifically named in the DASCA ban? I went into my supp ahop the other day and they had an epi/trenavar stack in there. They always have msten and dmz and m1a cause they werent specifically named i thought. But i was surprised to see epi/trenavar. They had another one called deccadrol by outlaw aesthrtics but i cant remember what that one is but im pretty sure it has a banned compound in it too
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Look Chris you wanna buy the sh!t or not??
 
Hyde said:
Oh really? Are you sure it’s not just an increase in mental arousal that you’re deciding to apply towards aggression?

I took ephedrine twice yesterday at work while fasting for the appetite suppression and boost to get through my workday - I was calm as a kitten. Taking same dose on squat day when I get to my top set I’m ready to destroy that thing. The compound didn’t change - my mindset did.
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For whatever reason Ephidrine, at least the older versions with the stonger alkoloids one of the side effects was irritability. Irritability is a form of aggression, but not always driven by androgens.

Saying androgens are required for aggression sounds like you have never been around a female. ;)

They can be VERY AGGRESSIVE while not being very androgenic at all.

Hyde said:
Look Chris you wanna buy the sh!t or not??
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No doubt right! Just get it from the back room Chris...
 
MrKleen73 said:
For whatever reason Ephidrine, at least the older versions with the stonger alkoloids one of the side effects was irritability. Irritability is a form of aggression, but not always driven by androgens.

Saying androgens are required for aggression sounds like you have never been around a female. ;)

They can be VERY AGGRESSIVE while not being very androgenic at all.


No doubt right! Just get it from the back room Chris...
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Caffeine can make me irritable, and that can be used to drive aggression, but saying the stimulants are causing aggression is irresponsible pansy scapegoatism.

I can conjure up some dark thoughts and flip a switch and bam - ready for war. But I take a bronkaid and now I’m a liability in the workplace?? C’mon, that is busted thinking.

I never said androgens are required for aggression. Only that stimulants don’t “cause aggression”.
 
Causation doesn’t equalcorrelation

Stimulants don’t equal aggression lol ~ from anecdotal evidence I’ve never taken a pre workout OR caffeine/dmaa or ECA and have felt an overwhelming feeling of pent up rage or hostility aka aggression.
 
I've dealt with far more angry people who have yet to have their daily cup of joe, in comparison to anyone overly aggressive because of too much caffeine.
 
Hyde said:
Caffeine can make me irritable, and that can be used to drive aggression, but saying the stimulants are causing aggression is irresponsible pansy scapegoatism.

I can conjure up some dark thoughts and flip a switch and bam - ready for war. But I take a bronkaid and now I’m a liability in the workplace?? C’mon, that is busted thinking.

I never said androgens are required for aggression. Only that stimulants don’t “cause aggression”.
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Haha well since you put it that way... I think we are thinking of different forms of aggression here. I don't think aggression in the gym is a negative thing nor requires any malice or negativity. When I refer to a preworkout helping with aggression I am referring to positive aggression like pacing back and forth between sets just wanting to get back at the weights. Not being an a-hole or as you so colorfully put it, "A liability in the work place". I wasn't even thinking about aggression on those levels. I didn't figure it was what he meant when he asked either.

As far as the part about the androgens it just struck me as funny because you said not unless there are androgens in it. My immediate thought was that doesn't apply to women. I was just being sarcastic setting up the joke about women being aggressive. I didn't think you really thought they were a requirement for aggression or that you would take it seriously. I thought I put a smile there to show I was joking.
tyga tyga said:
Causation doesn’t equalcorrelation

Stimulants don’t equal aggression lol ~ from anecdotal evidence I’ve never taken a pre workout OR caffeine/dmaa or ECA and have felt an overwhelming feeling of pent up rage or hostility aka aggression.
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No me either, but people can be aggressive without being hostile. That is just one definition and use of the word.

I can say that I get pissed more quickly on stimulants if something happens that would piss me off anyway. Uhm... their stimulants. Speeding things up is what they do. So that only makes sense.
 
tyga tyga said:
Causation doesn’t equalcorrelation

Stimulants don’t equal aggression lol ~ from anecdotal evidence I’ve never taken a pre workout OR caffeine/dmaa or ECA and have felt an overwhelming feeling of pent up rage or hostility aka aggression.
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It just hit me that saying is backwards there. I read it several times thinking something was off. It is correlation does not equal causation. I love that saying or quote.
 
MrKleen73 said:
It just hit me that saying is backwards there. I read it several times thinking something was off. It is correlation does not equal causation. I love that saying or quote.
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You know, when I was typing it out and using scenarios in my head I was thinking “something is off here”. Should have just googled the phrase lol
 
Strength is definitely finally starting to climb again after last weeks deload. Weights moving easier for sure. Excited to see what the next few weeks bring
 
tyga tyga said:
You know, when I was typing it out and using scenarios in my head I was thinking “something is off here”. Should have just googled the phrase lol
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Yeah, I swear I went back and looked at it like 5-6 times and then realized what it was.
christ83189 said:
Strength is definitely finally starting to climb again after last weeks deload. Weights moving easier for sure. Excited to see what the next few weeks bring
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Nice work, I look at people pressing over 300 for reps and it makes my shoulders hurt right now. Not sure why, my shoulders are actually feeling decent. However I feel that has a lot to do with me not pressing 300+ for reps any more.
 
Nice vids
 
Strength is up for sure. I just incline pressed the 90's for an easy set of 10. Ive never incline pressed the 90's let alone for a set of 10. That deload did me well
 
Bench day

Felt good today. It was kinda just an extra day so i just thought id mess around with bench and stuff.

Bench
Bar 3x15
135 2x5
185x5
225x5
275x5
300x2
325x1
335x1 PR (vid)

Cgbp ss/ incline db press ss/ tricep press ss/ cable fly

185x10x3

75'sx10x3

100x10, 90x10, 90x9

40x10x2, 50x10
 
Looked good and you had at least another 5 in you. Wasn't even a grinder!
 
christ83189 said:
Bench day

Felt good today. It was kinda just an extra day so i just thought id mess around with bench and stuff.

Bench
Bar 3x15
135 2x5
185x5
225x5
275x5
300x2
325x1
335x1 PR (vid)

Cgbp ss/ incline db press ss/ tricep press ss/ cable fly

185x10x3

75'sx10x3

100x10, 90x10, 90x9

40x10x2, 50x10
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you smoked that 335. id say 365-380 is your max. Really hope you hit 405 this cycle. How much longer are you "ON"?
 
Strong work! Definitely made it look easy!
 
Cgkone said:
you smoked that 335. id say 365-380 is your max. Really hope you hit 405 this cycle. How much longer are you "ON"?
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Well idk if its that high but i definitely had some left in the tank. Im on a couple more weeks so ill see where that takes me
 
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