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Chris Cormier Near Death Experience

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I hope it isn't the end of his career. :jaw:
 
damn. Imagining being told that you have been in the hospital for a month and a half when you think you've been there for a week is beyond scary.

Have got to respect his will though, can barley walk and is confined to a hospital until the end of August and is still thinking competition and Olympia.
 
OCCFan023 said:
Have got to respect his will though, can barley walk and is confined to a hospital until the end of August and is still thinking competition and Olympia.
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Honestly, Chris has always been one of my favorite bodybuilders, but he has crossed the line between optomistic and insane if he thinks hes going to be at the olympia. With that siad I hope he wins it :thumbsup:
 
I hope he feels better, but God do I hate that idiot:

[ CL: ] Why didn't you call 911?

CC: Men and people like me don't like going to the hospital!


[ CL: ] What happened next?

CC: I called a friend and told him to come home, that I couldn't move and had to pee so bad I was like "SH!T!" I am gonna have to pee on myself! I was trippin!" He finally came and called 911. What do you know, the police showed up before the ambulance. They come and want to check out the scene like some violent crime went down.

I'm like the only black guy I saw in this whole area and they were probably like "What the hell is the black dude up to?" The ambulance finally arrived and there were two women and one small man trying to lift me onto this little @ss board. The cop acted like he wasn't going to do anything, then he finally helped.
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Will he ever let the black dude thing go?!?! Not even near death...my God.
 
Chris Cormier is "notorious" for his *****ing and complaining about racial prejudice.

In addition, I come from a very diverse group of friends. In fact, In my closest 15 friends, about 5 of them are white! I know some parts of the world are very discriminatory, but its not everyone everywhere. Where we live, about 85% white (just so happened that my group of friends ended up this way) none of them have any complaints of racism against them in their entire lives! Now, I do know a vietnamese family who got it pretty bad in San Jose, CA as far as racism is concerned, but its "where" moreso than a simple existance. And, I'd go so far as to say that the vast majority of people in America would not go out of their way to discriminate against anyone else, but I understand it does happen.

The reason I get so upset about Cormier is because everywhere he goes, everyeone he talks to, he thinks they all hate him because he's black. He's ridiculous. E.G. Just recently when Lee Priest beat him in Lee's homeland, instead of realizing the simple truth that Lee's a highly favored contestant in Australia, he has to call the judges a buch of racist as$holes. Funny it never seemed to stop Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman, Sergio Oliva, etc from winning their titles. He just likes to ***** and complain and stir trouble.

He's continually screwed over in events and in life because he's a jerk, not because he's black.
 
Jayhawkk said:
While I think some people play the race card I don't think it's enough to automatically think all people do it.
Why let it go when it surrounds us everyday of our lives?

I ask that question about people all the time but moreso about the ones who won't let racism go.

I've seen enough racism from my own eyes that I can't imagine what it would be like on the receiving end, all my life.
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Why let it go when it surrounds us everyday of our lives?:think:
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Chris Cormier is "notorious" for his *****ing and complaining about racial prejudice.

In addition, I come from a very diverse group of friends. In fact, In my closest 15 friends, about 5 of them are white! I know some parts of the world are very discriminatory, but its not everyone everywhere. Where we live, about 85% white (just so happened that my group of friends ended up this way) none of them have any complaints of racism against them in their entire lives! Now, I do know a vietnamese family who got it pretty bad in San Jose, CA as far as racism is concerned, but its "where" moreso than a simple existance. And, I'd go so far as to say that the vast majority of people in America would not go out of their way to discriminate against anyone else, but I understand it does happen.

The reason I get so upset about Cormier is because everywhere he goes, everyeone he talks to, he thinks they all hate him because he's black. He's ridiculous. E.G. Just recently when Lee Priest beat him in Lee's homeland, instead of realizing the simple truth that Lee's a highly favored contestant in Australia, he has to call the judges a buch of racist as$holes. Funny it never seemed to stop Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman, Sergio Oliva, etc from winning their titles. He just likes to ***** and complain and stir trouble.

He's continually screwed over in events and in life because he's a jerk, not because he's black.
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Thats racist man. You know the reason he came in looking like crap at the O was because the man was trying to hold him down. It had absolutley nothing to do with diet and exercise.

You know since Dorian is white, he probably set him up on purpose to get hurt.
 
Yikes. My prayers go out to him.
I've always liked his physique.
I thought it was from his training, but upon further inspection it was from an injury he sustained when he was younger.
Just reminds us of our human nature: even the strongest of athletes are still fragile in many ways. Safe training everybody.
 
Ya, Renegade...We can drop the racism debates and start a thread up for it in the politics forum. This is for well wishes of a fellow weight lifter who suffered a injury.
 
Jayhawkk said:
I was posting a general statement vs. just Chris. I never followed his career since I wasn't really ever a fan.
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Well, I was referncing Chris Cormier. He's a total paranoid as$hole. Great physique and great potential though.

But yeah, didn't mean to take it OT. I just am sickened that he has to bring it up in every interview.
 
Sounds like the same sort of spinal infection that killed Bruce Lee. Sounds frickin awful. I can't even imagine that level of pain.

Get well, Chris.
 
Jayhawkk said:
I was hoping you would know cause I don't :)
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It is one of those things if you have to ask you will never know. But I will break it down for you anyway. He can't call the cops because when you look like a big menacing dude cops don't give you the benefit of the doubt like they would an old lady. Plus since he is a bodybuilder he most likely has illeagle drugs(steroids) around so he don't want to go to jail because in jail it's not a game.
 
So it's okay to label all cops as corrupt and racist and not possessing the means to make rational decisions but it's not okay to flip it around?

Gotcha. I wouldn't understand...But just to let ya know. I wasn't always a cop and I have been in jail and I still didn't get it.
 
Jayhawkk said:
So it's okay to label all cops as corrupt and racist and not possessing the means to make rational decisions but it's not okay to flip it around?

Gotcha. I wouldn't understand...But just to let ya know. I wasn't always a cop and I have been in jail and I still didn't get it.
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I didn't go that far with it. I understand that cops have a job to do and they have to keep order. I have met good and bad cops. But I can understand exactly where chris is coming from. It's not some game he is playing here where he can just make it all work out by calling the authorities.
 
Of course not. 911 calls in everybody but these big time pros should be well aware of certain things and should never keep anything in plain site in case of mishaps.

I just get personally offended when I get tossed into an arguement by default of being a cop. I've never put my integrity in question and take it personally when people assume that a cop automatically will do so.
 
Race issue aside, I can see the responders being a little leary of a 292 pound freak who is screaming his head off in agony. For all they know he could have been gorked out on PCP and dangerous. We ALL know that people are afraid of muscular men..and when you are as stacked as Chris and writhing around screaming..it's going to make people hesitant.
 
B4n3 0n3 said:
It is one of those things if you have to ask you will never know. But I will break it down for you anyway. He can't call the cops because when you look like a big menacing dude cops don't give you the benefit of the doubt like they would an old lady.
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Big menacing dude is one thing. He says its because he's a black dude. Its about attitude and self presentation.

Having spent the past few years in the gym, I know plenty of big guys. Plenty of big black guys, too. None of them have any problems because they don't look "menacing", despite their color.

Plus since he is a bodybuilder he most likely has illeagle drugs(steroids) around so he don't want to go to jail because in jail it's not a game.
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That's almost a legitimate reason. But, his house isn't going to get searched because he was in horrible pain! An ambulance was called b/c he couldn't freggin' walk. The cops aren't going to run through his cupboards looking for ways to bust him...hell, they can't!

I've had three relatives get out of prison this past year. I know it shouldn't be taken lightly. What I don't understand is the relevance of prison to Chris Cormier calling an ambulance. The parallel drawn there is one drawn of a paranoid dellusion at best.
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Big menacing dude is one thing. He says its because he's a black dude.

Having spent the past few years in the gym, I know plenty of big guys. Plenty of big black guys, too. None of them have any problems because they don't look "menacing", despite their color.


That's almost a legitimate reason. But, his house isn't going to get searched because he was in horrible pain! An ambulance was called b/c he couldn't freggin' walk. The cops aren't going to run through his cupboards looking for ways to bust him...hell, they can't!

I've had three relatives get out of prison this past year. I know it shouldn't be taken lightly. What I don't understand is the relevance of prison to Chris Cormier calling an ambulance. The parallel drawn there is one drawn of a paranoid dellusion at best.
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I agree with you. From reading what he said, he seems like someone who is very delusional. He likes to play the "race card" any chance he gets.
 
How many times would you imagine in his lifetime it "could" of been played against him?

I'm just thinking a lot of the time we forget these things which was my earlier point in a round about way.

You may have read or know of less than a baker's dozen times that he's 'pulled the race card'.

It's probably a good bet he's been the victim of it many times over that amount. You have to take it all into perspective.
 
He could have experienced it, or could have "believed" he experienced it.

Of the people I know who are constantly badgering on about the racism in my particular area of the world, its entirely a dellusion on their part. They're confusing the fact that they're morons with others being racist. It is their actions that make the world respond to them the way they do, not their skin color.

Similarly, have you ever met anyone that didnt' get along with ANYONE!? They usually (irrationally) believe that they world is a messed up place and is out to get them. They never seriously look at themselves and their actions. This, IMHO, makes up the "majority" of people who believe they're experiencing racial prejudice.

A couple of a hypotheticals:

If a person was outright pulled out of a church and beaten with a club by cops calling them derrogatory and racist names, well...that would constitute racism. Walking into a coffee shop owned by a white guy who treats you like crap isn't. He probably treats everyone else like crap, too. Catch my drift?
 
Well, there are racists in all areas of the world. Heck, I can't tell you how many politicians I believe to be blatantly racist...and they're somehow supposed to represent me? :lol:

The cops around my part of the world are pretty laid back, honestly. Then again, there is a pretty decent level of diversity within the police force here.

I won't deny that amongst them there is probably a greater tendency to look at a black or mexican and expect trouble...heck, they'll admit that to me. Even most of the minority cops will tell me the same thing. But, its as simple as statistics. Unfortunately there is a disproportionate level of violent crimes within these groups (usually associated wtih gang-affliliation and the "gangsta" mentality). Cops need to watch their backs, too (as I'm sure you know). I don't view that as racist one bit.
 
Well you know Apo had to say something about race. its just not that simple people Kywck I know you hate when people play the race card, but understand this as a black man its an everday thing. I am a man, and secondly I am black, and will never be any other race or etnicity. But understand he has to act a certain way because he will be deemed a threat, or an intruder. NO one of you have ever lived a day in the life of a black man, nor do you have to be on your p's and q's because you are black. You can be legit, and still be harrased, you can be rich, and still be black, and not recieve the same attention as other counterparts of other races. As long as people say their is no racism it will run rampant, and no will discuss it.
Kywck I understand that you have many races of friends, but understand not everyone is as open as you, and their are many different types of racism, sure, you can get the job, but you will never advance because you know he's black, and they cannot be president of the comapny. Why is it that their is NOT ONE BLACK MAJORITY OWNER of any sport team? Why is that Bill COsby could not have bought into CBS when they were in trouble financially? Certainly Blacks have come a long way, but please do not act like racism is not alive and running.

Truthfully I really think Chris was half playing, as we all know what DWB is driving while black, and please tell me that does not exist.
Lastly I wish Chris COrmier the best, but being a black man will always be a deciding factor and force in eveyday life in many lives, so before you belittle the racism in America, understand that the civil rights era was only 40 years ago. Which is a wisp in time.

PS look in last months Muscle and Fitness and see how many readers were appalled when a black man by the name of Leroy Colbert graced the cover of the Weider's magazine in the 50's, in which he was one of the first men to have over 20" arms...
 
Apowerz6 said:
Well you know Apo had to say something about race. its just not that simple people Kywck I know you hate when people play the race card, but understand this as a black man its an everday thing. I am a man, and secondly I am black, and will never be any other race or etnicity. But understand he has to act a certain way because he will be deemed a threat, or an intruder. NO one of you have ever lived a day in the life of a black man, nor do you have to be on your p's and q's because you are black. You can be legit, and still be harrased, you can be rich, and still be black, and not recieve the same attention as other counterparts of other races. As long as people say their is no racism it will run rampant, and no will discuss it.
Kywck I understand that you have many races of friends, but understand not everyone is as open as you, and their are many different types of racism, sure, you can get the job, but you will never advance because you know he's black, and they cannot be president of the comapny. Why is it that their is NOT ONE BLACK MAJORITY OWNER of any sport team? Why is that Bill COsby could not have bought into CBS when they were in trouble financially? Certainly Blacks have come a long way, but please do not act like racism is not alive and running.

Truthfully I really think Chris was half playing, as we all know what DWB is driving while black, and please tell me that does not exist.
Lastly I wish Chris COrmier the best, but being a black man will always be a deciding factor and force in eveyday life in many lives, so before you belittle the racism in America, understand that the civil rights era was only 40 years ago. Which is a wisp in time.

PS look in last months Muscle and Fitness and see how many readers were appalled when a black man by the name of Leroy Colbert graced the cover of the Weider's magazine in the 50's, in which he was one of the first men to have over 20" arms...
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Apowerz6 said:
As long as people say their is no racism it will run rampant, and no will discuss it.
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I have never said that, and nobody in here is saying that bro. I understand that there is racism, white people experience it too believe it or not! I find it to be racist when people often assume I'm racist b/c I'm saying something that is not politically correct and white...happens every once in a while ;) (No, not referencing you Az...you're a reasonable guy and you've never said that :) ) All I said is that racism tends to be blown out of proportion and that Chris Cormier is notorious for taking the race card too far too often.
Kywck I understand that you have many races of friends, but understand not everyone is as open as you,
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I understnad this, but I didn't bring my multi-racial group of friends up to show my openness to racial diversity. I brought it up because,of my friends, I can't think of very many who say they've experienced what other people claim to be an every day occurence. My friends do, however, have one thing in common. Most of them have been described "by their peers" as "whitewashed". They speak, talk, and act like me...only their skin is different. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Now, as I mentioned earlier, this may just be "my area". I understnad that different locations can be more or less accepting of other races. I do have plenty of family in the south-east.

...but please do not act like racism is not alive and running.
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Again, I never said that. Just that basically, its blown out of proportion and used as an excuse by many people. I understand it exists all over the world, even here in the good ole USA.

PS look in last months Muscle and Fitness and see how many readers were appalled when a black man by the name of Leroy Colbert graced the cover of the Weider's magazine in the 50's, in which he was one of the first men to have over 20" arms...
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50 years ago premarital sex was an egregious act. The way kids dress, the way they talk, the way they treat their parents (with disrespect)...these are all huge societal changes. This is because the people who made up the foundation of our society from the 50s are now mostly dead. With them went most of the values they held...some of which were passed on. Similarly, racism as a common belief amongst Americans in those times died with them. Yes, many family's roots in racism were too strong to die and their racist beliefs were passed on generation after generation until present day. But, in general, we are a completely different people today than we were 50 years ago here in America.

To recap, I know racism exists, however I believe that most people view it as a very ignorant way of thinking. And, my personal feeling regarding racism are that it is blown out of proportion. However, I do feel that there is a culture-clash problem here and now. But, I am not quite liberal enough to say that cultural diversity is a "good thing" without evidence to back it up. I believe it creates divisions.

Maybe its the culture clash that's the problem in our society...but its definitely not racism.

Let me end with a logical statement.

80% of People X are of race 1 and of culture A
80% of People Y are of race 2 and of culture B

If culture A and culture B do not blend well, that DOES NOT mean that race is an issue. I think people are illogically confusing a culture clash with racial prejudice.
 
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Jayhawkk said:
You know you're out of your league when someone can use this word. But be warned mr. I have since googled and will now has this ability as well!!
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:lol:

We've all been there jayhawkk-san :)
 
WOW egregious huh Kywck I have to gets my edjumucation to use that word. I understand your post, I was just speaking in general, as I know Chris uses his black man ace card, but I was also presenting another side, and maybe a way for you to understand why he does so. Now do I think he uses race alot, yeah, but it still does not discredit that it may happen I cannot tell as I was not there. ANyway Kyxck you are a rational person and I respect your ideas however racist they are :lol: JK Kywck is not racist !!!!!
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
I have never said that, and nobody in here is saying that bro. I understand that there is racism, white people experience it too believe it or not! I find it to be racist when people often assume I'm racist b/c I'm saying something that is not politically correct and white...happens every once in a while ;) (No, not referencing you Az...you're a reasonable guy and you've never said that :) ) All I said is that racism tends to be blown out of proportion and that Chris Cormier is notorious for taking the race card too far too often.
I understnad this, but I didn't bring my multi-racial group of friends up to show my openness to racial diversity. I brought it up because,of my friends, I can't think of very many who say they've experienced what other people claim to be an every day occurence. My friends do, however, have one thing in common. Most of them have been described "by their peers" as "whitewashed". They speak, talk, and act like me...only their skin is different. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Now, as I mentioned earlier, this may just be "my area". I understnad that different locations can be more or less accepting of other races. I do have plenty of family in the south-east.

Again, I never said that. Just that basically, its blown out of proportion and used as an excuse by many people. I understand it exists all over the world, even here in the good ole USA.


50 years ago premarital sex was an egregious act. The way kids dress, the way they talk, the way they treat their parents (with disrespect)...these are all huge societal changes. This is because the people who made up the foundation of our society from the 50s are now mostly dead. With them went most of the values they held...some of which were passed on. Similarly, racism as a common belief amongst Americans in those times died with them. Yes, many family's roots in racism were too strong to die and their racist beliefs were passed on generation after generation until present day. But, in general, we are a completely different people today than we were 50 years ago here in America.

To recap, I know racism exists, however I believe that most people view it as a very ignorant way of thinking. And, my personal feeling regarding racism are that it is blown out of proportion. However, I do feel that there is a culture-clash problem here and now. But, I am not quite liberal enough to say that cultural diversity is a "good thing" without evidence to back it up. I believe it creates divisions.

Maybe its the culture clash that's the problem in our society...but its definitely not racism.

Let me end with a logical statement.

80% of People X are of race 1 and of culture A
80% of People Y are of race 2 and of culture B

If culture A and culture B do not blend well, that DOES NOT mean that race is an issue. I think people are illogically confusing a culture clash with racial prejudice.
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Good posting. Chris Cormier might have had bad racial experiences, but it doesnt mean he should steroetype all cops because of it. Believe it or not, white boys deal with racism too. Where I used to live in southeast ak, if you were a white kid most of the people hated you. Since most of the town where we were at were populated by "alaska natives" we were the minority. Every day when I was younger I would go to school, get harassed, get **** stolen, etc. Me and my brother were always getting attacked, simply because we had white skin. Then we moved up here to the city, where it is roughly 65% white. And up here when I went to High School there was much racial tension between everybody. And to be honest 8 times out of 10 it was a black kid trying to harass a white kid. It wasnt exactly a "multicultural paradise". So there are two sides to this coin.
 
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