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Best gains vs sides vs easy pct

Machwon1

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So what do you guys think is the best ph you can still get your hands on? I know sd is cheap and gives huge gains but sides can be rough and pct can suck.... Then epi is ok gains but seems like it's hit or miss if you respond or not.... Hdrol seems like it's also hit or miss.... So if you guys wanted to gain 8/10 solid pounds for your first winter bulk cycle what would you chose?


Test inj isn't a option only ph
 
Machwon1 said:
So what do you guys think is the best ph you can still get your hands on? I know sd is cheap and gives huge gains but sides can be rough and pct can suck.... Then epi is ok gains but seems like it's hit or miss if you respond or not.... Hdrol seems like it's also hit or miss.... So if you guys wanted to gain 8/10 solid pounds for your first winter bulk cycle what would you chose?

Test inj isn't a option only ph

Low dose SD. people used to go crazy with 20 and 30mg doses. With 5mg caps just run it at 5 10 or 15mg to lower sides.

Just my .02
 
D-zine...currently on it now (stacked with lmg) and I must say it is quite nice. Do get some minor back pumps, but they don't interfere with my workout. So far I'm very impressed with the little sides I'm getting.
 
So what do you guys think is the best ph you can still get your hands on? I know sd is cheap and gives huge gains but sides can be rough and pct can suck.... Then epi is ok gains but seems like it's hit or miss if you respond or not.... Hdrol seems like it's also hit or miss.... So if you guys wanted to gain 8/10 solid pounds for your first winter bulk cycle what would you chose?


Test inj isn't a option only ph

I would go with Dieselbolan. Its a DMZ/LMG combo in one cap, and is incredible in terms of mass gains as well as strength. It also has a lot less sides than SD
 
Going to be taking nolvadex at 20/20/10/10 and some PCT assist together with creatine and fish oil.

No OTC PCTs!! People who take that route will learn the hard way sooner or later.
 
QUESTION:
I have alpha one and plan on running it 40/40/40/40
I am currently 215lbs and 25 y/o.
I have ran ErgoPharm 1AD when I was 18 (yeah... I know -- lol), M-Drol twice and Epistane.
Is it safe for me to do Alpha One at 60/60/60/60 given my past experience and weight, or do the sides outweight the benefits? I really want to do 60mg but is it safe?
 
Thanks... So I would definitely not see the same results at 40mg then... well I will buy another bottle of Alpha One. I want to do a stack, and I already have 2 bottles of stano-drol - I know that both PH's are DHT based, but Would stackign them both be a good idea?
Alpha One - 0/ 0 / 60/ 60/ 60/ 60/ 0/ 0/
Stano - 300/300/300/300/300/300/600/800
PCT - Start after last dose of Stano

Is that a good cycle - I just don't want to buy other PH's
 
So what do you guys think is the best ph you can still get your hands on? I know sd is cheap and gives huge gains but sides can be rough and pct can suck.... Then epi is ok gains but seems like it's hit or miss if you respond or not.... Hdrol seems like it's also hit or miss.... So if you guys wanted to gain 8/10 solid pounds for your first winter bulk cycle what would you chose?


Test inj isn't a option only ph

If you only want 8lbs over your winter bulk, why not just start now and do it naturally? you should have time....
 
I meant 8 solid pounds my first month of my winter bulk.... Then one more cycle before cutting..... Plus naturally in-between.... Hoping to gain 15-20lbs solid pounds this winter...
 
I would go with Dieselbolan. Its a DMZ/LMG combo in one cap, and is incredible in terms of mass gains as well as strength. It also has a lot less sides than SD

DBV 2, lots of mass, little sides. Stack with Katandrol @ 350mg. Run some DAA during the cycle and a solid PCT, you ll be bigger and leaner when your done
 
Check out AMS products and some of the logs here on AM. Very very low sides and good gains.
 
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