So you are saying that something on the infographic is invalid? If so what?Holy Crap Propaganda. I went to that little OnlineSchool website and reading the hot topics; it literally is every last bullet point from Chris Matthews mouth.
Completly agenda driven, no argument. But I loathe big pharma, maybe the infographic was not the best, but i used it more in terms of a statement then concrete reasoning.That is a straight emotional piece about big pharm, agenda driven.
It has been years since I have researched big pharma, but when I did, I had no problems with them. They drive the research for drugs that do save lives and take on the burden of both research and legal woes. Litigation also costs an arm and a leg if a problem on the smaller research scale did not arise. It also costs quite a bit in litigation to protect their patented rights. Lastly they are a private organization and have the right to produce and sell at whatever price point they wish, especially if generic drug companies undercut their bottom line.Completly agenda driven, no argument. But I loathe big pharma, maybe the infographic was not the best, but i used it more in terms of a statement then concrete reasoning.
Which summarizes my problem. I understand they do the work they deserve the money, but the money is HUGE.I highly doubt Big Pharma cares. You know what, maybe the scientists do, maybe alot of employees do, maybe some of the top genetic/chemical scientists do...but the people in control dont. Its all about $$$
Ding Ding Motherf---ing ding. These people can care less what they do to your body as long as you are paying for it.Big Pharma is going downhill fast for the exact reason that Zero pointed out - they're run like a business rather than as a research facility. I know a couple of Prof's who left pharma because of that very issue.
One guy found a very important drug interaction with St. John's Wort (it upregulates Cyp3A if I recall correctly), wanted to publish his findings and had his whole board come after him because the company would have to change the labels of their drugs to include his discovery if he did publish. Very unethical.
Downhill how? Financially? Not likely. Ethically? arguably yes.Big Pharma is going downhill fast for the exact reason that Zero pointed out - they're run like a business rather than as a research facility.
THis is why I have issues with capitalism and "corporate america", of course the only way to fix that issue now is through a political war based revolution, world war III, or the Rapture....Downhill how? Financially? Not likely. Ethically? arguably yes.
That said it is totally unfair to exclusively pick on Big Pharma. You can talk about any large corporation and the parallels will be the same. They are all 100% profit driven and are only held in check by regulation. Consequently which is why they allocate large sums for lobbying to get regulations changed in their favor.
Additionally it seems that this psychopathic and narcissistic corporate behavior rubs off on long term employees who then conduct themselves the same way.
A good read on the subject is Joel Bakan's 'The Corporation.' There is also a documentary by the same name that is a reasonable substitute.
Many people believe we have cures for things such as cancer and aids......its just there is no money in a cure....its a one time fee....whereas treatment- neverendingI highly doubt Big Pharma cares. You know what, maybe the scientists do, maybe alot of employees do, maybe some of the top genetic/chemical scientists do...but the people in control dont. Its all about $$$. I am a firm believer that many potential cures have been "suppressed" do to entire companies losing out on an entire line of profit.
Its like that redneck fella down in Georgia who invented an add on that works for almost any engine(forgot what it was) and posted it on the internet. It allowed his pickup to get about 60-80 MPG. It keeps vanishing, servers drop him, or it is straight deleted. He admits he has also been threatened and cited. I will have to get the info on him again, and his video(since nothing once it hits the net is ever erasable). I have seen him, and the invention, and the science was sound.
I tell you I would not put it past Big Pharma, or the auto industry, or banking industry, or oil industry to slit a mans throat to protect profits...literally slit it that is, and I am sure they have.
Some very complicated questions my friend.THis is why I have issues with capitalism and "corporate america", of course the only way to fix that issue now is through a political war based revolution, world war III, or the Rapture....
Modifications of other systems for certain parts of our society have benefits that far outweigh the negatives and risks considering that our "democracy" which we are supposed to be a republic anyways is already proven to be a "failure" and is now coming up on its end. What will the next form be, how will it be structured? Unsure, but if capitalism needs fixed. It started as a decent system, but capitalism + technology +easy contact/transport worldwide does not equal a good thing... it allows megacorps to destroy anything else, and once they have a monopoly, they can toy and play around with the populace as they please.
Its a race to see which comes first:bigok:
I believe this to an extent. I don't believe they can cure all cancers, etc..But I am sure there are illnesses that they could cure for $500, or put you on maintenance medication for $125/month for the rest of your life. What looks better to the companies bottom line?Many people believe we have cures for things such as cancer and aids......its just there is no money in a cure....its a one time fee....whereas treatment- neverending
Its already the 2nd highest rate in the developed world and it doesnt seem to be working. http://alhambrainvestments.com/blog/2009/01/29/corporate-tax-rates-by-country-oecd/Potential solutions are obvious but implementing them are nearly impossible. More progressive taxation on the wealthy and corporations could limit corporate size.
By progressive I meant as corporate profits increase so should the tax rate. Regardless, it is not really feasible for the same reason that the US corporate tax rate isn't really relevant. Large corps nowadays are usually multinational - which means they are, depending on how they structure cash flows, able to minimize tax payments.Its already the 2nd highest rate in the developed world and it doesnt seem to be working. http://alhambrainvestments.com/blog/2009/01/29/corporate-tax-rates-by-country-oecd/
Possibly but if you follow this argument to its beginning should we conclude that it is pointless to collect any taxes? Obviously no; there should be some optimum.More taxes= more clever ways of hiding assets and income.
Limiting corporate 'size' would not mean firing people. It would just have to be split into different independent companies. As for executive compensation, no the government cannot force them to take pay cuts. However, progressive taxation at higher income levels would apply more downward pressure.'limiting corporate size' means ALL corporations; maybe even some you like, or your friends and family work for and are relying on for a retirement. How can you 'limit corporate size' without firing people?(yeah, I know. Have the Government force execs to take pay cuts. I dont like "greedy" ceo's anymore than the next guy, but I dont want the state that powerfull)
I personaly like Organic Valley and Whole Foods; they're corporations. Now I wouldnt mind seeing some of the pharma and oil companies be restricted on lobbying/advertising(drugs), and be accountable for price gauging or monopolization. But once we start painting with such a broad brush, I believe the amount of decent corps. ultimatly hurt would outweigh the benefits of punishing a handfull of unpopular ones.
Not any more so than those who are chronically anti-government. :rasp:Everyone sounds so conspiracy fatalist... brainwashed into hating any concept of big corp.
:clap2:Not any more so than those who are chronically anti-government. :rasp:
A Touche'. If only I was anti gov though..... anti Big Gov there my man... Bigdifference.Not any more so than those who are chronically anti-government. :rasp:
ohhhhhhhhhhhh... I see what you did there... clever.:clap2:
Hence the FDA blockade is one of the predominant money pits.You don't pay for them to manufacture the drug.
You pay for them to develop the drug.
Estimates about the cost of developing a new drug vary widely, from a low of $800 million to nearly $2 billion per drug.
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