Unanswered CEL Anabolic Effect - Natural Anabolic

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I have never logged a single product that we make because I've always figured that people either wouldn't be interested or wouldn't believe it anyway. I could do a log if anyone's interested but it would be more of an overview than a detailed log.
Definitely and I’m sure others would love to read too.
 

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Would enjoy a "single product" log of this as well. The stack guys I'm sorry but there's no way to be transparent there and know exactly what is doing what. It's like putting condiments on a great steak just because you are used to doing so and haven't even given it a try firstly to know.
 

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Would enjoy a "single product" log of this as well. The stack guys I'm sorry but there's no way to be transparent there and know exactly what is doing what.
 
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Would enjoy a "single product" log of this as well. The stack guys I'm sorry but there's no way to be transparent there and know exactly what is doing what. It's like putting condiments on a great steak just because you are used to doing so and haven't even given it a try firstly to know.

I agree but if it’s stuff you take regularly, you can easily tell the added effects. If it’s all new you would have no idea what was coming from the product.
 
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Would enjoy a "single product" log of this as well. The stack guys I'm sorry but there's no way to be transparent there and know exactly what is doing what. It's like putting condiments on a great steak just because you are used to doing so and haven't even given it a try firstly to know.
I’ll probably be going pretty straight forward when I use it for at least the first month.
 

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How you meant to guage how well the Anabolic Effect works when you're gonna add stack with another 3 natural anabolics
Eh i trust cel/sns. their products are great. i havent ordered any supplements in a few years and im ready to splurge hard.
 

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If you don't already have the above, you should look into stacking Anabolic Effect with M-Test. M-Test contains the PrimaVie, Boron, and Fadogia from Black Magic and the Fadogia dosage is M-Test is almost as high as the total proper blend used in Black Magic.



I don't think Anabolic Effect will be bad for joints at all. If you have joint issues, you should look into Joint Support XT.



I get both sides of that. There's the observer side that says - hey, I want to see how this works for someone solo. Then there's the user side that says - It's my body and I want to see maximum results as quickly as possible so I'm going to use this, this, and this haha. (I can relate bc I tend to do that myself lol)



Thank you. I'm glad you like it.



I've noticed through the years for some reason that people don't think of X-Gels (ArA) as a natural anabolic. Probably because back when it came out, companies were always attaching crazy claims to natural anabolics whereas with X-Gels we let the science and results stand for itself.

And absolutely, Joint Support XT is great if you have joint problems or to use preemptively even if you don't.
Do you think m test and test1fy would be too much mucuna? That’s my only concern
 
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Do you think m test and test1fy would be too much mucuna? That’s my only concern
It would be a lot of Mucuna. There is more ingredient overlap than that though. If you already have Test1fy I would say use it then try M-Test. If you don’t already have it, I think you can compare the ingredients and likely will find M-Test more appealing and also less expensive.
 
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Definitely going to do a M test / Anabolic Effect combo. Going to be killer for strength, pumps, size, confidence and wellbeing!
 
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Definitely going to do a M test / Anabolic Effect combo. Going to be killer for strength, pumps, size, confidence and wellbeing!
All aboard the gain train.
 
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I def think I'll be running this solo my first go... prob starting right after vacation in two weeks as a primer for labor day ;)
 
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Actigin should be well over 200 mg . Why a low dose ?
 

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Thank you. When all the hoopla was starting with the RR and EJ, that's what I was alluding to that it was over nothing because they weren't even the primary ingredients. They round out the formula nicely and I'll explain in the write up where they may have some synergy but that synergy has more to do with S7 and ActiGin rather than with KME :)
Reading up and thinking I’m seeing where some of these connections might be, also see how it could be pretty synergistic with Primavie.

I await the write up because it will probably make more sense and I’m not as smart as I pretend to be. 🤫

Actigin should be well over 200 mg . Why a low dose ?
No. 50mg is the recommended daily dose.
 
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Actigin should be well over 200 mg . Why a low dose ?
I think you might be confused on this one.

50 mg. of ActiGin is the dosage used in the clinical studies and the dosage recommended by the company that owns the rights to the ingredient.
 
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Sorry if I missed it but any ETA on when this is coming out?
 

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acitgin is on amzn, took 4 caps, took 6 caps one day, didn't feel any different.
That sucks. Don’t think it’s really a super acute type feeling though.

Generally I train pretty intensely with quite a bit full body and I find it has improved my recovery and ability to hit things hard again sooner and with better performance when I do.
 
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I tried actigin 600mg on some days, never felt any different.
Where did you get Actigin to allow you to try that dose?
acitgin is on amzn, took 4 caps, took 6 caps one day, didn't feel any different.
ActiGin on Amazon is 60 capsules for 44.95 (100 mg. per capsule).
(Interesting comparison - you'll be able to get a full month supply of Anabolic Effect for just a little more than just ActiGin solo haha).

The key words here are that you tried Actigin '600 mg on some days' and then said 'took 4 caps, took 6 caps one day' - ActiGin isn't something that you're supposed to be able to feel after one or two dosages. ActiGin needs to be used daily for best results - the company that owns the rights to it says that themselves and the clinical studies were done based on daily use. Any company that tries to present ActiGin as something you'll feel from the first dose is lying.

Things like that are sometimes why really great ingredients get a bad reputation. Peak 02 for example is really catching on now but originally, a few companies used it in a pre-workout and people didn't see anything from it and started saying it didn't work but no one ever claimed it would unless it was used daily. Same for ActiGin, the research is great and I think its a great ingredient but it needs to be used daily for best results.
 

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ActiGin on Amazon is 60 capsules for 44.95 (100 mg. per capsule).
(Interesting comparison - you'll be able to get a full month supply of Anabolic Effect for just a little more than just ActiGin solo haha).

The key words here are that you tried Actigin '600 mg on some days' and then said 'took 4 caps, took 6 caps one day' - ActiGin isn't something that you're supposed to be able to feel after one or two dosages. ActiGin needs to be used daily for best results - the company that owns the rights to it says that themselves and the clinical studies were done based on daily use. Any company that tries to present ActiGin as something you'll feel from the first dose is lying.

Things like that are sometimes why really great ingredients get a bad reputation. Peak 02 for example is really catching on now but originally, a few companies used it in a pre-workout and people didn't see anything from it and started saying it didn't work but no one ever claimed it would unless it was used daily. Same for ActiGin, the research is great and I think its a great ingredient but it needs to be used daily for best results.
I’m thinking dosing this with my preworkout meal should be awesome. Most of the studies appeared to be using it 1-hr preworkout if I was reading them right.
 
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Reading up and thinking I’m seeing where some of these connections might be, also see how it could be pretty synergistic with Primavie.

I await the write up because it will probably make more sense and I’m not as smart as I pretend to be. 🤫



No. 50mg is the recommended daily dose.
Iv seen some awesome results with higher numbers . Even confirmed with the company .
 
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Iv seen some awesome results with higher numbers . Even confirmed with the company .
Your statement about needing to use 200+ mg. of ActiGin per day is false.
Your statement about 50 mg. of ActiGin per day being low is false.

ActiGin is a patented ingredient from NuLiv Sciences who as the patent holder identify 50 mg. per day as the proper dosage for companies to use and as the dosage used in the majority of the studies. This is public information and it seems silly to argue or disagree on it.

No one is saying that you can't use more than 50 mg. but that doesn't change the fact that 50 mg. is the dosage recommended by the patent holder and is identified by them as the dosage that has been used in the majority of the studies. To imply otherwise is either to say that you know more about their own ingredient than they do or that you're saying they're lying, which wouldn't make sense because I'm sure they'd love to see people use as high a dosage as possible because that would translate into more kg's sold and more money for them.

Think about it, the higher the dosage used = the more kg's the patent holding company sells = the more kg's the more money they make; so they would have every financial incentive to promote higher dosing yet they identify 50 mg. as the correct dosage to formulate with.

When using clinically studied, licensed, branded ingredients, if using the clinically studied and confirmed dosage from the patent holding company isn't good enough for you, I'm not sure there's any pleasing you.
 
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Iv seen some awesome results with higher numbers . Even confirmed with the company .
I have not studied or used this ingredient, but I have mega dosed a lot of things on the market. What results did you get with higher doses and what regimens did you test?
 
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ActiGin on Amazon is 60 capsules for 44.95 (100 mg. per capsule).
(Interesting comparison - you'll be able to get a full month supply of Anabolic Effect for just a little more than just ActiGin solo haha).
Lol I’ll take AE any day
 
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Anabolic Effect
The Ultimate Anabolic Powerhouse

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Anabolic + Anti-Catabolic + Endurance Enhancing + Fat Burning + More


7 High End Active Ingredients
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- Reduced Fatigue
- Improved Recovery
- Dramatic Increases in Muscular Endurance
- Improved Libido
- Increases in IGF-1 Levels
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Let’s Examine the Ingredients:

Korean Mistletoe:

Korean Mistletoe is a semi-parasitic plant that grows on various trees and has been used for centuries to treat a variety of ailments. It has been researched for a diverse range of potential benefits and is believed to have immunostimulatory, anti-diabetic, and anti-obesity properties, and much more. Of particular interest to athletes and fitness enthusiasts is that Korean Mistletoe has been reported to increase lean muscle mass, strength, and overall exercise capacity.

Recent research has focused on Korean Mistletoe Extract for use as a treatment for the prevention and reversal of muscle wasting conditions. The research on Korean Mistletoe Extract has been exceptional and could be quite beneficial for athletes. It has been shown to regulate gene expression related to muscle atrophy (muscle breakdown) and muscle hypertrophy (muscle growth) and improve endurance by stimulating mitochondrial activity.

Korean Mistletoe having been shown to not only prevent muscle atrophy but also promote hypertrophy is significant because it means that Korean Mistletoe not only prevents muscle breakdown but also increases muscle growth. In studies, mice that were fed Korean Mistletoe for 4 weeks showed increases in muscle mass and grip strength. Researchers indicated multiple factors leading to this result including the AKT/mTOR pathway. The AKT/mTOR pathway is a signaling pathway recognized as the major pathway regulating protein synthesis. Due to the mice showing increases in muscle and greatly increased strength, the researchers determined that Korean Mistletoe is anabolic as it directly leads to larger and stronger muscles. In addition to increases in muscle and strength, the mice also showed incredible increases in endurance and exercise capacity making Korean Mistletoe an ideal option for strength, endurance, and fitness athletes.

Korean Mistletoe has also been shown in studies to increase endurance and decrease fatigue through increasing mitochondrial oxygen consumption and increased expression of PPARy. Notable examples included increases of up to 212% in swim tests on mice and in one test mice being fed Korean Mistletoe extract ran twice as far as their counterparts resulting in an incredible 100% increase in endurance. (Don’t take us wrong here, we are just conveying the study information but do realize that that is far too good to be true for it to directly translate over into humans at the same %’s; but even transferring over at a fraction of the effectiveness could lead to incredible results).

The last study that we want to bring attention to in this write up is related to fat loss. In one 15 week study on mice, two groups were fed a high fat diet with one group also being fed Korean Mistletoe Extract. At the end of the study, the mice fed the Korean Mistletoe Extract were shown to have 20% less bodyfat than the control group. Researchers found that Korean Mistletoe Extract increases thermogenesis and nearly tripled the amount of UCP1 (uncoupling protein 1), a thermogenic molecule related to the burning of subcutaneous and visceral fat.

This is an incredible level of fat burning potential for something so anabolic.

In summary, Korean Mistletoe Extract shows promising potential to be anabolic, anti-catabolic, endurance enhancing, and to increase fat burning.

Anabolic Effect provides 2,000 mg. Korean Mistletoe Extract per serving.

Eriobotrya Japonica Extract:
Eriobotrya Japonica contains a variety of natural anabolic components that may be beneficial to those looking to build lean muscle, increase strength, burn fat, & improve endurance and athletic performance. These include some very well-known names such as Epicatechin, Ferulic Acid, Caffeic Acid, Ursolic Acid, Tormenic Acid, Ellagic Acid, and more. Studies have shown Eriobotrya Japonica to increase the expression of certain myogenic genes and also activate the AKT/mTOR pathway and therefore promote muscle protein synthesis and lean muscle gains. In studies, Eriobotrya Japonica has been shown to prevent muscle atrophy (muscle wasting/muscle loss) and to increase muscle hypertrophy (muscle growth) which also makes it ideal for lean muscle retention while dieting.

Rehmannaie Radix Extract:
Rehmannaie Radix has several active compounds may be useful for building lean muscle, strength, and improving endurance, athletic performance, and fat loss. However, the main two we are going to focus on are Catalpol and to a lesser extent, Loganin.

Catalpol has been referred to by some as the closest one can get to natural gene doping due to its effects on erythropoietin (EPO), vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF), insulin like growth factor type 1 (IGF-1), endorphins, and more.

Erythropoietin (EPO) increases red blood cells which can in turn carry more oxygen to the muscles and lead to increases in overall performance and increases in VO2 max, overall power output, increased endurance, delayed fatigue, improved recovery, and more. These boosts give athletes a huge competitive advantage and EPO has been used illegally by athletes for decades to increase performance. It is most commonly associated with cycling because of the high number of cyclists that have been caught using EPO. What if you could naturally increase EPO? Of course, not to the degree that comes with illicit use, but that may still provide noticeable results in improved performance.

Loganin is a lesser known and lesser emphasized constituent of Rehmannaie Radix Extract. However, if Catalpol wasn’t such an extraordinary ingredient, Loganin itself may be an ingredient worth featuring on its own. It is an iridoid glycoside and can be derived from several sources but is present in high quantities in Rehmannaie Radix. Loganin has the potential to be a fascinating anabolic agent in its own right and is currently being studied for muscle atrophy. In addition, Loganin seems to possess anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, glucose lowering, and muscle protective benefits. Loganin is thought to work by upregulating the AKT/mTOR pathway and increasing IGF-1. Loganin has also been shown in animal studies to increase lean muscle, strength, and protein synthesis.

While many of the ingredients in Anabolic Effect may have potent synergistic effects with one another, the combination of Rehmannaie Radix and S7® may be particularly interesting due to Catalpol’s possible effects on EPO and S7® having been shown to increase nitric oxide levels by 230% through stimulating the body’s own natural production of nitric oxide. This could lead to an abundance of oxygen rich red blood cells being pumped through wide open blood vessels to hard working muscles.

PrimaVie® Shilajit Extract (50% Fulvic Acid):
PrimaVie® is a clinically proven high quality purified Shilajit extract from the Himalayas that contains 50% Fulvic Acid and over 40 other trace minerals and has been shown in studies to significantly increase free and total testosterone levels, as well as improve physical performance and reduce fatigue. In one human trial, Shilajit was able to markedly enhance the extracellular matrix gene expression responsible for skeletal muscle adaptation, making it one of the only ingredients to augment the effect of exercise in this manner.

In another study involving 60 infertile men, Shilajit supplementation was able to improve sperm count by over 60%, improve sperm motility by nearly 40%, and increase levels of testosterone by 23.5% through a reduction inn circulating free radicals. To further back this up, another study involving 75 males demonstrated a 20% increase in total testosterone and a 19% increase in free testosterone.

Shilajit has been used for centuries in Ayurvedic medicine to support male sexual health, energy, vitality, cognitive health, rejuvenation and more.
 
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ActiGin®:
ActiGin® is a natural patented proprietary sports nutraceutical complex comprised of highly fractionated Panax notoginseng and Rosa roxburghii and created using pharmaceutical grade extraction and processing technology and designed to be a 3 in 1 performance aid focusing on – Energy, Endurance, & Recovery.

ActiGin is the result of more than 10 years of research and is backed by one in-vivo and five human clinical trials and has been clinically shown to increase endurance, VO2 Max, muscular energy (ATP production), and reduce inflammation in muscles.

Studies indicate that ActiGin®’s effects on improving endurance/stamina, energy, and recovery time in high intensity exercises may be due to its ability to preserve insulin receptors and glucose transporters on muscle membranes during intensive exercises to ensure a continuous supply of blood glucose into the muscle. Glucose is the fuel for muscle during intense exercise. Depletion of glucose had detrimental effects on the muscles ability to contract and work properly. There are senescent (deteriorating) cells in all human tissues including short lived endothelial cells (lifespan < 2 weeks) in blood vessels and tissues. ActiGin® substantially reduced senescent cell population (mostly endothelial progenitor cells) of exercising skeletal muscle. Also, high intensity exercise acutely decreases satellite cell numbers due to increased demand on the nucleus for muscle regeneration and ActiGin® completely attenuated acute satellite cell depletion. These findings suggest that ActiGin® effectively facilitates senescent cell clearance in contracting muscles and helps maintain muscle stem cell numbers during exercise to enhance high-intensity endurance performance.

Study Highlights include:
  • Increased endurance time (time to exhaustion) by 20% (improve VO2 Max).
  • Increase energy (ATP production) but raising the pace-making Citrate synthase enzyme in the first step of the citric acid cycle by 42%.
  • Speed recovery by reducing inflammation in muscles as evidenced by the reduction of inflammatory biomarkers (TBARS (24%), MDA (44%), Interleukin 6 (IL-6) (35%), and Creatine kinase (CK) (69%)).
  • Eliminate senescent (deteriorating) muscle cells through macrophage phagocytosis (macrophage phagocytosis involves cells that protect the body by ingesting harmful particles and dead or dying cells). Specifically decreasing SA-B-gal and collagenase, reverse apoptotic DNA fragmentation and leukocyte infiltration, and increase iNOS and IL-6 mRNA expression in the quadriceps after 60 minutes of cycling at 70% VO2 max.
  • Effectively facilitating senescent (deteriorating) cell clearance in contracting muscles and helping maintain muscle stem cell numbers during exercise to enhance high-intensity endurance performance.
In short, ActiGin® is designed to help you train harder, longer, and recover more effectively.

S7®:
The human body already produces nitric oxide as a vasodilator, signaling the blood vessels to relax, thus increasing blood flow and delivering more oxygen, fuel, and other key nutrients to the muscles.

S7® is a blend of 7 plant-based ingredients that has been clinically shown to increase nitric oxide (NO) levels by 230%. S7® is very unique in that it works differently than other nitric oxide boosters on the market by triggering the body to increase its own internal nitric oxide production.

Anabolic Effect contains 50 mg. of S7®, the dosage used in the clinical studies showing the 230% nitric oxide increase.

AstraGin®:
AstraGin® is a natural patented ingredient complex comprised of highly fractionated Astragalus membranaceus and Panax notoginseng and created using pharmaceutical grade extraction and processing technology and designed to help enhance nutrient absorption.

In short, AstraGin® is designed to help make sure you properly absorb the other great nutrients in Anabolic Effect for maximum results.

Anabolic Effect
The Ultimate Natural Anabolic Powerhouse

Available July 9th, 2019
 
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Yummy yummyyy in my tummy.
 
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I have not studied or used this ingredient, but I have mega dosed a lot of things on the market. What results did you get with higher doses and what regimens did you test?
Way more endurance and atp. Much greater recovery !!!
 
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How many bottles should one buy to see full effects.. two bottles on first run should be ok?
 
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Most definitely, you should start seeing some results well before you finish your first bottle but two is the way to go!
 

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How many bottles should one buy to see full effects.. two bottles on first run should be ok?
As with most natural anabolics that should be fine.

There’s a few things here that would probably manifest pretty quickly and allow improvements in performance and recovery easily within a bottle, but adding muscle naturally is always relatively slow so seeing the overall results would be more apparent over 2 bottles (probably with better “quality” over this time).
 
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How many bottles should one buy to see full effects.. two bottles on first run should be ok?
I think 2 bottles would be a good run and could add a third if you're loving the progress and want to.
 
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In4 a 4-6 bottle run. When would u expect other retailers to have stock? (Dps for example)
 
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I’m thinking I’ll do this 12 weeks. And add M-test to the last 8 weeks. Xgels will he ran the whole 12.
 
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Yup I’m think 8-12 weeks

Gonna have 3 bottles in hand and plan a 8 week cycle and if all goes smoothly and loving the run .. gonna push it for additional 4 weeks
 

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