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Best pre-Workout supplement

thebigt said:
add some caffeine[makes the 1,3 much better]. get the cit mal, and replace the cee with creapure-not only is it more effective-but cee tastes like crap. but that looks like it will get the job done.
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I do take caffeine 200 mg forgot to mention that. CEE taste like sh!t n sucks, but I bought a ****inh kilo of the crap so I'm gonna use it up then never buy it again. I really wish I did more research on creatine cause I haven't used it years...

How many grams of CEE can I take a day? I wanna use this kilo up as fast as humanly possible.
 
StakedCop said:
I do take caffeine 200 mg forgot to mention that. CEE taste like sh!t n sucks, but I bought a ****inh kilo of the crap so I'm gonna use it up then never buy it again. I really wish I did more research on creatine cause I haven't used it years...

How many grams of CEE can I take a day? I wanna use this kilo up as fast as humanly possible.
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5 would be as high as i would go with cee.
 
Im not sure if this happens for other people but I seem to only feel preworkout supplements for the first week or so sadly. I think this just means I must take more! But I've used N.O. Xplod and currently using Jack3d. Like them both!
 
TehProdigy said:
Im not sure if this happens for other people but I seem to only feel preworkout supplements for the first week or so sadly. I think this just means I must take more! But I've used N.O. Xplod and currently using Jack3d. Like them both!
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what you are feeling is the stimulant effect, and the effect lessens the more you use it. the ba/creatine found in jacked will continue to get more effective over time even though you aren't feeling the stimulant effect as much.
 
thebigt said:
what you are feeling is the stimulant effect, and the effect lessens the more you use it. the ba/creatine found in jacked will continue to get more effective over time even though you aren't feeling the stimulant effect as much.
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So should i dose more? Or just keep it at 1 scoop?
 
TehProdigy said:
Sure will, thanks a lot. What else is a recommended product for preworkout?
Is 1MR any good?
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very good stim effect 1st week then you will be in same boat as jack3d.

look for something with a better profile.

mesomorph
muscle marinade
maximize v2
n2kts
ragnarok
 
thebigt said:
very good stim effect 1st week then you will be in same boat as jack3d.

look for something with a better profile.

mesomorph
muscle marinade
maximize v2
n2kts
ragnarok
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Which of these 5 works best for you? Im looking for something that is good and have someone to vow for it :cheers:
 
TehProdigy said:
Which of these 5 works best for you? Im looking for something that is good and have someone to vow for it :cheers:
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i am excited to try the mesomorph with the creatine nitrate, but i can't vouch for it. same goes for n2kts.


both ragnarok and muscle marinade worked very well, and tolerance didn't build nearly as fast as with jacked and 1mr.
 
thebigt said:
i am excited to try the mesomorph with the creatine nitrate, but i can't vouch for it. same goes for n2kts.


both ragnarok and muscle marinade worked very well, and tolerance didn't build nearly as fast as with jacked and 1mr.
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thank you, im going to look into these products.
 
ccnAbolic said:
45 single scoops. A serving is 1-3 scoops, just like almost everything else. Around 2 scoops is a good sweet spot for me.
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Okay and what is the serving size on its nutrition facts?
That is very cheap if its just as many servings as Jack3d, for half price :D
 
thebigt said:
very good stim effect 1st week then you will be in same boat as jack3d.

look for something with a better profile.

mesomorph
muscle marinade
maximize v2
n2kts
ragnarok
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Mesomorph is going to make a big bang!

I would go on saying how good Mesomorph is, but not many people would believe a rep and thats why we have a bunch of Mesomorph logs coming, so everyone can see for themselves :sly:
 
pero said:
IMO (my) ideal pre-workout combo would look like this:

10g EAA
10g BCAA (in malate or nitrate form)
5g leucine
4g HMB
30g maltodextrin
5g creatin AKG
5g beta alanin
6g citrullin malate
5g GPLC
3g of some nicely soluble arginine form/salt
3g agmatin sulfate
300mg norvaline
2g taurine
3g tyrosine
150mg caffeine
150mg 4 HI
100mg beta ecdysterone


currently I'm having 10g EAA+10g BCAA +30g maltodextrin + about 20g of mixed ingredients (some of the above+additional, but with lesser quantities) that support no production and cell volumization and i'm very satisfied.
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Wow, how much money you got to be able to down that before each workout/. You would also think thats a lot of powder to dissolve. is this just your optimum mix, or do you actually use this?
 
JudgementDay said:
Mesomorph is going to make a big bang!

I would go on saying how good Mesomorph is, but not many people would believe a rep and thats why we have a bunch of Mesomorph logs coming, so everyone can see for themselves :sly:
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Do you guys have/sell samples? I have to admit I like the profile.
 
JudgementDay said:
Mesomorph is going to make a big bang!

I would go on saying how good Mesomorph is, but not many people would believe a rep and thats why we have a bunch of Mesomorph logs coming, so everyone can see for themselves :sly:
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lol-will you please stop teasing me.


hopefully my mesomorph will come today.:hump:
 
I used some samples the last 2 days, and I got to admit I was focused, and pretty pumped up. I had plenty of stamina too. I trained longer than usual, and could have kept going. Its good stuff without too much stims. Has anyone used the plasmagen, or creatine nitrate?
 
Cooky32 said:
I used some samples the last 2 days, and I got to admit I was focused, and pretty pumped up. I had plenty of stamina too. I trained longer than usual, and could have kept going. Its good stuff without too much stims. Has anyone used the plasmagen, or creatine nitrate?
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should be seeing some logs soon!!!
 
Well, my samples are gone. I am back to MAXIMIZE V2 for now. Its a solid product too.
I am ultimately more concerned with my diet, but this stuff does make my training more productive.
 
I'm loving ASGT, 1MR was pretty good too, Jack3d was good, but muscle marinade was by far the worst tasting and least potent for me.
 
TonyGT said:
I'm loving ASGT, 1MR was pretty good too, Jack3d was good, but muscle marinade was by far the worst tasting and least potent for me.
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I've tried a sample of 1MR and I liked it as well, I seem to be hooked on the stimulant though, and that doesn't last long :(
 
TehProdigy said:
:o and what would this include?
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Here it be pimp wether you looked or not!!

This is my current home made PWO
3G beta-alanine
50 mg 1,3 dimethy
6g AAKG
3G CEE
10g BCAA
6g EAA
200mg caffeine
Bought in bulk from NP... Taste like complete sh!t but it's cheap and effective!
Gonna add some citrulline malate next time around. (props to bigt)
 
StakedCop said:
Here it be pimp wether you looked or not!!

This is my current home made PWO
3G beta-alanine
50 mg 1,3 dimethy
6g AAKG
3G CEE
10g BCAA
6g EAA
200mg caffeine
Bought in bulk from NP... Taste like complete sh!t but it's cheap and effective!
Gonna add some citrulline malate next time around. (props to bigt)
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Looks like it'd be effective, Im not sure if i want to spend the time on making one:P
 
I wish I had the space. I WILL be living on the ship for a few months. sucks. I will finish my maximize v2
 
StakedCop said:
Here it be pimp wether you looked or not!!

This is my current home made PWO
3G beta-alanine
50 mg 1,3 dimethy
6g AAKG
3G CEE
10g BCAA
6g EAA
200mg caffeine
Bought in bulk from NP... Taste like complete sh!t but it's cheap and effective!
Gonna add some citrulline malate next time around. (props to bigt)
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Best way to do it my friend. very cost effective and works awesome buying in bulk and mixing your own. I used to mix a gatorade pouch in to add some flavor tasted better then straight honestly haha.
 
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