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Yeah, i'm kind of off dairy products now after doctor's advice, so even though i love mixing protein with milk, those days are over now....:(
Hate to tell people I told them so. I sound rude, but the truth isn't a comfy pillow lol. Use water man
 
You did not. These kids think protein Shakes are the magical gateway to gains. I think we should reinforce the fact that real food is and will always be better than a shake to gain muscle.

Put down the shakes, pick up the forks.

Definitely agree bud, when i was in college i kind of depended on shakes out of stupidity. Then when i started earning a salary i threw even more money at supplements to think it will get me to grow. Couldn't believe the changes i made to my body when i started just eating more quality food. But in saying that, i do think a good protein has a place in every guy's arsenal. Unfortunately, like with most things, you have to learn this lesson yourself if you're a young kid
 
Definitely agree bud, when i was in college i kind of depended on shakes out of stupidity. Then when i started earning a salary i threw even more money at supplements to think it will get me to grow. Couldn't believe the changes i made to my body when i started just eating more quality food. But in saying that, i do think a good protein has a place in every guy's arsenal. Unfortunately, like with most things, you have to learn this lesson yourself if you're a young kid
Lmao yup. All these guys will learn. Protein does have its place, in food. Add a shake before a workout with water and your good. I'm 27 and have done all this ****.

All men will learn the same lessons, in different ways. Including weights
 
Yeah these guys got you squared away.... PES Vanilla is pretty much my go to when I find a sale, or PES has an Insider. Sometimes I'll pick up a tub of BodyLogix Whey at my local Meijer grocery store if I'm in a pinch.
 
I splurge on PES Select. Otherwise I just buy what's on sale as long as amino spiking isn't apparent and make it fit into my daily macros.
 
Lmao. I eat food man. Have a shake once a day. If that

I agree with you and I am in the same boat. One shake a day or less for me. However, in terms of body composition, it doesn't make a difference. But in terms of vitamins and minerals, food wins.

So that answers the question: "Is protein powder as good as whole food when it comes to improving body composition and performance?" Yes

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I agree with you and I am in the same boat. One shake a day or less for me. However, in terms of body composition, it doesn't make a difference. But in terms of vitamins and minerals, food wins.



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Will one shake a day improve body composition as much as eating healthy meals? Absolutely not. Will it help sure. Again, have some with water before your workout. Rest of the day quality calories. Always
 
Im pretty sure ppl on this very site have replaced their daily protein intake with only protein powder and havent noticed a drop off in body comp or performance
 
Those ingredients arent great lol...if ur getting a whey blend...you want isolate to be first, then concentrate
Ok brother. It's just my 2 cents. The OPs question was what's the best, not everyone said the same. Also idk why it says artificial flavors and that other crap. I get the 10lbs and it doesn't have that. If they worded it differently, it would be better?
 
Well I got an "infraction" from admin for sourcing a protein powder. Must be criminal charge...
Edit: my bad everyone. Did not know sourcing was for everything...
 
Ghost Whey
PES Select
Nutrabio Classic Whey

Anticipating that new Olympus Labs Prote1n!!
 
Will one shake a day improve body composition as much as eating healthy meals? Absolutely not. Will it help sure. Again, have some with water before your workout. Rest of the day quality calories. Always
So these types of links are good to go yes? Because its not a product just info?
 
Im pretty sure ppl on this very site have replaced their daily protein intake with only protein powder and havent noticed a drop off in body comp or performance
That is not possible. You cannot get all your protein just from shakes...
You can try... I guarantee it will harm the body. You will be ****tin all day, your stomach will hurt. That is completely absurd and unhealthy. Do you do that? You do know high protein intake damages the kidneys... Our bodies were not made to consume large amounts of protein.

Try it... It will not work. That's the problem with todays young BBs. Its all about the protein shakes. Amino acids are in foods too. Your body wants food! Shakes are a supplement, not a meal replacement. They say that as marketing so you will buy their products. They don't care about your health
They want your money
 
I stick to PES Select and Animal Whey. Taking insider sales into account I see no reason to stray elsewhere for myself.
No doubt about that. The insiders are definitely the best time to stock up for the long haul.
 
That is not possible. You cannot get all your protein just from shakes...
You can try... I guarantee it will harm the body. You will be ****tin all day, your stomach will hurt. That is completely absurd and unhealthy. Do you do that? You do know high protein intake damages the kidneys... Our bodies were not made to consume large amounts of protein.

Try it... It will not work. That's the problem with todays young BBs. Its all about the protein shakes. Amino acids are in foods too. Your body wants food! Shakes are a supplement, not a meal replacement. They say that as marketing so you will buy their products. They don't care about your health
They want your money

Hahahaha wow
 
That is not possible. You cannot get all your protein just from shakes...
You can try... I guarantee it will harm the body. You will be ****tin all day, your stomach will hurt. That is completely absurd and unhealthy. Do you do that? You do know high protein intake damages the kidneys... Our bodies were not made to consume large amounts of protein.

Care to provide some proof for these claims?
 
Care to provide some proof for these claims?
Research it. I'm not going to spoon feed anymore. Learned something else new from this site. I give advice, the smart (open minded guys catch my drift. It's logic. You wouldn't even have to. Name one guy on this site that does that
 
How old are you?

What relevance does my age have to the topic at hand? You made a few bold claims above, that "you cannot get all your protein from shakes...I guarantee it will harm the body". The onus is on you, in having made those claims, to provide proof of such. Surely you have at least a few peer-reviewed studies at your fingertips that provide, conclusively (you did use the word 'guarantee', after all), the evidence to back up your statements, no?
 
What relevance does my age have to the topic at hand? You made a few bold claims above, that "you cannot get all your protein from shakes...I guarantee it will harm the body". The onus is on you, in having made those claims, to provide proof of such. Surely you have at least a few peer-reviewed studies at your fingertips that provide, conclusively (you did use the word 'guarantee', after all), the evidence to back up your statements, no?

you're trolling. Or have no common sense
 
My go to’s atm are Choas and Pain Kraken -pumpkinhead latte and strawbloody cheeecake are hnnnggggg
Blue star - milk n cookies
Ghost - blueberry or cereal milk
 
MTS Whey has phenomenal flavoring. Certain iForce ones are good, BSMOC in particular

Ghost is great too but way too expensive
 
Casein is also a make up of milk (80% Casein 20% Whey), so there is nothing wrong with casein and milk. Perfectly fine.
Not all milk is sugars (like you think) Almond milk or cashew milk taste good and are very low calorie. Not to mention shakes taste much better then just regular water.

Also all "Brand" name whey's are not meeting label claims. Go find how many COA's or 3rd party tests are done on those . Or some knockoff brand who sells for under the cost of the raw materials. That alone is a red flag. Considering the cost of raw's for WPC, WPI, MPI (Around $10/lb). Companies that continually sell their product under how much it costs for the raws (not factoring in containers or flavoring) may be a risk.

For example body fortress.. Spiked

July 1, 2014: Body Fortress Lawsuit
November 4, 2014: A GNC and 4 Dimension Nutrition joint class action
November 11, 2014: The CVS Lawsuit was filed regarding CVS Whey Protein Powder.
Giant Sports
(Delicious Protein)
November 13, 2014: Inner Armour Class Action Lawsuit (Mass Peak and Nitro Peak) — Update September 9, 2016: Case dismissed with prejudice
November 19, 2014: New Whey Lawsuit (Multi-Pro)
November 19, 2014: Pro Supps PS Whey Lawsuit served.
November 19, 2014: Fit Foods (Mutant Whey)
ALLMAX Lawsuit (Hexapro Protein Powder)
January 23, 2015: CytoSport Muscle Milk Family Lawsuit (note that this is not for spiking! It’s allegedly just under-dosed protein and not having L-Glutamine!)
January 28, 2015: MusclePharm Arnold Schwarzenegger Iron Mass


I would rather buy a name brand such as PES, MTS, Cellucor, Animal that has a 3rd party COA or test to back their labels.
But to each their own

That is not possible. You cannot get all your protein just from shakes...
You can try... I guarantee it will harm the body. You will be ****tin all day, your stomach will hurt. That is completely absurd and unhealthy. Do you do that? You do know high protein intake damages the kidneys... Our bodies were not made to consume large amounts of protein.

Try it... It will not work. That's the problem with todays young BBs. Its all about the protein shakes. Amino acids are in foods too. Your body wants food! Shakes are a supplement, not a meal replacement. They say that as marketing so you will buy their products. They don't care about your health
They want your money

Research it. I'm not going to spoon feed anymore. Learned something else new from this site. I give advice, the smart (open minded guys catch my drift. It's logic. You wouldn't even have to. Name one guy on this site that does that

SMH - I wasn't going to get involve bro, but the kidney thing was just too far. Welcome to 1965.

As far as "marketing", almost all protein powders on the market state that they are not for use in weight reduction - basically saying you aren't supposed to use them as your some source of nutrition. It would be illegal to market them in any other fashion.

But more importantly, tell me you don't REALLY believe that excess protein causes kidney damage? Protein does NOT cause kidney damage and I am willing to spend some time tomorrow digging up a few studies and spoon feeding it to you, if you will do the same? One of us is bound to learn something at least?
 
PES Select!!!
Always Select the best! :)

Sipping on some cafe series at the moment. Trying to get motivated to travel out in this Ohio weather. Busy busy busy during this holiday week!
 
SMH - I wasn't going to get involve bro, but the kidney thing was just too far. Welcome to 1965.

As far as "marketing", almost all protein powders on the market state that they are not for use in weight reduction - basically saying you aren't supposed to use them as your some source of nutrition. It would be illegal to market them in any other fashion.

But more importantly, tell me you don't REALLY believe that excess protein causes kidney damage? Protein does NOT cause kidney damage and I am willing to spend some time tomorrow digging up a few studies and spoon feeding it to you, if you will do the same? One of us is bound to learn something at least?
Bro a guarantee is a guarantee! No need for him to provide proof. It's common sense duh.
 
That is not possible. You cannot get all your protein just from shakes...
You can try... I guarantee it will harm the body. You will be ****tin all day, your stomach will hurt. That is completely absurd and unhealthy. Do you do that? You do know high protein intake damages the kidneys... Our bodies were not made to consume large amounts of protein.

Try it... It will not work. That's the problem with todays young BBs. Its all about the protein shakes. Amino acids are in foods too. Your body wants food! Shakes are a supplement, not a meal replacement. They say that as marketing so you will buy their products. They don't care about your health
They want your money
Of course it’s unwise to rely on protein shakes as your sole protein source. As for a high protein diet inherently being harmful for the kidneys, that’s not true, at least not for people without pre-existing kidney problems. If you have kidney issues, then consult your doctor, but if you don’t, consuming large amounts of protein is not harmful for your kidneys, as a plethora of research shows. I will agree that Whole Foods are ideal, and should make up the majority of your protein intake, but having a lot of protein is not harmful for healthy individuals.
 
Of course it’s unwise to rely on protein shakes as your sole protein source. As for a high protein diet inherently being harmful for the kidneys, that’s not true, at least not for people without pre-existing kidney problems. If you have kidney issues, then consult your doctor, but if you don’t, consuming large amounts of protein is not harmful for your kidneys, as a plethora of research shows. I will agree that Whole Foods are ideal, and should make up the majority of your protein intake, but having a lot of protein is not harmful for healthy individuals.

True. Kidneys levels can read high is not drinking enough water. Drinking lots of water to flush your kidneys out is a must when taking in high protein, really anytime. obviously not too much water but when your thirsty drink.
 
Bro a guarantee is a guarantee! No need for him to provide proof. It's common sense duh.

Lol, yeah, well, it doesn't seem like we have to worry...he has not been back in a few days since I offered to compare research and evidence and he maybe is still trying to find some? Got me....

Of course it’s unwise to rely on protein shakes as your sole protein source. As for a high protein diet inherently being harmful for the kidneys, that’s not true, at least not for people without pre-existing kidney problems. If you have kidney issues, then consult your doctor, but if you don’t, consuming large amounts of protein is not harmful for your kidneys, as a plethora of research shows. I will agree that Whole Foods are ideal, and should make up the majority of your protein intake, but having a lot of protein is not harmful for healthy individuals.

Oh come on. You can't just spoon feed. Maybe we are wrong and he has evidence of protein failure from protein intake that we haven't found ? I mean, beyond the doctor from 1945 or the guy at the gym saying so?
 
What relevance does my age have to the topic at hand? You made a few bold claims above, that "you cannot get all your protein from shakes...I guarantee it will harm the body". The onus is on you, in having made those claims, to provide proof of such. Surely you have at least a few peer-reviewed studies at your fingertips that provide, conclusively (you did use the word 'guarantee', after all), the evidence to back up your statements, no?
Common sense.
 
SMH - I wasn't going to get involve bro, but the kidney thing was just too far. Welcome to 1965.

As far as "marketing", almost all protein powders on the market state that they are not for use in weight reduction - basically saying you aren't supposed to use them as your some source of nutrition. It would be illegal to market them in any other fashion.

But more importantly, tell me you don't REALLY believe that excess protein causes kidney damage? Protein does NOT cause kidney damage and I am willing to spend some time tomorrow digging up a few studies and spoon feeding it to you, if you will do the same? One of us is bound to learn something at least?
Yes we all learn brother! That's why I love life. My point was this kid is saying YOU CAN GET ALL YOUR PROTEIN FROM PROTEIN SHAKES AND NOT FOOD. That would be like saying you can get all your protein from milk, since whey, casein etc. Protein is derived from milk. That's also like saying YOU CAN GET ALL YOUR CARBS FROM SUPPLEMENTS, SINCE PRTOTEIN SHAKES are A SUPPLEMENT.

Also, I agree that protein only will not cause kidney damage, unless you show scientific proof otherwise. Ever notice when you have too much protein, shakes etc. Your piss is bubbly? Not good.

Higher*protein*intake improves both (13, 14, 15, 16). ... Bottom Line: A high protein*intake has been shown to accelerate*kidney damage*in people who have*kidney*disease. However, higher*protein*diets don't adversely affect kidney*function in healthy people.Jun 4,

Here's the raw deal... Take whatever you want. Eat however you want. Your kidneys are responsible for filtering out toxins. If you don't stay hydrated, they will fail.

As a bodybuilder, you know the importance of vitamins and minerals to help build muscle and provide energy. You might not know that your risk for kidney disease increases if you're a bodybuilder.*
 
SMH - I wasn't going to get involve bro, but the kidney thing was just too far. Welcome to 1965.

As far as "marketing", almost all protein powders on the market state that they are not for use in weight reduction - basically saying you aren't supposed to use them as your some source of nutrition. It would be illegal to market them in any other fashion.

But more importantly, tell me you don't REALLY believe that excess protein causes kidney damage? Protein does NOT cause kidney damage and I am willing to spend some time tomorrow digging up a few studies and spoon feeding it to you, if you will do the same? One of us is bound to learn something at least?
Your missing the point
 
Of course it’s unwise to rely on protein shakes as your sole protein source. As for a high protein diet inherently being harmful for the kidneys, that’s not true, at least not for people without pre-existing kidney problems. If you have kidney issues, then consult your doctor, but if you don’t, consuming large amounts of protein is not harmful for your kidneys, as a plethora of research shows. I will agree that Whole Foods are ideal, and should make up the majority of your protein intake, but having a lot of protein is not harmful for healthy individuals.
Make sure you drink that water!
 
Lol, yeah, well, it doesn't seem like we have to worry...he has not been back in a few days since I offered to compare research and evidence and he maybe is still trying to find some? Got me....



Oh come on. You can't just spoon feed. Maybe we are wrong and he has evidence of protein failure from protein intake that we haven't found ? I mean, beyond the doctor from 1945 or the guy at the gym saying so?
Hey bro, lmfao, just because I have a life, and I'm not here to quickly answer, doesn't mean you're right.
 
SMH - I wasn't going to get involve bro, but the kidney thing was just too far. Welcome to 1965.

As far as "marketing", almost all protein powders on the market state that they are not for use in weight reduction - basically saying you aren't supposed to use them as your some source of nutrition. It would be illegal to market them in any other fashion.

But more importantly, tell me you don't REALLY believe that excess protein causes kidney damage? Protein does NOT cause kidney damage and I am willing to spend some time tomorrow digging up a few studies and spoon feeding it to you, if you will do the same? One of us is bound to learn something at least?
My point was you cannot get all your protein from supps. As far as kidney damage and protein... Show me the facts. Until then shhhh
 
My point was you cannot get all your protein from supps. As far as kidney damage and protein... Show me the facts. Until then shhhh
You yourself just quoted something that said that high protein diets don’t aversely effect kidney function in healthy people, but only in people with kidney disease. This seems to support the assertion being made that for the general population, high protein intake is not bad for the kidneys. To say that it’s inherently bad for the kidneys because it’s bad for people who have pre-existing kidney disease is akin to saying that peanuts are inherently bad because some people are allergic to them.
 
My point was you cannot get all your protein from supps. As far as kidney damage and protein... Show me the facts. Until then shhhh

why can't you get all your protein from supplements? 250g's of protein is 250g's of protein, no matter if it's a shake or chicken breast, it's still 250g's of protein in a day

might miss out on some vitamins and minerals but that's not the point at all in this discussion

the kidney thing is a major facepalm on your end tho
 
My point was you cannot get all your protein from supps. As far as kidney damage and protein... Show me the facts. Until then shhhh

Please explain why someone cannot get all of their protein from supplements. Do you have anything showing an upper threshold/limit of protein powder absorption in the adult human body? Is there some literature we've all missed stating that "in order to continue living, one must vary their protein sources. If protein powder is chosen as the sole source for protein consumption, a human will........die!" ??

And sure, it may not be the ideal or healthiest choice (and really, any sane person would likely run into adherence issues after a while) to try and get all your protein intake in supplement form, as muscleupcrohn alluded to. But to say it's simply not possible is, for a few reasons, a tad nutty.

Common sense.

Do you feel okay? Holiday hangover? You replied to that particular post of mine two or three times. Also, are you now saying my post is "common sense" or that I "have no common sense"? Because you replied with the latter in your first responses to me.

Also, I agree that protein only will not cause kidney damage, unless you show scientific proof otherwise. Ever notice when you have too much protein, shakes etc. Your piss is bubbly? Not good.

As far as kidney damage and protein... Show me the facts. Until then shhhh

Seriously, I'm confused, as earlier in this same thread you said:

You do know high protein intake damages the kidneys... Our bodies were not made to consume large amounts of protein.

*scratching head* So, which is it, brah?
 
Please explain why someone cannot get all of their protein from supplements. Do you have anything showing an upper threshold/limit of protein powder absorption in the adult human body? Is there some literature we've all missed stating that "in order to continue living, one must vary their protein sources. If protein powder is chosen as the sole source for protein consumption, a human will........die!" ??

And sure, it may not be the ideal or healthiest choice (and really, any sane person would likely run into adherence issues after a while) to try and get all your protein intake in supplement form, as muscleupcrohn alluded to. But to say it's simply not possible is, for a few reasons, a tad nutty.



Do you feel okay? Holiday hangover? You replied to that particular post of mine two or three times. Also, are you now saying my post is "common sense" or that I "have no common sense"? Because you replied with the latter in your first responses to me.





Seriously, I'm confused, as earlier in this same thread you said:



*scratching head* So, which is it, brah?
Yup, you can get all your protein from a single source, be it chicken, eggs, or protein powder. The issue that you may run into by relying on one protein source exclusively is that it’s probably not going to give you a lot of diversity or micronutrients, but you should probably be having fruits, vegetables, and other foods besides protein as well. Protein powder is also lower calorie and fat per gram of protein than things like beef, eggs, etc, so if you’re trying to bulk, you’d be better off with higher-calorie foods than trying to bulk on primarily protein powder, of course. Also, who doesn’t want to enjoy some chicken, turkey, beef, pork, eggs, etc. at least sometimes as well?
 
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