Bam Bam Goes Caveman-Mode: A Training Log

[MrKleen73]

I have the solution for the leg press (I ran into this issue too..once you hit 30+ plates its just a hassle to load up.)

Do:
1. Timed sets INSTEAD of counting reps
2. Add in specific tempo work (4:0:1:0 or 2:2:2:2 for example)
3. Add bands

Those have helped me keep the plate number under control haha

Nice suggestions.

At the end of the day its nothing novel but it make you conscious of how poor (typically) your tempo really is and your missing out on SO much stimulation. Tempo specific work (if you've never done) will give you tension like you've never felt. LOVE IT!

Yes it helps with the mind muscle connection and learning to develop tension in the muscle. Not to mention the metabolic factors from the negative reps.

Ahh I gotcha. I have a few vials of ipamorelin and I'm about halfway through a trial run of CJC 1295 DAC, but I don't think I'm going to get more because of the conflicting opinions on the safety of GH bleed. I'll probably try Mod GRF 1-29 next instead, and IGF DES has always intrigued me except for the price.
I'll also be on MK 677 for a long time so that's going to be a continual part of the equation. My GW-501516 will probably last through PCT as well.

GH Bleed being a problem is over-hyped... first things first you are cycling a PED, your goal is not to emulate the natural cycles of anything but keep the hormones at super-physiological levels. Testosterone levels naturally go up and down throughout the day, or could be said to go in daily pulses. However you don't hear of people avoiding test enanthate because it keeps levels consistently higher than baseline. That is the goal of cycling a PED.

Those seeking to get the most out of peptides will want to incorporate something that keeps levels elevated at all times. Also there isn't much reason for you to avoid the CJC 1295 DAC when you already love MK, it stimulates the same sort of GH release, and does not work in the natural pulsing patterns like what people say about other GHRP or GHRH's. Also you can add in the ipa, or GHRP 2 or 6 with the DAC to get pulses and much larger pulses than normal since the DAC leaves the flood gate cracked open a little.

Honestly, with all the research and anecdotal evidence out there, I believe the GH bleed is fine. Obviously no one can say for certain but I've talked with and worked with some people that are at the pinnacle of this industry in terms of coaching as well as pros and amateurs that have experimented…its not something I'm concerned about but again, different approaches.

I would definitely incorporate something along these lines to maximize what you keep PCT.

Yes agreed! I don't think someone should run DAC endlessly at high doses, but an 8 week to 6 month run should be perfectly fine and very effective. I ran a really nice run of it at 1mg 3 times a week for 8 weeks and leaned up nicely while maintaining the same exact weight.


Looking good BamBam!

 

[BamBam0319]

Nice suggestions.

Yes it helps with the mind muscle connection and learning to develop tension in the muscle. Not to mention the metabolic factors from the negative reps.


GH Bleed being a problem is over-hyped... first things first you are cycling a PED, your goal is not to emulate the natural cycles of anything but keep the hormones at super-physiological levels. Testosterone levels naturally go up and down throughout the day, or could be said to go in daily pulses. However you don't hear of people avoiding test enanthate because it keeps levels consistently higher than baseline. That is the goal of cycling a PED.

Those seeking to get the most out of peptides will want to incorporate something that keeps levels elevated at all times. Also there isn't much reason for you to avoid the CJC 1295 DAC when you already love MK, it stimulates the same sort of GH release, and does not work in the natural pulsing patterns like what people say about other GHRP or GHRH's. Also you can add in the ipa, or GHRP 2 or 6 with the DAC to get pulses and much larger pulses than normal since the DAC leaves the flood gate cracked open a little.


Yes agreed! I don't think someone should run DAC endlessly at high doses, but an 8 week to 6 month run should be perfectly fine and very effective. I ran a really nice run of it at 1mg 3 times a week for 8 weeks and leaned up nicely while maintaining the same exact weight.


Looking good BamBam!

Sweet, that's pretty much what I'm already doing (CJC DAC, ipam, and MK 677) I'm doing 500mcg 2x a week for the CJC though, and doing the ipam at 500mcg about EOD, basically whenever I have the time and I'm fasted for long enough. I've been trying to have a syringe already loaded and in the fridge when I go to bed so I can just get up, stick it, and head to class.
Also, I found a good deal on HGH frag 176-191 that I was thinking about trying for a while. 250mcg 5 on/2 off

 

[MrKleen73]

Sweet, that's pretty much what I'm already doing (CJC DAC, ipam, and MK 677) I'm doing 500mcg 2x a week for the CJC though, and doing the ipam at 500mcg about EOD, basically whenever I have the time and I'm fasted for long enough. I've been trying to have a syringe already loaded and in the fridge when I go to bed so I can just get up, stick it, and head to class.
Also, I found a good deal on HGH frag 176-191 that I was thinking about trying for a while. 250mcg 5 on/2 off

If your only goal is cutting the frag is fine but otherwise a nice well rounded GHRP or GHRP/GHRH combo will provide far more benefit while still increasing fat burn. I also think you would benefit more from 250 of the IPA once daily than doing it EOD. If fasting for at least an hour in the AM then I suggest then if trying to lean up. Take the shot wait at least 30 minutes then eat to give the GH something to work with. Otherwise pre-bed is a great option.

 

[BamBam0319]

If your only goal is cutting the frag is fine but otherwise a nice well rounded GHRP or GHRP/GHRH combo will provide far more benefit while still increasing fat burn. I also think you would benefit more from 250 of the IPA once daily than doing it EOD. If fasting for at least an hour in the AM then I suggest then if trying to lean up. Take the shot wait at least 30 minutes then eat to give the GH something to work with. Otherwise pre-bed is a great option.

Yeah I was just thinking in terms of keeping any and all fat gain at bay as I progress into PCT and beyond into the natty hiatus we all love so much between cycles. I would like to do ipam every day, I'm just not consistent enough. Also I'm not fasted nearly long enough pre-bed to dose it at that time. Honestly the only time I'm ever fasted is before I eat breakfast in the morning.

 

[MrKleen73]

Yeah I was just thinking in terms of keeping any and all fat gain at bay as I progress into PCT and beyond into the natty hiatus we all love so much between cycles. I would like to do ipam every day, I'm just not consistent enough. Also I'm not fasted nearly long enough pre-bed to dose it at that time. Honestly the only time I'm ever fasted is before I eat breakfast in the morning.

You don't have to be fasted as long as you think. Also the DAC limits somotastatin which is what limits GH release. When insulin is present in the blood the somatostatin levels are higher which is why there is a blunting effect on the release. The fact your somotastatin levels are lower you will still get a substantial release. Plus you only need a couple hours after eating, it isn't like you have to truly be fasted. You could definitely take it in the evening and also do the same think if you wanted which is wait 30 minutes post dosing then have a pre bed meal.

 

[BamBam0319]

You don't have to be fasted as long as you think. Also the DAC limits somotastatin which is what limits GH release. When insulin is present in the blood the somatostatin levels are higher which is why there is a blunting effect on the release. The fact your somotastatin levels are lower you will still get a substantial release. Plus you only need a couple hours after eating, it isn't like you have to truly be fasted. You could definitely take it in the evening and also do the same think if you wanted which is wait 30 minutes post dosing then have a pre bed meal.

Hmm okay I'll have to play around a bit it seems. I'm typically scrambling to get calories in later in the day.
I also have hup A currently in transit. Bye bye somatostatin!

 

[BamBam0319]

Forgot to post up my workout today. Finished around noon, and my quads are already sore less than 12 hours later.
Leg ext
80x10, 140x20, 170x15, 200x12, 245x10
Superset w:
Bodyweight squats
4x15

Front squats
45x15, 3x95x15

Standing calf press
105x20, 120x15, 135x12, 150x10

1.5 rep leg extensions
3x110x15

 

[BamBam0319]

Also, I weigh 215 again. Same weight as I was before the cycle. Depressing.
However, I'm tighter, bigger, more vascular, and stronger. Must be less body fat and more muscle.

 

[BamBam0319]

Holy **** my quads are ridiculously sore. Definitely including front squats as a staple in my quad workouts now, and those 1.5 rep leg extensions are BRUTAL on your tear drop. Also definitely need to start forcing myself to include walking lunges more often. Such a good finishing/touch-up exercise.
Loving the leg veins that are starting to creep out :heart:
Also, within a day of bumping my tren dosage up, I have noticed a drastic increase in body heat and sweating throughout the day and night. Very light sleep and a little bit of the old irritability is back.

 

[MrKleen73]

Holy **** my quads are ridiculously sore. Definitely including front squats as a staple in my quad workouts now, and those 1.5 rep leg extensions are BRUTAL on your tear drop. Also definitely need to start forcing myself to include walking lunges more often. Such a good finishing/touch-up exercise.
Loving the leg veins that are starting to creep out :heart:
Also, within a day of bumping my tren dosage up, I have noticed a drastic increase in body heat and sweating throughout the day and night. Very light sleep and a little bit of the old irritability is back.

Sounds great and front squats rock! Yeah 1.5 leg extensions will really bring the burn and even an ache in your teardrop from it being too pumped.

 

[clown007]

I've been doing these for VMO activation before leg extensions and it really wakes the tear drop up before the leg extensions.

[video=youtube;lqmkmVG6q2E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqmkmVG6q2E[/video]

 

[BamBam0319]

I've been doing these for VMO activation before leg extensions and it really wakes the tear drop up before the leg extensions.

[video=youtube;lqmkmVG6q2E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqmkmVG6q2E[/video]

Oh nice, I'll have to watch that when I'm not in class! Lol. I'm all about finding more ways for leg growth. Even though they've been growing A LOT, they still need to be bigger to be proportionate to my upper body.

 

[MrKleen73]

Oh nice, I'll have to watch that when I'm not in class! Lol. I'm all about finding more ways for leg growth. Even though they've been growing A LOT, they still need to be bigger to be proportionate to my upper body.

You just keep focusing on them and they will be huge in no time.

 

[BamBam0319]

You just keep focusing on them and they will be huge in no time.

That's the goal :dance: <-- something I'm NOT doing right now.... too sore.
I've seen the most progress since starting doing them twice a week. Maybe I should do that for shoulders too lol...

 

[MrKleen73]

That's the goal :dance: <-- something I'm NOT doing right now.... too sore.
I've seen the most progress since starting doing them twice a week. Maybe I should do that for shoulders too lol...

Frequency is the key! The more opportunities for growth you give yourself the better. It all comes down to your recovery ability. Shoulders do really well with high rep high frequency training too. You could simply add in a few sets of side or rear raises at the end of a few workouts a week and see some nice gains in that area I would be willing to bet.

 

[BamBam0319]

Frequency is the key! The more opportunities for growth you give yourself the better. It all comes down to your recovery ability. Shoulders do really well with high rep high frequency training too. You could simply add in a few sets of side or rear raises at the end of a few workouts a week and see some nice gains in that area I would be willing to bet.

Yeah, that's actually a great idea. What a surprise, another good idea from Mr. Kleen...

 

[BamBam0319]

Gnarly arm session tonight.

Close grip bench
135x10, 185x5, 225x12, 2x245x10, 225x12
Superset with:
Standing barbell curls
45x10, 65x5, 95x12, 2x105x10, 95x10

PJR pullovers
50x10, 3x80x15
Superset with:
Standing DB curls
20x10, 30x10, 40x10, 50x10

Rope tricep pushdowns
4x44x15
Superset with:
Rope biceps curls
4x44x15

Incline DB curls
3x20x15
Superset with:
Suspended reverse grip cambered bar curls - lying face down on incline bench
3x50x15

Reverse grip tricep pushdowns
3x44x20
Superset with:
Single arm tricep pushdowns - no handle
11x15, 2x11x12

Weight is back up to 218 today. Trying to drink enough water, and eat more food.

 

[BamBam0319]

Miami ain't ready.
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[MrKleen73]

Damn Bambam! Huge changes!

 

[BamBam0319]

Damn Bambam! Huge changes!

Thank you sir! I feel a lot different. Around the same weight as when I started the cycle, but I feel like I look completely different. It's pretty cool to be honest.
I even saw striations in my triceps today..... Wasn't expecting that

 

[MrKleen73]

The hard work is paying off for sure!

 

[BamBam0319]

The hard work is paying off for sure!

I'm glad it's noticeable!
Here is somewhat of a comparison, not too great because of different lighting and slightly different pose, but you can kinda see that I've stripped off some fat. Invalid Link Removed

 

[BeastFitness]

Definitely some VERY good fat loss man! Good work!

 

[clown007]

Yeah man! All the hard work is definitely paying off.

 

[smith_69]

I'm glad it's noticeable!
Here is somewhat of a comparison, not too great because of different lighting and slightly different pose, but you can kinda see that I've stripped off some fat. Invalid Link Removed

photoshop at its best- look the phones are completely different

lol
hard work payin off right there

 

[BamBam0319]

Thanks guys! Feeling pretty good. Can't wait to show it off on the beach hahaha

 

[BamBam0319]

So I got my hands on a bottle of RPN Havoc and 2 bottles of Diabolix for future use... Thanks again Driven2lift
I'll probably snag a bottle of OL EP15TANE to stack with the Havoc since one bottle isn't going to get me very far.
I used to love epistane

 

[dustter]

just wanna say i read this whole log in one day and i learned alot about use, dosages, timing, supplement, health and safety so big thanks to all the dudes that input with legit info here and shout out to Bam Bam slaying the weight room

 

[rascal14]

just wanna say i read this whole log in one day and i learned alot about use, dosages, timing, supplement, health and safety so big thanks to all the dudes that input with legit info here and shout out to Bam Bam slaying the weight room

And for slaying bitches

 

[BamBam0319]

just wanna say i read this whole log in one day and i learned alot about use, dosages, timing, supplement, health and safety so big thanks to all the dudes that input with legit info here and shout out to Bam Bam slaying the weight room

I'm glad I'm not the only one benefitting from this, man! There has definitely been some stellar advice given in this thread.

 

[dustter]

And for slaying bitches

must be nice to be a ripped frat boy on spring break :hail:

 

[BamBam0319]

must be nice to be a ripped frat boy on spring break :hail:

It's about to be kinda sad about coming off the tren though lol...

 

[BamBam0319]

I really don't understand how you can want to make a career out of fitness and exercise and not know how to work out... I see a lot of people from my classes in the gym with horrible form and terrible workout habits. It just doesn't make sense to me?

 

[Dma378]

Bro looking outstanding yourself.

 

[Dma378]

I really don't understand how you can want to make a career out of fitness and exercise and not know how to work out... I see a lot of people from my classes in the gym with horrible form and terrible workout habits. It just doesn't make sense to me?

This!!!!!

 

[BamBam0319]

Bro looking outstanding yourself.

Thanks boss! High tren, winny, and added in Evomuse Dry-Uretix a couple days ago, got me really starting to look shredded. Toying around with my diet has done some awesome stuff with my physique as well.

This!!!!!

It's crazy. Was watching this kid do the tiniest range of motion on bent over rows with minimal weight.. I really wanted to ask what he was doing

 

[BamBam0319]

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Shirt came just in time for spring break... LOL

 

[puccah8808]

You look amazing, Bam!!! Don't lose the booty!

 

[BamBam0319]

You look amazing, Bam!!! Don't lose the booty!

Hahaha don't worry, I don't think that'll ever happen! Thank you

 

[puccah8808]

Bam, I downloaded the lose it app because you said you liked it, but it seems like the nutritional value doesn't match up with the product scanned.

 

[BamBam0319]

Bam, I downloaded the lose it app because you said you liked it, but it seems like the nutritional value doesn't match up with the product scanned.

There are some products here and there that don't sync up and it's moments like those that make me want to throw my phone against the wall. If I find a product like that, I just make a new label and enter the values in manually. Then it saves it so you can re-use it the next time you consume that same product.

 

[puccah8808]

There are some products here and there that don't sync up and it's moments like those that make me want to throw my phone against the wall. If I find a product like that, I just make a new label and enter the values in manually. Then it saves it so you can re-use it the next time you consume that same product.

Yassss! I was thinking about going back to MFP because of that ish!

 

[BamBam0319]

Damn sir, looking ripped!

Thanks man!!

 

[rascal14]

How far of a drive is Miami for you? And do you plan on much drinking/drug use? Lol

When I went to South Padre last year, I spent about 13 hours each way in a camper being pulled behind a truck. I don't really like big parties and stuff, but it was definitely a good experience, even with the bad weather and multiple deaths while we were there.. oh and my girlfriend getting lost and ending up in a hospital an hour away, I will never go back. Lol

 

[BamBam0319]

How far of a drive is Miami for you? And do you plan on much drinking/drug use? Lol

When I went to South Padre last year, I spent about 13 hours each way in a camper being pulled behind a truck. I don't really like big parties and stuff, but it was definitely a good experience, even with the bad weather and multiple deaths while we were there.. oh and my girlfriend getting lost and ending up in a hospital an hour away, I will never go back. Lol

Damn haha. I'm flying there from STL, flight leaves at 5:50am tomorrow morning.. And yes.
That's crazy though. I personally just want to chill and drink all day every day while I'm there but the group I'm with wants to go to clubs and ****.

 

[rascal14]

Damn haha. I'm flying there from STL, flight leaves at 5:50am tomorrow morning.. And yes.
That's crazy though. I personally just want to chill and drink all day every day while I'm there but the group I'm with wants to go to clubs and ****.

That's the worst.. I was down to just drink and play volleyball on the beach, but the same thing happened with the people I went with.

 

[BamBam0319]

That's the worst.. I was down to just drink and play volleyball on the beach, but the same thing happened with the people I went with.

Yeah. So now I'm bringing a suit and bunch of cash along with me instead of just a swimsuit and some tank tops. Oh well, I'll go out a night or two, but my goal for spring break is always to relax; not to get crazy and spend a butt load of money. That's just more stress for me.

 

[BamBam0319]

Forgot to post up my workout from yesterday:
Standing DB lateral raises
15x20, 20x15, 25x15

Seated DB shoulder press
40x10, 4x60x15

Seated DB lateral raises
20x15, 3x30x15

Megaset:
Upright rows: 3x60x15
Shrugs holding 2 45lb plates: 3x15
Single arm DB lateral raises laying sideways on incline bench: 15x10, 2x10x12

Rope handle straight arm lat pulldowns
33x20, 2x44x20

Doing arms again tonight... Gotta pump up the guns before I get to the beach hahaha. Also have my last tren shot today

 

[BeastFitness]

HAHA love that comment

Solid workout as always dude

 

[dustter]

Yeah. So now I'm bringing a suit and bunch of cash along with me instead of just a swimsuit and some tank tops. Oh well, I'll go out a night or two, but my goal for spring break is always to relax; not to get crazy and spend a butt load of money. That's just more stress for me.

so whats your official opinion on drinking while on cycle?