Best NON STIM cutting supps?

[mrhankey87]

Hey guys, I'm finishing my Alphamax XT + FD2 stack in two weeks, which will be followed by a 4-week break from natural anabolics (as many guys suggest).

I wanna start my cutting phase now, so that I get at least two weeks at the beginning in which I'm still on the aforementioned stack, but after that...I don't know! What would you suggest?

I'm asking non-stim specifically because I just can't tolerate caffeine at all, makes me feel like death. I might try including it veeeery slowly into my supps, but it'll take a long time before I can tolerate a stim prewo, for example.

Last year I had great results with Shift + Reduce XT, but since Shift has Forskolin and I'm already taking it with Alphamax XT, I think I need a break afterwards. Reduce XT...I don't know, should I wait before taking it as well, since Alphamax XT is already doing many of the things Reduce XT delivers?

I'm also entertaining the idea of waiting 4 weeks and re-starting Alphamax XT + FD2 which would be great also during a cutting phase. But what to take in the meantime, then?

Thanks for your time guys!

 

[bb333]

Follidrone 2.0, if you have the money, I would never stop it! No need to pause for 4 weeks!
Same thing with the forskolin, at least 12 weeks, you can go quiet! Shift great product, used, always satisfied! (The time used with Alphamine og, beautiful ... peace to his soul)
Alphamax xt, suggest 8 weeks, so in your case better than you pause for 4 weeks.

Translated:
Olympus has many products (I still have not tried them) no stim, fat burner ... assassinate, super 7, super shreed ...
I was in you, I would continue to follidrone 2.0 + shift.

 

[dukes3577]

I would continue FD2 as long as you could without stopping. I ran 3 back to back when first released. Now I'm on my second run 4 bottles so far with no plan of stopping.

 

[mrhankey87]

I'll just continue with FD2 then, thanks guys! But apart from it, I'd still prefer having a 4-week break from natty anabolics (Alphamax XT, etc)...so, what else can I stack with FD2?

 

[HTGduck]

Stack assass1nate with FD2.0. Its a well rounded non stim formula.

 

[bb333]

I'll just continue with FD2 then, thanks guys! But apart from it, I'd still prefer having a 4-week break from natty anabolics (Alphamax XT, etc)...so, what else can I stack with FD2?

FD2 is already a whole, having said that, what diet are you doing? normo? hypo, hyper caloric?

 

[mrhankey87]

FD2 is already a whole, having said that, what diet are you doing? normo? hypo, hyper caloric?

I'm gonna start with a light caloric deficit and take it from there. Last year I cut too much too early, drove myself crazy waiting for cheat day and stalled quite a bit. This year I'm leaner already so it won't be as extreme

 

[bb333]

I'm gonna start with a light caloric deficit and take it from there. Last year I cut too much too early, drove myself crazy waiting for cheat day and stalled quite a bit. This year I'm leaner already so it won't be as extreme

Shift!
Shift!
FD2 + shift.

I do not recommend the new products of Olympus, just because I still have not tried them!
But, Assass1nate talk about it all well! short'll prove it!

 

[mrhankey87]

After some research I came across these products. Anyone can recommend them?

SNS RK-500
SNS Lean Edge
SNS Syn 30
SNS Thyrocaps

Evomuse Eviscerate
Evomuse Absolutely Abliterated

Performax Oxymax XT
Performax TA2

Antaeus Lipomorph

 

[AntM1564]

Shift!
Shift!
FD2 + shift.

I do not recommend the new products of Olympus, just because I still have not tried them!
But, Assass1nate talk about it all well! short'll prove it!

Shift contains stims.

I would look into forskolin caps and check out some of Evomuse's products like Abliderate Ammo

 

[AntM1564]

After some research I came across these products. Anyone can recommend them?

SNS RK-500
SNS Lean Edge
SNS Syn 30
SNS Thyrocaps

Evomuse Eviscerate
Evomuse Absolutely Abliterated

Performax Oxymax XT
Performax TA2

Antaeus Lipomorph

Are you now looking for stims? Some of those products listed have stimulants, which goes against the thread title.

 

[bb333]

Shift contains stims.

synephrine!?

Well, then I recommend forskolina!

 

[JPARKS42]

Assass1nate + Sup3r Shred + Sup3r 7 + Brite is treating me damn well right now. 4 weeks in, loving the results! Diet is pretty solid though and I'm very, very active due to work. Just started doing a little fasted cardio but I'm trying to save most of that for when my body starts to get stubborn in the next month or two. Appetite suppression as a whole has been quite good.

 

[mrhankey87]

Shift contains stims.

I would look into forskolin caps and check out some of Evomuse's products like Abliderate Ammo

Never had a problem with Shift to be honest, if there's stims I never felt them.

 

[mrhankey87]

Are you now looking for stims? Some of those products listed have stimulants, which goes against the thread title.

Oh I didn't know actually. Are you talking about Yohimbine? I never tried it, I just know I can't tolerate caffeine.

 

[DEVANS89]

I'm running
Ignit3
Sup3r 7
Sup3r shred

And enjoying the effects leaning out real nice

 

[AntM1564]

Oh I didn't know actually. Are you talking about Yohimbine? I never tried it, I just know I can't tolerate caffeine.

Yes. There are several products that are stim based, they're just caffeine free, but still are stimulant based. So when asking for a stim free pre workout or fat burner, you need to specify if you're looking for a TRULY stim free product or just a caffeine free product.

 

[VO2Maxima]

Olympus has many products (I still have not tried them) no stim, fat burner ... assassinate, super 7, super shreed ...

In case you're wondering...
Assass1nate: stim-free fat burner and GDA, targets fat loss through a number of pathways (please see the write-up...this one is way too complicated to easily summarize)
Sup3r-Shred: PPAR-delta agonist, encourages body to use lipids as fuel, should also help with endurance
Sup3r-7: 7-keto using the S-SEDDS delivery system for increased bioavailability
Forslean: Sabinsa Forslean 95% forskolin, increases cAMP to improve body composition

If I could only choose one, I'd go with Assass1nate. It's a beautiful profile and very, very effective. If you have money, you can stack more than one.

 

[AdelV]

Evomuse Brite
Evomuse DCP

There is actually more non-stim options than stim fat burners these days!

You can't go wrong, most the non-stim products from various companies mentioned are all good.

 

[TommyTuffGuy]

Assass1nate + Sup3r Shred + Sup3r 7 + Brite is treating me damn well right now. 4 weeks in, loving the results! Diet is pretty solid though and I'm very, very active due to work. Just started doing a little fasted cardio but I'm trying to save most of that for when my body starts to get stubborn in the next month or two. Appetite suppression as a whole has been quite good.

I want to try Brite. I have done a run of Assass1nate and saw great results.

 

[MidwestBeast]

Evomuse Brite
Evomuse DCP

There is actually more non-stim options than stim fat burners these days!

You can't go wrong, most the non-stim products from various companies mentioned are all good.

Appreciate the mentions!

I want to try Brite. I have done a run of Assass1nate and saw great results.

BRITE is phenomenal; I love the stuff.

Haven't used Assass1nate, but have heard great things about it.

OP, if you're looking for a topical product, SuperNova will be great for you. It has the best of Eviscerate and Abliderate, along with the active from BRITE. DCP and Epitome are two other great options in the non-stim category.

 

[compan]

I'm going to go with Forskolin 95% @ 100mg a day.

 

[cubsfan815]

I'm going to go with Forskolin 95% @ 100mg a day.

If you are new to F95, I would work your way up. Maybe start with 25mg-50mg for the first week. I typically dose with food for the first week as well.

 

[mrhankey87]

Can't seem to find most of the mentioned Evomuse stuff in Europe, damn...

 

[compan]

If you are new to F95, I would work your way up. Maybe start with 25mg-50mg for the first week. I typically dose with food for the first week as well.

For sure, forgot to add that thank you.

 

[bb333]

Can't seem to find most of the mentioned Evomuse stuff in Europe, damn...

I reported it many times, and I never heard back!
In Eu, a few suppliers, the best products are not always available.

 

[LiveToLift]

Shift is my go to for non-stim caffeine low stim additions to any recomp or cut stack. Something about that forslean 95 that really kicks some fats aśs and the Rhodiola rosea keeps me from giving in to temptation when faced with foods outside of my target macros. Mix it with the other goodies in the product and boom all bases covered with an awesome addition to many cut stacks. But truthfully my wife and I don't even feel it's necessary to run anything extra when we are using shift.

 

[warbird01]

My favorite non stim cutting supp is TTA-500. Cheap too. At 1g, $24 for a 2 months supply.

 

[mrhankey87]

I reported it many times, and I never heard back!
In Eu, a few suppliers, the best products are not always available.

PS: italiano pure io

 

[HTGduck]

Lipomorph had awesome reviews when it came out but since then it doesnt get very many mentions.

 

[bb333]

Shift contains stims.

I would look into forskolin caps and check out some of Evomuse's products like Abliderate Ammo

Shift is my go to for non-stim additions to any recomp or cut stack. Something about that forslean 95 that really kicks some fats aśs and the Rhodiola rosea keeps me from giving in to temptation when faced with foods outside of my target macros. Mix it with the other goodies in the product and boom all bases covered with an awesome addition to many cut stacks. But truthfully my wife and I don't even feel it's necessary to run anything extra when we are using shift.

make up your mind!
what is the truth?

 

[AntM1564]

make up your mind!
what is the truth?

What is there to make up our minds about. Synephrine is a stimulant. Shift does not have caffeine, but is still a stimulant based product.

https://examine.com/supplements/synephrine/

 

[bb333]

What is there to make up our minds about. Synephrine is a stimulant. Shift does not have caffeine, but is still a stimulant based product.

https://examine.com/supplements/synephrine/

google translate

 

[LiveToLift]

Shift!
Shift!
FD2 + shift.

I do not recommend the new products of Olympus, just because I still have not tried them!
But, Assass1nate talk about it all well! short'll prove it!

Shift contains stims.

I would look into forskolin caps and check out some of Evomuse's products like Abliderate Ammo

make up your mind!
what is the truth?

I do apologize. I often consider the different extracts we use and tend to feel shift is non-stim but I corrected my initial post and am sorry for any confusion as I am technically incorrect. ?

 

[LiveToLift]

Forskolin 95 is my recommendation as well. ?

 

[AntM1564]

I do apologize. I often consider the different extracts we use and tend to feel shift is non-stim but I corrected my initial post and am sorry for any confusion as I am technically incorrect. ��

It happens to the best of us!

 

[LiveToLift]

It happens to the best of us!

Honestly does. Good catch my friend.

 

[Robert5891]

make up your mind!
what is the truth?

Shift contains Synephrine.

Synephrine is a stimulant.

Shift is not stim-free, though it is caffeine free.

 

[bosskardo]

I've seen the exact same argument on this forum before.

 

[Driven2lift]

No argument with Shift containing stimulants.

Generally when people are shopping for a stimulant free product it is for a break from caffeine so it is still a viable option for those people looking to reset their tolerance. You really shouldn't get too much kick from Syn alone but that could vary between users.

There is a lot of good discussion already in here but I will definitely cast a vote that while aiming stimulant free with fat loss as a goal you should take a serious look at including some Forskolin-95, hands down the most effective ingredient for me on this front and one of the most promising for the data we have on body composition.