Driven2lift
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Lol
Lol
What massive clean up have I missed?
I saw one comment which was edited by you but nothing else. Was there more? lol
This is like when they took cocaine out of coca cola lmfao
Just in case the text on our screens hurts feelings?
Lol
12 pages and counting. I must be lazy today in my mass deletion. The other place, 2 pages.![]()
BUT I MUST CONTAIN THE SITUATION. EVERYONE REMAIN CALM.
This isn't page 1?

lol
QUICK. Somebody start a "what creatine should I use?" thread! Someone else post a thread about which BPI pixie dust flavor is best!
Things are out of control!!!
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Dictatorship is just how it goes when you own the place eh?![]()
I deleted that. Along with another page. LMAO.
Its confusing because this whole thread is like the same 6 comments repeated over and over lol
"Just look at what has recently happened on AM and the massive cleanup Admin had to do over there to contain the situation."
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
I've been eyeing this thread the entire time. You actually got rid of stuff? Hm.
Mainly the early stuff about other companies copying PES older formulas. Even though it was mainly joking, I think it was inappropriate since the reps are taking a beating trying to answer questions.
Nice find!
However, the Weider's has more stuff, seems to be cheaper and better dosed.
Weider's > PES...
Cant believe what I just wrote
I legit lol'd at someone linking Weiders Fat Burner.
L-Theanine I think is a little over rated and I'd be surprised if it was really useful in a fat burner, but I can see it has SOME mood enhancing effects.
"Just look at what has recently happened on AM and the massive cleanup Admin had to do over there to contain the situation."
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
OH. My bad then. I thought it was in good fun.
Actually, L-Theanine + Caffieine combined is a great combination for smooth energy without any jitters. Not exactly "exotic" or "novel", but a very good combination. But eh, I'm the only one who may think so.
Actually, a lot of people may agree with you and this is how it is usually billed - but I'm pretty caffeine tolerant (I can take a gram and barely feel it) - and L-Theanine subjectively hasn't ever made me notice much. Maybe I should play with it more....and I may be in a minority.
In other news, Admin over on AM quoted one of my posts about the massive cleanup he's been doing to contain the situation and we have one of the posters stating:
"What massive clean up have I missed? I saw one comment which was edited by you but nothing else. Was there more? lol"
For which I would like to point out that TWO entire pages have vanished from the thread in question. I also know Admin is reading this thread and perhaps he thinks I'm sneakily going on AM, nope, someone has just been updating me on the going ons over there
#dramawhatdrama
Lol. I'll be the go-to
#dramawhatdrama
I take full responsibility for all the drama. I posted the profile in this thread expecting it to die sooner than other relevant threads so I won't get endless notifications. :Flush:
PES is now the George R.R. Martin of supp companies. They keep telling us Winter is coming (Stim PreWO), and then they kill off our favorite characters (RIP Norco/Alphamine).
muscle tech and all the other industry giants have multiple skus with yohimbine based formulas. the "wider audience" thing is laughable- cost cutting move through and through.
Mainly the stuff about other companies producing old PES products and the over the top stuff. In fact, stuff we normally do..
BUT I MUST CONTAIN THE SITUATION. EVERYONE REMAIN CALM.
To be fair, there are some other ingredients in the new Norco - Lemon Balm, Theanine and Aframomum. I like Aframomum as an ingredient so I'm not knocking that. And I don't know if Lemon Balm will have any real effect. L-Theanine I think is a little over rated and I'd be surprised if it was really useful in a fat burner, but I can see it has SOME mood enhancing effects. But Kola Nut has been an ingredient in fat burners that don't work for 30 years. Chormium Picolinate, IMO, isn't even as good as Polynicotinate. And since we're talking about buying bulk - chromium is pretty cheap. Honestly, the only thing in the new Norco that I definitely like is the Aframomum and caffeine. The lemon balm may be interesting.
And of course, maybe something will be shown to prove me wrong? I'm just not seeing it, but I'm not afraid to admit that I don't know everything.
You shouldn't laugh too hard. That fat burner was around since the mid-90's at least when I started lifting as a teenager. I remember it having Kola Nut, Mustard Seed Extract, guarana, and a bunch of other things in it. Even though it had all the extra ingredients, it just flat didn't do jack.
Just as we all suspected and complained about earlier in the thread. Truly pathetic effort from the PES team on this one.
If it weren't for Ergonine, I would be 100% done with PES. People let your wallet speak for how disappointed you are with this.
I hope they don't change Select.
I heard it's gonna be soy based for the next update...
I heard it's gonna be soy based for the next update...
With added aminos...