Bench pressing in quarantine.

[jswain34]

This is the vibe in all training logs leading up to a comp or mock meet lol. “Well, did some stretches and mobility, ate some things, slept. Waiting for this weekend.”

 

[Smont]

This is the vibe in all training logs leading up to a comp or mock meet lol. “Well, did some stretches and mobility, ate some things, slept. Waiting for this weekend.”

I figured, it's so boring. You should of seen me cleaning up the basement. Every time I had to move something I set up and got in position like it was a real exercise lol. The behind neck presses were to loosen my shoulder up and the pressdowns were to check the pully. But I made everything look like it was part of a real workout.

 

[Smont]

1/4 lb corned beef, 2 eggs, 2 potato rolls, 12oz milk

 

[Hyde]

I have 1mg Caber tabs that I use a cutter to split into 0.5mg and they work fine. I have no sides from that dose. So maybe you could empty and divide a cap. Which isn’t really 50/50 but even if the actives are 75/25 distribution you’ll probably be alright. And just taking half a cap per week on same day for example.

You need to keep eating like you’re training daily if you want to keep your weight up.

If you get bored, spend 10 minutes visualizing benching the weights you are going to do. It’s so potent when you visualize seriously it is like actual practice. If you do it right, you will probably feel worn out after or be shaking from adrenaline (like what happens if you imagine fighting with someone).

 

[Smont]

Did some meal prep and shopping so not a problem.

Got 3 protein sources cooked,

Potato rolls, sourdough bread and boxed pastas

Fruit and wallnuts for snacks.

And planning on a McDonald's run this afternoon lol. I need to get out the house at least 1x a day so I don't loose my shyt

 

[Hyde]

Did some meal prep and shopping so not a problem.

Got 3 protein sources cooked,

Potato rolls, sourdough bread and boxed pastas

Fruit and wallnuts for snacks.

And planning on a McDonald's run this afternoon lol. I need to get out the house at least 1x a day so I don't loose my shyt

Yesterday was my carb up/refeed day for the week (doing a cyclic keto diet last month) and really had a great time with a bunch of cans of soups, beans, stews and a loaf of fresh French bread. Very easy to eat, lots of delicious flavor and texture diversity, and the soup/gravy lets you soak and house the bread like it’s nothing. Finished the day with a box of hamburger helper chili mac and some Cadbury eggs

 

[Smont]

Just had a coffee mixed with cinnamon and vanilla protein powder, and a bagel with peanut butter and strawberry jam

 

[Smont]

Yesterday was my carb up/refeed day for the week (doing a cyclic keto diet last month) and really had a great time with a bunch of cans of soups, beans, stews and a loaf of fresh French bread. Very easy to eat, lots of delicious flavor and texture diversity, and the soup/gravy lets you soak and house the bread like it’s nothing. Finished the day with a box of hamburger helper chili mac and some Cadbury eggs

One of my favorite things is getting or making a couple different soups and various grilled cheese with different breads and cheeses. Mix and match all the flavors

 

[Smont]

So my next meal I made a big healthy salad with spinach, arugula, red cabbage, shredded carrots, tomatoes and 5oz chicken breast. Then I smothered it with dressing, croutons, shredded cheese and stuffed it in a giant wrap

 

[Smont]

I also just took my shot of test and eq in the glute and the second I pulled out the needle a big stream of blood flowed out??? Maybe I went through a vain? It was completely painless and as soon as I wiped it off no more came out, just the one initial stream. Weird

 

[Hyde]

I also just took my shot of test and eq in the glute and the second I pulled out the needle a big stream of blood flowed out??? Maybe I went through a vain? It was completely painless and as soon as I wiped it off no more came out, just the one initial stream. Weird

Yup, just nicked a vein. No worries, wipe it with a swab per usual and on your way.

 

[trumac]

I also just took my shot of test and eq in the glute and the second I pulled out the needle a big stream of blood flowed out??? Maybe I went through a vain? It was completely painless and as soon as I wiped it off no more came out, just the one initial stream. Weird

Yeah that’s happened to me as well. I lived so I guess it’s not too big of a deal

 

[manifesto]

I also just took my shot of test and eq in the glute and the second I pulled out the needle a big stream of blood flowed out??? Maybe I went through a vain? It was completely painless and as soon as I wiped it off no more came out, just the one initial stream. Weird

That happened to me last week. No pain, but I was concerned I lost some oil in the blood flow

 

[Hyde]

That happened to me last week. No pain, but I was concerned I lost some oil in the blood flow

Not gonna see a difference in the longterm. Like being worried about protein powder that gets stuck in the shaker. You’ll never be able to tell a damn bit with or without it lol

 

[Smont]

Ya it's happened like 2times before. It's just super weird how that first dream of blood leaks out and then no more follows.

Anyway, this dirty bulk is ruining my life, not right now but my future life, idk how the fluck I'm going to be able to swap out these junk meals for chicken breasts rice and string beans next week

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Little update. Bodyweight has been holding steady at 216 in the morning and 220-222 at night.

I believe originally I was 206 or 208 am and 210/211 at night. nipples are still sensitive as hell and a little puffy but nothing serious, no hard lumps, and they shrink back to normal on and off during the day. I've been taking 12.5 mg exemestane in the morning and 300mcg b6 + 300 vitamin e at night for a little help with estrogen and prolactin. While this seems to keep it from getting worse, it's not strong enough to fix it so after Friday I'm going to do a rolox protocol that should knock it out. I just don't wanna mess with my hormones too much more till after I max out.

The stupid thing I do to myself for a little pr on the bench lol.

I got the same issue

 

[Smont]

I got the same issue

What issue are you speaking of

 

[Iwilleattuna]

What issue are you speaking of

nipple flare ups though out the day

usually they go back to normal towards the end of the day

 

[Smont]

nipple flare ups though out the day

usually they go back to normal towards the end of the day

Aren't you just on clomid and exemestane?

 

[Smont]

By the way, my pizza and chicken wings gave me really bad heartburn so I had to get a mcflurry

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Aren't you just on clomid and exemestane?

yeah I’ve had this issue for a long time , lol . I’ve been getting this since age 13 , when I first started noticing hypogonadism symptoms

 

[Smont]

yeah I’ve had this issue for a long time , lol . I’ve been getting this since age 13 , when I first started noticing hypogonadism symptoms

That sucks, when I have that problem from estrogen, 20mg nolvadex EOD knocks it right out. But being on the 19nor it won't work. I'm going to give ralox and b6 a shot for 2 weeks and if that doesn't help then caber.

Did you bring up your situation to your Dr?

 

[Iwilleattuna]

By the way, my pizza and chicken wings gave me really bad heartburn so I had to get a mcflurryView attachment 193485

did it work

That sucks, when I have that problem from estrogen, 20mg nolvadex EOD knocks it right out. But being on the 19nor it won't work. I'm going to give ralox and b6 a shot for 2 weeks and if that doesn't help then caber.

Did you bring up your situation to your Dr?

Tried to but he doesn’t really listen
Didn’t know what nolvadex is actually

 

[Smont]

did it work


Tried to but he doesn’t really listen
Didn’t know what nolvadex is actually

Is this a general practitioner or a Endo

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Is this a general practitioner or a Endo

Gp lol

 

[Iwilleattuna]

I got some left over from ma research tho

 

[trumac]

nipple flare ups though out the day

usually they go back to normal towards the end of the day

Pics or it didn’t happen

 

[Smont]

So I jumped the gun last night cus my nips were itching something super annoying. Took 50mg exem, 100mg ralox and 300mcg b6 ( normally I would say don't do this it will tank estrogen )

But, my estrogen must have been hella high because I woke up with my nips feeling almost normal, horny, my normal morning wood was x2 and would not go away. I had some morning sex and it took till about half way through my shower to go away. I still going to pick pick up some caber just in case but. Wow, night and day difference. I'm going to continue with just ralox and b6 at 50mg/300mcg for 7 days and then reevaluate

 

[Iwilleattuna]

So I jumped the gun last night cus my nips were itching something super annoying. Took 50mg exem, 100mg ralox and 300mcg b6 ( normally I would say don't do this it will tank estrogen )

But, my estrogen must have been hella high because I woke up with my nips feeling almost normal, horny, my normal morning wood was x2 and would not go away. I had some morning sex and it took till about half way through my shower to go away. I still going to pick pick up some caber just in case but. Wow, night and day difference. I'm going to continue with just ralox and b6 at 50mg/300mcg for 7 days and then reevaluate

Ever consider vitex ? Pretty sure p5p is more effective than b6 , as well

 

[Smont]

Ever consider vitex ? Pretty sure p5p is more effective than b6 , as well

Just using things I have on hand. Otherwise I'd be using caber. Was a little foolish starting dien without it as I was not worried about sides but I was mistaken.

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Just using things I have on hand. Otherwise I'd be using caber. Was a little foolish starting dien without it as I was not worried about sides but I was mistaken.

It should work with the other stuff and caber seems harsh in studies, so if you can avoid it than that's a good thing

Have you ever had high prl in blood work?

I am curious about this because it seems estrogen can be caused by estrogen, prolactin and progesterone. We know how to lower prolactin, but how can we actually lower progesterone? I don't believe there is a pharmaceutical which is targeted at
directly lowering prog

 

[Iwilleattuna]

haven't seen any natural supps which can either

 

[Smont]

It should work with the other stuff and caber seems harsh in studies, so if you can avoid it than that's a good thing

Have you ever had high prl in blood work?

I am curious about this because it seems estrogen can be caused by estrogen, prolactin and progesterone. We know how to lower prolactin, but how can we actually lower progesterone? I don't believe there is a pharmaceutical which is targeted at
directly lowering prog

I'm going to look into that stuff after work today, but on a side note I woke up this morning puffy tender nips 100% gone.

 

[Smont]

haven't seen any natural supps which can either

So apparently, lowering estrogen, and a healthy intake of omega 3 vitamin c and b vitamins should lower progesterone. That's all I could find at a glance, I will look deeper into it tho. I'm sure I can find more.

 

[Smont]

I've never had dramatically elevated prolactin on bloodwork, just small increase which isint too bad seeing how I generally let estrogen run high. I think in the future I will try to use more natural means to lower estrogen on cycle. I still stand by not using a ai if I don't need to, but this is 2 cycles in a row I had itchy/puffy nips. Looks like as I'm getting older things are treating me different then they did 5 to 10 years ago

 

[Iwilleattuna]

So apparently, lowering estrogen, and a healthy intake of omega 3 vitamin c and b vitamins should lower progesterone. That's all I could find at a glance, I will look deeper into it tho. I'm sure I can find more.

apparently winstrol does lol

 

[Iwilleattuna]

I've never had dramatically elevated prolactin on bloodwork, just small increase which isint too bad seeing how I generally let estrogen run high. I think in the future I will try to use more natural means to lower estrogen on cycle. I still stand by not using a ai if I don't need to, but this is 2 cycles in a row I had itchy/puffy nips. Looks like as I'm getting older things are treating me different then they did 5 to 10 years ago

yeah look into P5P and vitex. P5P is just a more effective and bioavailable form of b6 and you don’t have to take as many mg so it isn’t as neurotoxic. I know inhibit p has vitex as well

 

[Smont]

yeah look into P5P and vitex. P5P is just a more effective and bioavailable form of b6 and you don’t have to take as many mg so it isn’t as neurotoxic. I know inhibit p has vitex as well

I forgot all about inhibit p

 

[Iwilleattuna]

I forgot all about inhibit p

It's pretty cheap too . I am thinking about trying out inhibit e , or letrone and or , virtus. They all seem pretty good

 

[Smont]

Obviously nothing new to report on training, I went for a 20 min bike ride just to get out the house today.
Morning weight was still 216 and I'm 220.2 after my last meal so that seems to be my new bodyweight, it's been pretty constantly 216/220

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Also, I am curious about calcium d glucarate

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Obviously nothing new to report on training, I went for a 20 min bike ride just to get out the house today.
Morning weight was still 216 and I'm 220.2 after my last meal so that seems to be my new bodyweight, it's been pretty constantly 216/220

Sounds like everything is going well

 

[jswain34]

yeah look into P5P and vitex. P5P is just a more effective and bioavailable form of b6 and you don’t have to take as many mg so it isn’t as neurotoxic. I know inhibit p has vitex as well

Just because a drug is more potent (ie. requires a lower dose for efficacy) doesnt mean it is less toxic, bud.

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Just because a drug is more potent (ie. requires a lower dose for efficacy) doesnt mean it is less toxic, bud.

Hey, sorry man. I have read this, but I could be wrong. I guess p5p is more effective for prolactin inhibition, though?

 

[jswain34]

Hey, sorry man. I have read this, but I could be wrong. I guess p5p is more effective for prolactin inhibition, though?

Im honestly unsure if there have been studies done directly comparing the two, so i dont know for sure. I do know b6 has been shown to lower prolactin with similar effect to caber at 100mg 3x a day. You shouldn’t start to get neurotoxic effects from b6 til youre around 1g/d for “a while” (i dont know the exact duration, but i doubt itd be a 1, 2, or 3 day thing). So depending on the cost of p5p vs good ol’ regular b6 i would likely just use the b6.

Also, i wouldnt be taking 300mg b6 a day for no good reason, it should be a targeted therapy at lowering prolactin for a short to moderate period of time.

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Im honestly unsure if there have been studies done directly comparing the two, so i dont know for sure. I do know b6 has been shown to lower prolactin with similar effect to caber at 100mg 3x a day. You shouldn’t start to get neurotoxic effects from b6 til youre around 1g/d for “a while” (i dont know the exact duration, but i doubt itd be a 1, 2, or 3 day thing). So depending on the cost of p5p vs good ol’ regular b6 i would likely just use the b6.

Also, i wouldnt be taking 300mg b6 a day for no good reason, it should be a targeted therapy at lowering prolactin for a short to moderate period of time.

Awesome to know! Thanks brother. I was reading the same but in reality b6 is b6, lol. And regular old b6 is miles cheaper , hahaha.

Yeah as you can cause an imbalance with the other b vitamins? My prolactin is okay , so I won't be using. Seems like smont should continue his therapy

 

[Hyde]

P5P is pretty cheap on places like Swanson. They had a 30% off sale still going the other day so I grabbed more for a few bucks with some support basics like NAC. I can tell you at 40mg per day, it’s not anything at all like Caber by a very long shot. Just some N=1 feedback.

@Smont you benching 350 tomorrow?

 

[Smont]

Im honestly unsure if there have been studies done directly comparing the two, so i dont know for sure. I do know b6 has been shown to lower prolactin with similar effect to caber at 100mg 3x a day. You shouldn’t start to get neurotoxic effects from b6 til youre around 1g/d for “a while” (i dont know the exact duration, but i doubt itd be a 1, 2, or 3 day thing). So depending on the cost of p5p vs good ol’ regular b6 i would likely just use the b6.

Also, i wouldnt be taking 300mg b6 a day for no good reason, it should be a targeted therapy at lowering prolactin for a short to moderate period of time.

I'm not taking b6 for no reason, it's specifically for the prolactin purpose and will only last as long as needed.

 

[Smont]

P5P is pretty cheap on places like Swanson. They had a 30% off sale still going the other day so I grabbed more for a few bucks with some support basics like NAC. I can tell you at 40mg per day, it’s not anything at all like Caber by a very long shot. Just some N=1 feedback.

@Smont you benching 350 tomorrow?

Yes, I'm trying to see if I can switch it to Saturday cus I have a lot of work tomorrow and Saturday off, but I'm not worried either way.

 

[jswain34]

I'm not taking b6 for no reason, it's specifically for the prolactin purpose and will only last as long as needed.

Definitely wasn’t directed towards you. Just a general statement.