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Building Back Up

You mean nothing else like just straight Cluster Dextrin? Idk of any off the top of my head, I use Nutrabio a lot and I know @sns8778 has shared Gaspari Glycofuse sales with me before, but both of those have added electrolytes.

Nutrabio for me as well

Glycofuse is reportedly a fine product, but after Gaspari stole my money and many others years back with their amino-spiked protein powder that was less than half actual protein as claimed, I will never give them my money again. People don’t forget, & I certainly won’t forgive that shitbag.

Thanks. Yeah, I've seen those, I'm just wary of using electrolyte powders due to being on telmisartan and all the warnings about supplemental potassium.

I was drinking a ton of milk my last 2 bulks while also taking 80mg telmisartan daily, and my potassium on bloodwork was always fine (4.5 I believe last time). YMMV, but a few hundred extra mg 4x a week probably isn’t going to push you over the line. It’s usually people with large daily vegetable intake or atypical responders that see unacceptable potassium level increases on Telmisartan.

I’m not a doctor, just sharing my personal experience and anecdotes I’ve heard.
 
Thanks. Yeah, I've seen those, I'm just wary of using electrolyte powders due to being on telmisartan and all the warnings about supplemental potassium.

The Gaspari one only has 76 mg. of Potassium which is next to nothing.

I'm not a huge fan of Gaspari, but I trust it to meet label claims and I bought a bunch of the lemon flavor at a great price and it mixes good with everything. I use Recover EAA from Innovapharm and they have a Iced Tea flavor that mixes great with it.

I don't change brands a lot on this because I know there are a lot of brands that don't meet label claims on HBCD. I trust Nutrabio like some others have mentioned to meet label claims, for some reason I just can't deal with the taste of theirs on this particular product. Not a knock on them, just a personal taste preference.
 
The Gaspari one only has 76 mg. of Potassium which is next to nothing.

I'm not a huge fan of Gaspari, but I trust it to meet label claims and I bought a bunch of the lemon flavor at a great price and it mixes good with everything. I use Recover EAA from Innovapharm and they have a Iced Tea flavor that mixes great with it.

I don't change brands a lot on this because I know there are a lot of brands that don't meet label claims on HBCD. I trust Nutrabio like some others have mentioned to meet label claims, for some reason I just can't deal with the taste of theirs on this particular product. Not a knock on them, just a personal taste preference.

Not that it’s a cheap product or just HBCD, but have you tried their Sweet Tea flavored Leg Day? Seems like it would combo well with either of the two products you mentioned, if you liked the profile of Leg Day.
 
The Gaspari one only has 76 mg. of Potassium which is next to nothing.

I'm not a huge fan of Gaspari, but I trust it to meet label claims and I bought a bunch of the lemon flavor at a great price and it mixes good with everything. I use Recover EAA from Innovapharm and they have a Iced Tea flavor that mixes great with it.

I don't change brands a lot on this because I know there are a lot of brands that don't meet label claims on HBCD. I trust Nutrabio like some others have mentioned to meet label claims, for some reason I just can't deal with the taste of theirs on this particular product. Not a knock on them, just a personal taste preference.
Considering why @Hyde mentioned, it would be hard to give Gaspari money. I'll look at Nutrabio though. Thanks. But, I'd prefer to just buy yours when you come out with it 😆
 
Not that it’s a cheap product or just HBCD, but have you tried their Sweet Tea flavored Leg Day? Seems like it would combo well with either of the two products you mentioned, if you liked the profile of Leg Day.

I don't like the profile of it for me, so I haven't tried it. Its a good product and I think its fine for a lot of people, but it only has 8.6 grams of EAA's in it and one of the reasons I like Recover EAA is that it has 14.4 grams per scoop and a lot of times I'll take 2 scoops.

My normal routine is 2 scoops Recover EAA + 1 scoop HBCD and drink half of it 15 minutes prior to training and sip on the rest of it during training.
 
Considering why @Hyde mentioned, it would be hard to give Gaspari money. I'll look at Nutrabio though. Thanks. But, I'd prefer to just buy yours when you come out with it 😆

In context, the thing with the protein spiking thing back 10+ years ago is that almost every company at the time was doing that. It wasn't specific to just 1 or 2 companies being nefarious and trying to rip people off - the way a lot of the companies were doing it was legally allowable by labeling law - so unethical, yes, but illegal, no. So the issue was that since literally almost every major protein brand was doing it at the time, any other brand wanting to offer protein kind of had to follow suit to be competitive.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not defending Gaspari and I'm not a fan of them as a brand; its just a good tasting HBCD that I do trust the quality of and stocked up on on sale last fall. I'm just not going to beat up on them for something that was industry norm at the time.
 
In context, the thing with the protein spiking thing back 10+ years ago is that almost every company at the time was doing that. It wasn't specific to just 1 or 2 companies being nefarious and trying to rip people off - the way a lot of the companies were doing it was legally allowable by labeling law - so unethical, yes, but illegal, no. So the issue was that since literally almost every major protein brand was doing it at the time, any other brand wanting to offer protein kind of had to follow suit to be competitive.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not defending Gaspari and I'm not a fan of them as a brand; its just a good tasting HBCD that I do trust the quality of and stocked up on on sale last fall. I'm just not going to beat up on them for something that was industry norm at the time.
I hear ya...basically it's just business...but they ain't getting mine 😆
 
Seated DB Press 4 x 10/9/8/8 x 75's
Dips 11, 10, 9
Incline DB Press 4 x 8 x 50's
Lateral DB Raise 3 x 15/15/25 x 8's
Triceps Pressdowns 3 x 10/10/9 x 44
Overhead Cable Extensions 3 x 9/8/8 x 22
Upright Row 2 x 8 x 30

Reps going down. Like I thought yesterday, cutting diet is kicking in. Training isn't as fun 😕
I wonder how much more I can increase my carbs/kcal and still lose weight...
Weight: 217.2

Seated DB Press 4 x 9/8/8/10 x 75's
Incline DB Press 3 x 9/9/8 x 50's
Dips 9, 9, 8
Lateral Raise 3 x 15 x 10's
Upright Row 2 x 12 x 30
Triceps Pressdowns 3 x 8/8/8 x 22

Weighed less then last week but still hit same reps and weights.
 
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Nice work!
 
I hear ya...basically it's just business...but they ain't getting mine 😆

No, that's not what I said at all.

I talk about quality and transparency in this industry more than anyone else on this forum - but I'm also all about fairness - and in all fairness to many of the companies accused of it back then, most were actually following the label guidelines at the time. Do I agree with the way the labeling guidelines were at the time? No. But I'm not going to bash on large companies for following labeling guidelines and labeling their products in a way that their attorneys were likely telling them to at the time.

Some of the brands that got caught up in the confusion back then are some of the ones that led the push for the transparency in protein labeling laws that we have now days.

Context is important - and in context, talking about protein spiking in 2024 is completely different than talking about protein spiking in 2013 when the laws were different and lacked a clear definition as to whether aminos were or weren't supposed to be listed as a protein.

I didn't defend Gaspari at all - I'm not a fan of the brand in general, but I do use their HBCD bc I trust it to meet label claims and got it at a good price.

On the other hand, I tried another brand that people on here hype sometimes and wound up at the doctor bc I'm allergic to gluten and it had so much in it that I had to go to the doctor bc of it - and there's zero reason that HBCD should have any gluten in it at all, so that's a brand that I will never use anything by again.

There's stuff that goes on with protein powders now days that makes the protein spiking thing look like nothing in comparison, as there's brands now days that just straight are lying about their macros.
 
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There's stuff that goes on with protein powders now days that makes the protein spiking thing look like nothing in comparison, as there's brands now days that just straight are lying about their macros.

Same result in either scenario: I don’t get the nutrition I was counting on, and I’m overpaying for it to add insult. I don’t believe the spikers following the old regulations of the time have any moral high ground 🤷‍♂️

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Same result in either scenario: I don’t get the nutrition I was counting on, and I’m overpaying for it to add insult. I don’t believe the spikers following the old regulations of the time have any moral high ground 🤷‍♂️

From the nutrition standpoint, it may be the same - but from an intent standpoint, very different.

What a lot of people don't realize is that back then, there was conflicting guidelines as to whether amino acids were supposed to be labeled as protein intake. There were literally brands with EAA's that had gotten soft warnings about not declaring their product to contain a protein content on the nutrition panel.

There was a lot of confusion as to whether brands were or weren't supposed to declare amino acid content as protein on the product labels. So in the case of some of the brands, if their compliance attorneys are telling them to declare it as protein and they're declaring it as protein, it still is deceiving to customers, but the lack of definitive labeling guidelines was also deceiving and confusing as hell for brands.

If you started a company during that time and you got a price from a contract manufacturer for a protein powder, you may truly not have known about the amino acid issue - bc the cm would have been giving you label specs/supplement facts and then you were supposed to have your compliance attorney review it and then you apply it to your labels accordingly.

That was the issue - that by law, it was legal to label them that way at the time - and some of the brands that got **** on for it likely didn't even know it was happening. Did the big brands? Sure. Were there brands that did it to intentionally cut costs? Sure. But were there some brands that thought they were being given the correct info by their cm and doing the right thing by having their attorney review it and that got caught up in it having no idea they were doing anything wrong? Absolutely.

That's all I'm saying. It wasn't the big conspiracy that some industry sites made it out to be; there was a lot of legitimate confusion back then bc of mixed signals as to how the FDA wanted amino acids labeled at the time.

^^^ all of that is very different than what I was saying about some companies now days blatantly lying about their macros - not because of any type of labeling guideline confusion, but bc they're shady scammers that are intentionally mislabeling products claiming to have more protein and less sugar than they actually do. That's what I mean about 2 completely different contexts.

If you want to discuss it further, you're welcome to text me and I'll be glad to go into more details.

This is one of those times where I thought I was trying to be informative and explain something that people may be interested in and it seems like its just getting taken the wrong way.

Bc I am in no way defending Gaspari on anything bc I can promise everyone reading I have reasons to dislike them that go well beyond anyone else on here's reasons for disliking them.

I simply use their HBCD product bc it tastes good, I got it on sale, and its real HBCD. I had tried a brand previously that wound up not being all HBCD like it claimed, and then another brand that is well liked here by some people and it had gluten in it - which is super f'd up because its labeled as gluten free and there's no reason gluten should ever even be in an HBCD product to begin with. I dislike Gaspari myself - but not nearly as much as the company that put me in the hospital by putting gluten in an HBCD product that they specifically labeled as gluten free.
 
Weight: 218.4

Neutral Grip Pullup 5 x 5 x BW
Squat 5x225, 5x275, 5x295, 5x315
Cable Row/Shrug 10x110, 2 x 10 x 115.5
Facepulls 2 x 10 x 16.5
Single Leg Curls 2 x 8 x 45
Incline DB Curl 3 x 10/8/6 x 25's
Kettlebell Farmer's Walks 3 x 45m x 70's

New top set for Squat! Last 2-3 reps were more hingy then squatty, but still got it.
Weight: 217.2

Squat 5x225, 3x275, 1x315, 1x335, 1x355, 1x365
Straight Bar Pullup 4, 4, 3, 3, 2 + 5 negatives
Neutral Grip Pullup 5
Single Leg Hamstring Curl 3 x 8 x 45
Cable Shrug/Row 3 x 8 x 110
Kettlebell Farmer's Walks 3 x 20m/15m/20m x 70's
Incline DB Curl 3 x 8/8/6 x 27.5's
Cable Mid-Row 3 x 10 x 61.6

I recorded the 2 top squat PR's for critiquing, but since they are .3gp format, I have to figure out how to convert it I guess. Argh. Form wasn't perfect, but I'll save my own judgments until I hear y'alls when I post it.
 
So, after doing a few minutes of looking around, there's 18 million apps and websites to convert videos. Does anyone have any suggestions of something they've used successfully that won't give me a virus or steal my criptoes? Lol
 
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So, after doing a few minutes of looking around, there's 18 million apps and websites to convert videos. Does anyone have any suggestions of something they've used successfully the wrong give me a virus or steal my criptoes? Lol
Seems like most of the videos I’ve seen they have a YouTube and then just post a link. Other then that I really don’t know.
 
So, after doing a few minutes of looking around, there's 18 million apps and websites to convert videos. Does anyone have any suggestions of something they've used successfully the wrong give me a virus or steal my criptoes? Lol
If an I phone any app that can do it from the appstore. They are pretty tight on the security for their apps before they allow them on the store.
 
Ohhh... no youtube for me.

@MrKleen73 it's an android.
On android as long as you got a paid for app you will likely be okay, but the free ones are more likely to have intrusive behavior. Now if you have a youtube/google account you can upload it privately then download it from there so no one else on youtube ever gets to see it. I think it comes down as an MP4 automatically.
 
On android as long as you got a paid for app you will likely be okay, but the free ones are more likely to have intrusive behavior. Now if you have a youtube/google account you can upload it privately then download it from there so no one else on youtube ever gets to see it. I think it comes down as an MP4 automatically.
Gotcha, I'll try this. Thanks.
 
Weight: 217.2

Squat 5x225, 3x275, 1x315, 1x335, 1x355, 1x365
Straight Bar Pullup 4, 4, 3, 3, 2 + 5 negatives
Neutral Grip Pullup 5
Single Leg Hamstring Curl 3 x 8 x 45
Cable Shrug/Row 3 x 8 x 110
Kettlebell Farmer's Walks 3 x 20m/15m/20m x 70's
Incline DB Curl 3 x 8/8/6 x 27.5's
Cable Mid-Row 3 x 10 x 61.6

I recorded the 2 top squat PR's for critiquing, but since they are .3gp format, I have to figure out how to convert it I guess. Argh. Form wasn't perfect, but I'll save my own judgments until I hear y'alls when I post it.

moving some weight!!
 
Weight: 218.2 (I think, or 218.4)

Low Incline DB Press 4 x 8/8/8/7 x 85's
Dips 8, 8, 10
Roc-It OHP 3 x 8/8/6 x 218
Lateral Raise 3 x 15 x 10's
Skullcrushers 4 x 8/8/8/7 x 60
Weight: 217.2

Low Incline DB Press 3 x 8/8/6 x 85's
Roc-It OHP 3 x 8 x 218
Dips 3 x 8
Lateral Raise 3 x 12 x 12.5's
Skullcrushers 3 x 6 x 60

Slept like trash, and feel like trash. Reduced effort a little on things once I hit early failure on that third set of DB Press. Thought I was over this garbage.
 
Weight: 217.2

Low Incline DB Press 3 x 8/8/6 x 85's
Roc-It OHP 3 x 8 x 218
Dips 3 x 8
Lateral Raise 3 x 12 x 12.5's
Skullcrushers 3 x 6 x 60

Slept like trash, and feel like trash. Reduced effort a little on things once I hit early failure on that third set of DB Press. Thought I was over this garbage.
Don't let a couple rough days get in your head. You just keep doing what you can and you will keep making progress.
 
Slept like trash, and feel like trash. Reduced effort a little on things once I hit early failure on that third set of DB Press. Thought I was over this garbage.

that's weird man, last night I had a hard time getting quality sleep too. When I finally did drift off, my dog decided to sleep beside me which is super unusual for her. When the alarm went off at 4:30am she ran to the edge of the bed and projectile vomited everywhere, lol.
 
that's weird man, last night I had a hard time getting quality sleep too. When I finally did drift off, my dog decided to sleep beside me which is super unusual for her. When the alarm went off at 4:30am she ran to the edge of the bed and projectile vomited everywhere, lol.
Bad Girl! I said fetch, not retch!!!
 
Weight: 217.4

Traditional DL 3x315, 3x345, 3x375, 3x390, 3x405
Back Extensions 3 x 5
Mid-Row Machine 10x245, 3 x 8/9/8 x 265
Reverse Pec Deck 3 x 10 x 30
Shrug Machine 3 x 10 x 170
Hammer Curls 3 x 10 x 30's

Finally got 405 for 3 reps. A little ugly on the first rep, but got it.
Weight: 216.4

Traditional DL 1x315, 1x365, 1x395, 1x415, 1x425
Mid-Row Machine 10x245, 3 x 8/6/9 x 265
Shrug Machine 10x170, 3 x 10 x 230
Reverse Pec Deck 3 x 11/10/12 x 30
Hammer Curls 3 x 11/10/6 x 30's
Double Cable Row 3 x 10 x 60

New current weight DL PR. I think. I don't recall what I did a year ago but I think it was 415 then.
 
Congrats! You are really picking up some steam! Keep it up!
 
Weight: 216.4

Traditional DL 1x315, 1x365, 1x395, 1x415, 1x425
Mid-Row Machine 10x245, 3 x 8/6/9 x 265
Shrug Machine 10x170, 3 x 10 x 230
Reverse Pec Deck 3 x 11/10/12 x 30
Hammer Curls 3 x 11/10/6 x 30's
Double Cable Row 3 x 10 x 60

New current weight DL PR. I think. I don't recall what I did a year ago but I think it was 415 then.
Congrats on the PR!
 
Weight: 217.2

Seated DB Press 4 x 9/8/8/10 x 75's
Incline DB Press 3 x 9/9/8 x 50's
Dips 9, 9, 8
Lateral Raise 3 x 15 x 10's
Upright Row 2 x 12 x 30
Triceps Pressdowns 3 x 8/8/8 x 22

Weighed less then last week but still hit same reps and weights.
Weight: 216.0

Seated DB Press 4 x 9/8/8/8 x 75's
Incline DB Press 3 x 9 x 50's
Lateral Raise 3 x 12 x 15's
Upright Row 2 x 10 x 30
Close Grip Pushup 3 x 8
SS w/
Triceps Pressdown 3 x 8
Overhead Extensions 3 x 8 x 22

Feeling sluggish.
 
Weight: 217.2

Squat 5x225, 3x275, 1x315, 1x335, 1x355, 1x365
Straight Bar Pullup 4, 4, 3, 3, 2 + 5 negatives
Neutral Grip Pullup 5
Single Leg Hamstring Curl 3 x 8 x 45
Cable Shrug/Row 3 x 8 x 110
Kettlebell Farmer's Walks 3 x 20m/15m/20m x 70's
Incline DB Curl 3 x 8/8/6 x 27.5's
Cable Mid-Row 3 x 10 x 61.6

I recorded the 2 top squat PR's for critiquing, but since they are .3gp format, I have to figure out how to convert it I guess. Argh. Form wasn't perfect, but I'll save my own judgments until I hear y'alls when I post it.
Safety Bar Squat 5x140+bar, 5x160+bar, 2 x 5 x 180+bar
Neutral Grip Pullup 6, 5, 5, 5, 5
Back Extensions 10, 10
Cable Shrug/Row 3 x 10 x something
Barbell Curls 3 x 10/7/7 x 50
DB Farmers Walks 3 x 45m x 100's

Pullups felt great. Better then last time by 1 rep, but felt "cleaner".

@Hyde Today I did the back extensions with a higher angle, and it was significantly easier. Next time I'll do more, just crunched for time today.
 
Safety Bar Squat 5x140+bar, 5x160+bar, 2 x 5 x 180+bar
Neutral Grip Pullup 6, 5, 5, 5, 5
Back Extensions 10, 10
Cable Shrug/Row 3 x 10 x something
Barbell Curls 3 x 10/7/7 x 50
DB Farmers Walks 3 x 45m x 100's

Pullups felt great. Better then last time by 1 rep, but felt "cleaner".

You and Hyde have really motivated me to bring these back on my back days. the way pull-ups hit the lasts feel so much more effective lately than the normal rows I've been doing, the different angle is fantastic.
 
You and Hyde have really motivated me to bring these back on my back days. the way pull-ups hit the lasts feel so much more effective lately than the normal rows I've been doing, the different angle is fantastic.

Pull-ups are better than any other single exercise for vertical pulling. All of the cables & machines are just ancillary, easier, or specialized alternatives.
 
Weight: 217.2

Low Incline DB Press 3 x 8/8/6 x 85's
Roc-It OHP 3 x 8 x 218
Dips 3 x 8
Lateral Raise 3 x 12 x 12.5's
Skullcrushers 3 x 6 x 60

Slept like trash, and feel like trash. Reduced effort a little on things once I hit early failure on that third set of DB Press. Thought I was over this garbage.
Weight: 224.4 😆

Low Incline DB Press 4 x 7/6/6/5 x 90's
Roc-It OHP 3 x 8/8/10 x 218
Dips 3 x 10/9/9
Seated Lateral Raise 3 x 15 x 5's
Skullcrushers 3 x 9/8/8 x 60
Upright Row 2 x 15 x 30

Decided to see what I could do with the 90's on Incline Press. Totaled 24 reps which is fine, but hoped for more. Doubtful I'll try those again next week.

Weight is up 8 pounds from the weekend. Reeling it in until the superbowl. Goal is 214-215 by then.

Edit: didn't want to leave yet, so tossed in 2 sets of Upright Row for the little baby delts.
 
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Pull-ups are better than any other single exercise for vertical pulling. All of the cables & machines are just ancillary, easier, or specialized alternatives.

most of my post DL pulling work in the last year+ is row variations rather than from overhead, so that change has been a minor shock to the system and I think giving decent results in terms of hypertrophy (I think)
 
most of my post DL pulling work in the last year+ is row variations rather than from overhead, so that change has been a minor shock to the system and I think giving decent results in terms of hypertrophy (I think)

Yeah I’m coming from a hypertrophy and possibly bench press standpoint. I can say the size of my upper back and bench is greater than ever in correlation with pullup strength, but my deadlift is not.

I am not blaming the chin-ups for me not training the deadlift maximally, just that I don’t consider chin-ups to be obviously correlated with the deadlift particularly.
 
Yeah I’m coming from a hypertrophy and possibly bench press standpoint. I can say the size of my upper back and bench is greater than ever in correlation with pullup strength, but my deadlift is not.

I am not blaming the chin-ups for me not training the deadlift maximally, just that I don’t consider chin-ups to be obviously correlated with the deadlift particularly.
Ya I've always had rowing variations as more of deadlift "accessory/assistance", with pull ups more as a back builder and a big player in all the various gymnastic-centric pulling movements.

that's exactly my thought, perfect summary @Resolve10
 
Why wouldn't you press the 90's again next week? Did it tear you up or something?
 
Weight: 216.4

Traditional DL 1x315, 1x365, 1x395, 1x415, 1x425
Mid-Row Machine 10x245, 3 x 8/6/9 x 265
Shrug Machine 10x170, 3 x 10 x 230
Reverse Pec Deck 3 x 11/10/12 x 30
Hammer Curls 3 x 11/10/6 x 30's
Double Cable Row 3 x 10 x 60

New current weight DL PR. I think. I don't recall what I did a year ago but I think it was 415 then.
Weight: 218.4

Traditional DL 4 x 4/4/4/3 x 365
Mid-Row Machine 4 x 8 x 245
Single Leg Curls 2 x 8 x 45 (plus extra set left leg)
Shrug Machine 3 x 8 x 230 (+1 dropset)
Reverse Pec Deck 3 x 10 x 30
Incline DB Curls 2 x 10 x 25's
Hammer Curls 2 x 6 x 25's

Slept great last night, but I've noticed the quality of my workouts and performance following a night using 3mg lunesta is lower than if I cut the lunesta in half.
 
Well no, I just didn't really hit the volume target I wanted. For years, I did 5x5, 4x4, 3x3, etc so this training year in changing it up and shooting for sets of >8.
Makes sense.
 
Weight: 217.4

Seated DB Press 4 x 9/9/9/8 x 75’s
Dips 3 x 8/8/9
Incline DB Press 3 x 8 x 50’s
DB Lateral Raise 3 x 12 x 10’s
Upright Row 2 x 12 x 30
Overhead Extension 3 x 12 x something
 
Safety Bar Squat 5x140+bar, 5x160+bar, 2 x 5 x 180+bar
Neutral Grip Pullup 6, 5, 5, 5, 5
Back Extensions 10, 10
Cable Shrug/Row 3 x 10 x something
Barbell Curls 3 x 10/7/7 x 50
DB Farmers Walks 3 x 45m x 100's

Pullups felt great. Better then last time by 1 rep, but felt "cleaner".

@Hyde Today I did the back extensions with a higher angle, and it was significantly easier. Next time I'll do more, just crunched for time today.
Safety Bar Squat 5x140+bar, 5x160+bar, 5xbar+180, 2 x 4 x bar+200
Back Extension 6, 5, 5
NG Pullup 6, 5, 5, 5, 5 + 2 negatives
Wide Grip Cable Shrug/Row 3 x 8 x 50
KB Farmers 3 x 45m x 70’s
Incline DB Curls 4 x 10/6/5/4 x 25’s
 
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Found out the safety bar actually weighs 70lb. I knew it was a good bit heavier than the regular bar lol

Yeah most are 60-65, not surprised to hear that at all. Even the cheapest are usually at least 50-55. It’s a tough bar, but it will make you strong.
 
Yeah most are 60-65, not surprised to hear that at all. Even the cheapest are usually at least 50-55. It’s a tough bar, but it will make you strong.
When the first person told me it was 55, I was feeling pretty weak, so i was pleased to hear its 15 pounds heavier.
 
Weight: 224.4 😆

Low Incline DB Press 4 x 7/6/6/5 x 90's
Roc-It OHP 3 x 8/8/10 x 218
Dips 3 x 10/9/9
Seated Lateral Raise 3 x 15 x 5's
Skullcrushers 3 x 9/8/8 x 60
Upright Row 2 x 15 x 30

Decided to see what I could do with the 90's on Incline Press. Totaled 24 reps which is fine, but hoped for more. Doubtful I'll try those again next week.

Weight is up 8 pounds from the weekend. Reeling it in until the superbowl. Goal is 214-215 by then.

Edit: didn't want to leave yet, so tossed in 2 sets of Upright Row for the little baby delts.
Weight: 219.0

Low Incline DB Press 4 x 6 x 90’s
Roc-It OHP 3 x 9/9/8 x 218
Dips 3 x 10/10/9
DB Lateral Raise 3 x 15/15/12 x 10’s
Skullcrushers 3 x 10/8/8 x 50
EZ Upright Row 3 x 12 x 40

@MrKleen73 decided to still use the 90’s for db press. Form felt better today then last week too, I might keep it up for a couple more weeks until the vacation week.

Still having trouble keeping that left shoulder down on lateral raise and upright row.
 
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