Best ZMA product

Im pretty sure ZMA is a trademarked formula, so technically they should all be the same. Otherwise I have heard great things about ZMK, but I have never tried it personally.
 
no problem man.

There are lot of good ZMA or ZMA based products out there.

I just recommend buying them from Nutraplanet.
 
just buy the cheapest you can find(primaforce)

or you can go with zmk
as others have said

but i ask the others, what does zmk achieve beyond regular zma?
 
ari4216 said:
just buy the cheapest you can find(primaforce)

or you can go with zmk
as others have said

but i ask the others, what does zmk achieve beyond regular zma?
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the only difference i believe is that it has minerals with it. u could just take a multi vitamin with your zma. i don't know what the difference would be.

i take NOW adams multi which has zma in it. better than buying both i would say
 
testojack 100 by NOW Foods is off the hook. not only is it a good ZMA product, but the extras thrown in make for things popping up within minutes, if you know what i mean. inconvenient in public places. hahaha.
 
Imeniaan said:
zma doesn't work, well, a couple of studies say so.
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it works for shure

dont take with milk and take it on an empty stomach, before bed

i definately notice when im not on it
but it takes a few weeks to go into effect, so you could not be on it for a month and then realize your stregth is down and youre not sleeping as well
 
Kristofer68SS said:
SNAC owns the copyright to ZMA.

Pretty much all the same i guess.
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I don't think that's right. I think the real copyright goes to Victor Conte and BALCO. He came up with it after he did a study of ( i believe the oakland raiders) and he saw they lacked these two minerals so came up with it.
 
i hate to admit it but..and i know people are gonna be mad...but GNC's brand of zma..knocked me the **** out everytime i took it. never grew tolerant of it. went to sleep almost exactly a half hour after taking it and i woke up so energized it was ridiculous. i'm sorry guys...other than that..stay away! lol
 
ari4216 said:
just buy the cheapest you can find(primaforce)

or you can go with zmk
as others have said

but i ask the others, what does zmk achieve beyond regular zma?
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zmk's blend is much more synergistic than zma blends around the bend. It is combined with an extensive krebs chelated mineral complex that restores of all the vitals, other than just zinc and magnesium, that you lose daily through extensive exercise and sports.

To the post right after this one : you wouldn't take a multi with a zma supp because they'd cancel each other out. Vitamins are meant to be taken by day...as minerals are to be taken by night. This is why many multi vitamins are not as effective...because they have minerals blocking the path of the vitamins. Same with night formulas. People are taking their zma (or zmk) too closely to foods that contain calcium, and it is drawing out all the effects of the minerals.

I hope this helped a bit. Zmk is your best choice ;)
 
I've never slept as deep as I have while on ZMK, EVER! Some of the craziest dreams also were with ZMK.

If you want to put yourself damn near COMA stack ZMK and AI's Stoked!
 
bigpapa said:
i hate to admit it but..and i know people are gonna be mad...but GNC's brand of zma..knocked me the **** out everytime i took it. never grew tolerant of it. went to sleep almost exactly a half hour after taking it and i woke up so energized it was ridiculous. i'm sorry guys...other than that..stay away! lol[/QUO

yeah ive tried their zma, your right its better. its the valerian and hops in there, plus its in a tablet formation
only if you can find it 50 percent of though!(30bucls)
other than that stay away from gnc
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I have taken ZMK, workd great, then I took ZMK, and it worked wonders!

ZMK FTW!!!!

I would say MST's ZMK ATW FTW!!!! dont you love our society of abbreviated language....

I also used it with somnidren GH, ooo that warm tingly feeling before you fall asleep....wonderful
 
Kristofer68SS said:
really?

is that your final answer?

Guru's............Sick him. lol
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yes final answer. the "study" done with zma is entirely questionable. you can also get your vitamins elsewhere and don't need zma. the supplement is pushed so hard but imo it is total garbage. you are going to pay for zinc, mag and b6 because a questionable study says it increases test? if your diet is good this supplement is entirely worthless to you.:bruce1:
 
whatevs it works bro, lots of people says it works

most of the american population doesnt get enough zinc in their diets.
people who train hard in the gym need even more zinc than couch potatoes

on the other hand, we have lots of magnisum in our diets, however americans have high calcium intake bc everything is fortifies with calcium.
therefore the magnisium we eat is not absorbed because of calcium

which is why you cant take zma with milk
and you must do this to reap the benefits, and you must also take it on an empty stomach
 
ari4216 said:
whatevs it works bro, lots of people says it works

most of the american population doesnt get enough zinc in their diets.
people who train hard in the gym need even more zinc than couch potatoes

on the other hand, we have lots of magnisum in our diets, however americans have high calcium intake bc everything is fortifies with calcium.
therefore the magnisium we eat is not absorbed because of calcium

which is why you cant take zma with milk
and you must do this to reap the benefits, and you must also take it on an empty stomach
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most of the american population isn't on bodybuilding message boards nor follow good diet plans as many who are into bodybuilding do.

follow a good eating plan, get your hormones tested, go on ZMA for 2 months have your hormones tested again. i'm sure you will see no change.
 
clownbaby said:
most of the american population isn't on bodybuilding message boards nor follow good diet plans as many who are into bodybuilding do.

follow a good eating plan, get your hormones tested, go on ZMA for 2 months have your hormones tested again. i'm sure you will see no change.
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that is not what its for. it is not supposed to boost your hormones or hormone product, thus it is not a hormonal product. the product was developed by victor conti and BALCO for professional football players because he did a study and noticed the athletes were missing zinc and magnesium which are critical in muscle recovery. and it also promotes good sleep. he added some b6 in there and bam, got a really good supplement. it does not directly increase your test levels..but it has the possibility
Studies show that by supplementing your diet with specific amounts of zinc and magnesium, you can elevate testosterone levels by as much as 30 percent. Balco Labs has conducted research to determine the exact amount of zinc and magnesium required to replenish an athlete's stores of these precious minerals. Their studies have just been accepted for publication in Sports Medicine, Training, and Rehabilitation Journal. Furthermore, Balco Labs has conducted exhaustive tests with 21 professional bodybuilders and most of the Denver Broncos football team, and all their findings have confirmed Balco Labs' theories. Based on their findings, Balco Labs developed a supplement, called "ZMA." They've also been able to determine that the best dose is 30 mg of zinc and 450 mg of magnesium taken once per day (three capsules taken between dinner and bed time)
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so...it works.
 
ya i guess 28 person study is a logical sample size (rolls eyes)


"Another study in 2004 conducted jointly by the Exercise & Sport Nutrition Lab of Baylor University, IMAGINutrition, and the Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition, found that ZMA has no effect on strength, hormone levels, or anaerobic capacity."

^ Wilborn Colin D. et al (2004). "Effects of Zinc Magnesium Aspartate (ZMA) Supplementation on Training Adaptations and Markers of Anabolism and Catabolism". Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition 1 (2): 12–20. doi:10.1186/1550-2783-1-2-12.
 
clownbaby said:
ya i guess 28 person study is a logical sample size (rolls eyes)


"Another study in 2004 conducted jointly by the Exercise & Sport Nutrition Lab of Baylor University, IMAGINutrition, and the Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition, found that ZMA has no effect on strength, hormone levels, or anaerobic capacity."

^ Wilborn Colin D. et al (2004). "Effects of Zinc Magnesium Aspartate (ZMA) Supplementation on Training Adaptations and Markers of Anabolism and Catabolism". Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition 1 (2): 12–20. doi:10.1186/1550-2783-1-2-12.
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listen...moron..we're not talking about increasing strength or hormone levels. we are all aware that's not what it does. it REPLACES two essential minerals that active people need. what are you not getting about that? this guy asked for a simple suggestion on what ZMA product to purchase and we tried to give him them. then u came along saying it sucks. maybe it didn't work for you. maybe you train like a pussy i don't know. but riding in here on your high horse after maybe being a month on this board..with no rep points and it's obvious..completely taking down a proven product is just stupid. we've all used it. we know it works. i'm using it again know and am having great sleep on it. just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it sucks. can you go with taking zma? of course. can it make a difference? of course. each side can find articles supporting or negating its effects for hours. saying a proven, well liked supplement sucks...not cool...we're not talking about Muscletech products here...
 
Actually, clownbaby is right, that study is very very small and not enough to judge a supplement, let alone to make a decision about anything.

However, since I've been taking ZMA for a couple/few months and have enough for 6 months and I love the effects which are:

-Better Sleep

-Sh*t every morning (this is because of the magnesium, a lot of people on Atkins, Paleo diets, etc... also supplement with magnesium, considering I only eat meat, no fruits, vegetables or grains, this is a good benefit.

-better overall being.

-I need the extra zinc because I lose more than average.
 
Whether it works or not is up for debate; there's many factors involved (Diet, Exercise Level/Type, Genetics, etc.) Zn and Mg deficiency has been shown to be present in various populations. For $0.25/day, I like the peace of mind knowing I get enough Zn & Mg.
 
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