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ksichampx

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Im looking to cut major and get into the best shape of my life. I'm 6'3" 220 but it's not a lean 220 I want it to be a lean cut weight though. I want to get on a good fat burner and something else that will show me results fast. I have been doing research on epistane but I'm not sure if it's good or not. Any suggestions?
 
Dude why did you make another thread??
 
If you wanna lose fat try Finaflex PX 500-xt...really good stuff...and everything depends on ur diet as well...
 
Have you heard of or tried epistane?? I've been thinking about tryin that I just haven't talked to anyone who has tried it yet
 
That's a ph...and idk of you ready for that one...
 
no need to touch any prohormones at your age (as others said in your other thread). wait until you're a bit older and have done enough time in terms of research before you even consider going that route. and again, eating properly in reference to your goals is always the key component to getting the results you want
 
OP, you are definitely not ready to use a prohormone/designer steroid like epistane. You'd need a whole lot more than a 'liver block' to run epi effectively and safely. :)

Get your diet in order, put in the time at the gym, toss in a thermogen and maybe a few other basic supps and you're good to go. One effective thermogen stack to consider would be the Invalid Link Removed available at Nutraplanet.
 
Want a solid product.. Slim FX... Good and clean energy with nice appetite suppression... Combine that with what the other guys wrote, about fixing the diet and training, and you're good to go.. Nutra got a pretty nice price on it now as well:
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allnatural923 said:
no need to touch any prohormones at your age (as others said in your other thread). wait until you're a bit older and have done enough time in terms of research before you even consider going that route. and again, eating properly in reference to your goals is always the key component to getting the results you want
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this x 2...just focus on great nutrition and basic supps man! There are no shortcuts unless your using iForce's hemavol! It's science :P
 
Few combos out there that can help once your diet is on point. DCP/Heat for a non-stim and Dexaprine/TT-33 for a full day of hyperness :D
 
Eizbear said:
Want a solid product.. Slim FX... Good and clean energy with nice appetite suppression... Combine that with what the other guys wrote, about fixing the diet and training, and you're good to go.. Nutra got a pretty nice price on it now as well:
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I prefer LeanFX from the AX line for appetite suppression; although, the two stack well with one another.
 
thesinner said:
I prefer LeanFX from the AX line for appetite suppression; although, the two stack well with one another.
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I always love to add AX Trisorb into any stack. Given the those two mentioned, would make the Trifecta
 
thesinner said:
how is heat stim-free?
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Servings per Container: 90
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[TD]Tyramine[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]100 mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**[/TD]
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[TD]Hordenine[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]50 mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**[/TD]
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[TD]Rauwolfia Serperntia Extract (30% Rauwolscine)[/TD]
[TD="align: right"] 30 mg[/TD]
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[TD]Green Coffee Bean Extract (50% Chlorogenic Acid)[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]200 mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**[/TD]
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[TD]Bergenin[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]200 mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**[/TD]
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[TD]TRPV-1 Thermogenic Complex Propietary Blend:
Raspberry Ketones, Evodiamine, Black Pepper Extract (20% Piperine), Capsiacin HCI
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[TD="align: right"]190 mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**[/TD]
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I know you will say it has Coffee Bean Extract and thats a stimulant. Not so with Green Coffee, your normal everyday coffee contains cafestol which gives you the stimulant effect, which is not present in green coffee beans.
 
punjabimunde said:
If you wanna lose fat try Finaflex PX 500-xt...really good stuff...and everything depends on ur diet as well...
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Agreed bro... Good shout!!! Pro XT is gun. Using it now and logging it Scott hooked up...sick as
 
I was going to go with alpha-yohimbine (i.e. rauwolscine), tyramine, hordenine, or Evodiamine (to a lesser extent)

vicesoldier said:
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Serving Size: capsule
Servings per Container: 90
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[TH="class: clm, align: center"]% Daily Value
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[TD]Tyramine
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[TD="align: right"]100 mg
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**
[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Hordenine
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]50 mg
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rauwolfia Serperntia Extract (30% Rauwolscine)
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]30 mg
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Green Coffee Bean Extract (50% Chlorogenic Acid)
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]200 mg
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bergenin
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]200 mg
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]TRPV-1 Thermogenic Complex Propietary Blend:
Raspberry Ketones, Evodiamine, Black Pepper Extract (20% Piperine), Capsiacin HCI
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]190 mg
[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]**
[/TD]
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I know you will say it has Coffee Bean Extract and thats a stimulant. Not so with Green Coffee, your normal everyday coffee contains cafestol which gives you the stimulant effect, which is not present in green coffee beans.
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thesinner said:
I was going to go with alpha-yohimbine (i.e. rauwolscine), tyramine, hordenine, or Evodiamine (to a lesser extent)
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Well Rauwolscine blocks your alpha-2 receptors just as much as yohimbine, but is 50 times less effective on alpha 1-adrenoceptors. Alpha 1 blockade also comes with side effects such as reduced blood pressure, jitters etc.(stim effect) Also know to kill adipose which is why it is in Heat(to raise body heat)

There is no caffeine in Tyramine

Hordenine works to increase lipolysis through norepinephrine modulation

Evodiamine just pretty much increases your overall resting core temperature

Unless your sensitive to any of these ingredients than their shouldn't be any stim effect on it
 
I really think Slim FX stacked with Lean FX would fit the OP very well here.

Provide some great stim effect, appetite control, cortisol control, etc. Would be very nice.
 
runner_79 said:
Agreed bro... Good shout!!! Pro XT is gun. Using it now and logging it Scott hooked up...sick as
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Seriously bro...I love PX 500-xt...I lost 8lbs in 4weeks...while keeping my size...and I still love the feeling of energy comes from pro xt....great stuff!!!
 
-Calculate your RMR. There are plenty of effective methods you can use such as Mifflin St.-Jeor, Cunningham, ect. Factor in your activity factor. Then establish a reasonable caloric deficit with an eating plan. There's much more to it then just that but it's a starting point. You can then add in things such as nutrient partitioner's, raspberry ketones, TTA, etc. From what I've read, you're not ready for a prohormones like epistane yet.
 
BB12 said:
I always love to add AX Trisorb into any stack. Given the those two mentioned, would make the Trifecta
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^^^This! Currently using Trisorb and on first hand, i thought i wouldn't be able to see any of it's effects but i was wrong. Taking a pretty lengthy stack right now and i believe the Trisorb has helped it feel like all clean energy and has helped everything serve its purpose better.
 
punjabimunde said:
Seriously bro...I love PX 500-xt...I lost 8lbs in 4weeks...while keeping my size...and I still love the feeling of energy comes from pro xt....great stuff!!!
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500-xt WORKS!!! Great stuff I second it
 
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