Looking to try something new for estrogen control/reduction, perhaps a different compound than what is found in Erase.
Any suggestions?
Any suggestions?
My suggestion would be SNS Inhibit-E.Looking to try something new for estrogen control/reduction, perhaps a different compound than what is found in Erase.
Any suggestions?
Inhibt-E from SNS.Looking to try something new for estrogen control/reduction, perhaps a different compound than what is found in Erase. Any suggestions?
Isnt that the same coumpound as erase?My suggestion would be SNS Inhibit-E.
Havent had the best results with it. Still used to comparing things to 6-oxo which worked wonders for me. I do still have some erase and erase pro on hand and will use them, but just thought id explore new options as well.Inhibt-E from SNS.
Any reason you're not interested in running Erase Pro again, or just curious to try new products?
This is the profile.Isnt that the same coumpound as erase?
That would be the old erase formula no?If you are looking for a product with Arimistane, BPS Elimistane would be an excellent choice.
Here are the ingredients:
Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione 75 mg **
E. Cottonii Extract 10:1 400 mg **
Chrysin Cyclodextrin Complex 200 mg **
Just one ingredient in common between the two.Isnt that the same coumpound as erase?
Well, the Arimistane is in common with the old Erase. The E. Cottonii extract is not in Erase, nor the Chrysin Cycldextrin complex I'm finishing up a bottle right now, and my vascularity is pretty awesome Libido is pretty high right now as well. Definitely helping me keep water retention down as well.That would be the old erase formula no?
Its not that i am looking for that, just looking for something new to try.
Wow, that's pretty impressive I should do bloodwork after this bottle of Elimistane. My last Estradiol test came back 29. I started Elimistane right after.Alphadex is a great AI. yosefmax88 just ran a great log on it. I had blood work done and it powered my e2 from 27 to 12 in 4 weeks, so one cap for me is perfect
Fantastic brother, thanks for asking, pm coming your wayWow, that's pretty impressive I should do bloodwork after this bottle of Elimistane. My last Estradiol test came back 29. I started Elimistane right after.
How you been, man?
How would you compare results of the old pro to the new pro?Man sports Nolvadren XT I though was pretty good, has cortisol lowering ingredients as well as the AI. I'm an erase pro fan, both OG and new formula, bummer to hear it didn't work for you
Good suggestion. At two bottles you are looking at a pretty affordable runMy suggestion would be SNS Inhibit-E.
How cow that's cheap!If you are looking for Androst 3,5 ,then Muscle Addiction ' s Eradicate e is what you want. $16 regular price at NP
I've been seeing it regularly 14.99. Must have been a long sale.If you are looking for Androst 3,5 ,then Muscle Addiction ' s Eradicate e is what you want. $16 regular price at NP
Nope, no studies show the bolded...Myokems Alphadex is a amazing product, a very interesting one at that, Brassaiopsis glomerulata is something new a lot of people have been looking into and myokem has taken advantage of this herb. in studies this herb has been shown to be stronger and not just stronger 3,three,tres times strong inhibition than pure dehydrolololide. so in non sciencey terms its dang potent. and myokem has it at a 20:1 ratio!!
Johnold give it a try and DM me if you have any questions about the product or how and when to run it
That's odd...Nope, no studies show the bolded...
I don't think that really supports the statement '3x as powerful' does it?That's odd...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2748821/
A hexane-soluble extract of the leaves of B. glomerulata exhibited significant aromatase inhibition with both enzyme-based and cell-based AI assays [6.9 percent control activity (PCA) at 20 μg/mL and 7.2 PCA at 20 μg/mL, respectively]. Bioassay-guided fractionation of the hexane extract led to the isolation of six compounds of the steroid and triterpenoid classes [spinasterone (1) (Wandji et al., 2002), stigmasterol (2) (Forgo and Kover, 2004), spinasterol (3) (Kojima et al., 1990), 7β-hydroxy-4,22-stigmastadien-3-one (4) (Ayyad, 2002), 6β-hydroxystigmasta-4-en-3-one (5) (Kontiza et al., 2006), and oleanolic acid (6) (Seebacher et al., 2003)]. The ethyl acetate extract of B. glomerulata was also found to exhibit moderate aromatase inhibition with the enzyme-based and cell-based AI assays (59.3 PCA at 20 μg/mL and 37.0 PCA at 20 μg/mL, respectively).
Now,
The monoterpenoid (−)-dehydrololiolide (12), was found to be active in the cell-based AI bioassay (21.8 PCA at 50 μM), with no statistical difference in aromatase inhibition activity between compound 12 and the positive control, letrozole (P < 0.0001). The other monoterpenoid isolated from the ethyl acetate extract, (−)-dihydroactinidiolide (11), was not able to be tested in either AI assay due to compound volatilization. [...] The difference in the activity of 12 in the enzyme-based AI assay (91.5 PCA at 20 μg/mL) and in the cell-based AI assay (21.8 PCA at 50 μM) may be the result of indirect modulation of aromatase expression as was found with these chlorinated monoterpenoid pesticides.
The new natural product, N-benzoyl-L-phenylalanine methyl ester, 9, was also found to be moderately active in the cell-based AI bioassay (33.3 PCA at 50 μM), although 9 was not active in the enzyme-based AI assay (94.3 PCA at 20 μg/mL).
So interestingly, the plain hexane extract is significantly more effective than the pure compounds which were tested. In fact, it's more than 3x more potent than pure (−)-dehydrololiolide. This might imply that the real active ingredient is something like (−)-dihydroactinidiolide, which they were unable to assay due to its volatility and instability in pure form. Or just something they missed entirely. (Strange lipids and highly lipophilic molecules can be nearly impossible to spot and ID, especially if you don't know what you're looking for.)
Never said the product was 3x as powerful. The claim is the full spectrum extract is 3x as potent as pure dehydro (which it is in terms of PCA).I don't think that really supports the statement '3x as powerful' does it?
Not to say that some claim of higher efficacy isn't warranted.
Again, it is not 3x as potent. I'm not sure you understand what you bolded. A plant is measured in mass per volume. A compound is measured in molarity.Never said the product was 3x as powerful. The claim is the full spectrum extract is 3x as potent as pure dehydro (which it is in terms of PCA).
blackstone labs eradicateLooking to try something new for estrogen control/reduction, perhaps a different compound than what is found in Erase. Any suggestions?
this is arimistane which is the old erase and a ton of other products as well.blackstone labs eradicate
Probably concerns about the ingredient eventually being pulled despite being a DHEA metabolite, since you really don't have recourse against the FDA if that happens.Why did erase change their formula when so many people were crazy about the product?
Sad isn't it?Probably concerns about the ingredient eventually being pulled despite being a DHEA metabolite, since you really don't have recourse against the FDA if that happens.
A rapidly growing company that is ramping up volume is a lot more risk-exposed to something like that than smaller companies running smaller batches.
Very few large companies use arimistane, 100,000 units of lost inventory is a lot more risk to take than 1,000 or 10,000 that smaller companies are doing.Sad isn't it?
But still everyone uses Arimistane.
PES changed sooo much : (
For what looks like TO ME, for nothing.
But I've already expressed my sad confusion already on all this. No point in asking.
Nice physiques can't happen without supplementation?Yeah. It'll be VERY interesting to see how physiques are gonna look without good enough supplements. Everything is being canned.
No they can be great but with all these bans and the FDA seeming to ban everything that works even if it's natural is annoying and makes things less fun.Nice physiques can't happen without supplementation?
Never said I don't use supplementation. Obviously I do as well as everyone else on this forum.No they can be great but with all these bans and the FDA seeming to ban everything that works even if it's natural is annoying and makes things less fun. I don't care who you are, if you say you don't ever use assistance or use supplementation to help attain or maintain a physique then you're a damn liar. Even if it's natty stuff. Everyone enjoys and needs an edge. Even if it's only a measly 5% edge.
I know you have, you do this in literally every PES thread man. Your point is taken...so much so that I have people emailing me wondering why you're in every erase thread saying the same thing. I know you mean well but it's a little weird at this point if ya catch my drift.Sad isn't it?
But still everyone uses Arimistane.
PES changed sooo much : (
For what looks like TO ME, for nothing.
But I've already expressed my sad confusion already on all this. No point in asking.