Audioph1x
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Got a link to the insomniac thread? The morning drowsiness with >15mg melatonin just kills me.
Sorry to derail your log, bam.
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Got a link to the insomniac thread? The morning drowsiness with >15mg melatonin just kills me.
Sorry to derail your log, bam.
BamBam0319
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How has that nighttime stack (sans the melatonin) been working for you? Melatonin doesn't even really work for me haha
I have definitely heard of and read about the power of ambien. Will be using only when I absolutely cannot sleep.
BamBam0319
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Don't worry about it man! I love learning new things and sleep is something I should probably get better at lol!
BamBam0319
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Audioph1x
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You're right about that brother. We could all get better at sleeping haha.
The nighttime stack is okay, but it's just too mild. 5htp has been helping my mood throughout the day, though. It's nothing life changing, but it's become noticeable after a few weeks of 100mg pre bed. The valerian root, 5htp, and melatonin don't really help me fall asleep much faster. The stack (for me) is just not strong enough for that, but it keeps me asleep. Hope this makes sense..
Whats your pre bed stack?
Audioph1x
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Yeah, I have been taking kratom for some time now. It definitely helps ease my restless leg syndrome and calms my mind from going 100mph. This is especially helpful because I work crazy shifts. But you're right bro. It's a real thing that does wonders.
cheeky1
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You drop 15mg of melatonin?! Holy sh!t man! You best read that thread asap, I would not recommend that high a dose at all.
Valerian I normally take if I've been a little heavy handed on the stims during the day, or trained late with a stim prewo. The adenosine in it counters the effects of caffeine. In saying that, the Phenibut seemed to do the job just as well, so a combo of the 2 might be awesome.
Oh, I'm not an insomniac, quite the opposite actually, I have adrenal fatigue & the dratted sleep apnoea bug. I can nod off in the middle of the day, especially sitting in class watching video :dead1:
nbshazeezee
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You ever try to fall asleep after an addy? 5 Benadryl, 15mg of melatonin and a double of gin
Kidding of course
BamBam0319
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Right now, nothing really. Kratom was making me itchy everywhere like a crackhead or something so I haven't been using it. I very rarely take melatonin. Usually the only thing I've been taking lately is the second half of my daily dose of Ar1macare Pro.
You ever try to fall asleep after an addy? 5 Benadryl, 15mg of melatonin and a double of gin
Kidding of course
Lol I know the feeling dude
BamBam0319
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What a coincidence, the only reason i slept last night.
Burnfire
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^ Yes, love it!
MrKleen73
Legend
Not sure if you know this I did not, but the effects of Phenibut really don't kick in all the way for about 7 hours. You want to take it earlier and will enjoy it more. Relaxation, clarity of mind all of that peeks later. If you take just a little before bed you are only getting the beginning of the effect. I was not aware of that and used a few bottles being happy with my results then tried that way and was more impressed.
Scary on the benadryl, you can kill yourself with that. Not sure if that was part of the joke or not but if not be careful taking high doses. We lost one of our well respected vets on here from using it to commit suicide.You ever try to fall asleep after an addy? 5 Benadryl, 15mg of melatonin and a double of gin
Kidding of course
I noticed the itching after several of my doses as well. Last time my nose itched like I took vicodin or soma which both drive me nuts!
Haha! I can tell I become much slower mentally when I smoke regular. It is a bad thing for me I only have an on switch for that stuff. I have to avoid it or I just wont do anything at all, and become noticeably less mentally agile even when "not high". It is that damn long halflife. Not to mention the effect it has on my ability to have any control over diet. LOL COMPULSIVE... CHECK!!!!!!
BamBam0319
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Yeah with Kratom the itching was uncontrollable for me, I think next time I try it I'll go half dose and see if I still get some benefits from it without the side.
Most of the time I honestly hate smoking weed so I do it very rarely. Most people have stopped asking me to smoke with them because 90% of the time I say no thank you. I turn into a zombie. Can't talk much, can't think straight, can barely stay awake, can't move, and I hardly even get hungry from it anymore so I don't waste my time or my money.
nbshazeezee
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I'm Sorry, I meant no disrespect meant by it. Wasn't joking about suicide ever man. It's just a stupid way some old buddies would try to go to sleep before an exam in my college days.
BamBam0319
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Cable flies overhand grip (slow, focus hard on stretch and contractions)
3x20x20
Incline BB bench press
135x5, 185x3, 225x12, 2x225x10, 135x5(5 second negatives, explode off chest)
HS wide chest press
182x8, 322x12, 322x10, 322x8, 182x15
Cable flies overhand grip
30x15, 3x30x12
Rope handle cable triceps pushdowns
44x20, 44x16, 44x15
Single arm reverse grip tricep pushdowns
4x16.5x15
3x20x20
Incline BB bench press
135x5, 185x3, 225x12, 2x225x10, 135x5(5 second negatives, explode off chest)
HS wide chest press
182x8, 322x12, 322x10, 322x8, 182x15
Cable flies overhand grip
30x15, 3x30x12
Rope handle cable triceps pushdowns
44x20, 44x16, 44x15
Single arm reverse grip tricep pushdowns
4x16.5x15
nbshazeezee
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I still got you on incline big man
I was really impressed by your flat press brother. Have you tried it again?
BamBam0319
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Thanks bro! It's my first time consistently doing barbell incline in like years lol. Definitely feeling good on those!
I still got you on incline big man
Haha yeah my incline press and overhead press are like my two toughest lifts as far as progressing goes.
You talking flat barbell? I did 4 sets of 275 for 5 and a set of 295 for like 3 and a half on Monday, but I didn't try going any heavier. Trying to shift my focus from heavy lifting to more volume. My ego got the best of me and I need to remember primarily I want SIZE, not numbers!
nbshazeezee
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You were repping 315 out like a champ! I usually just do 275 for 4 sets of ten because I haven't had a spotter lately. Scared
To venture into something I can't lift atleast 6-8 times without a spotter
BamBam0319
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Lol Jesus you're strong as ****. I was really surprised to have gotten 315 for 3 reps. I was pumped.
nbshazeezee
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I'm really interested in running tbol towards the end because nothing ever increases my strength more than tbol did!
BamBam0319
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Damn I've heard that about the stuff, I actually originally had plans to kick this thing off with tbol, not superdrol. But then I found the sd for cheap and it was readily available so I changed plans. My friend who introduced me to the world of real gear loves sdrol, says he cuts up and gets strong as an ox with it, like stronger than he gets on dbol.
wesb2387
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Love da superdrol...
BamBam0319
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Pendlay speed work (squeeze and hold at contraction, 30 second rests)
135x5, 185x3, 6x225x3
Pull-ups
18, 15
Bent over DB rows
3x60x15
Close grip v bar lat pulldowns
3x165x15
Hammer strength high row
92x15, 3x142x15
Rope handle straight arm lat pulldowns
44x20, 2x55x15
Seated DB curls
25x20, 35x20, 45x15, 35x15
Rope handle cable curls
3x33x20
The pump was seriously painful... Couldn't reach up to pull my hood up as I was leaving the gym lol
135x5, 185x3, 6x225x3
Pull-ups
18, 15
Bent over DB rows
3x60x15
Close grip v bar lat pulldowns
3x165x15
Hammer strength high row
92x15, 3x142x15
Rope handle straight arm lat pulldowns
44x20, 2x55x15
Seated DB curls
25x20, 35x20, 45x15, 35x15
Rope handle cable curls
3x33x20
The pump was seriously painful... Couldn't reach up to pull my hood up as I was leaving the gym lol
MrKleen73
Legend
No worries, far from offensive to me. I didn't know you could die from it and was saying it as a warning not to say I was offended. I am sorry if it seemed that way.
Gotta love that!
BamBam0319
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Absolutely. I really loved those bent over DB rows. Much better contraction and burn in the back compared to barbell rows or one arm DB rows braced against a bench or the DB rack.
BamBam0319
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Like six hours post workout and my biceps are still pumped lol
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BamBam0319
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So hard to breathe during high intensity legs hypertrophy lol good lord. Feels like my lungs are gonna explode. Can't wait to start cardarine, and I imagine that new Xtend will help too, once it finally drops!
BamBam0319
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Standing calf press
90x15, 3x120x15
Conventional deadlift overhand grip
135x12, 3x225x12
Hack squat
135x15, 3x225x20
Leg press
3x515x20 (3 45s and 1 100lb plate on each side)
Leg extension (10 regular reps, 5 1.5 reps)
3x110x15
Lying leg curls
2x110x15
Seated leg curls
2x110x15
Currently laying on my bedroom floor. Was about to shower and then started to feel like I was going to puke. I might need to sell off my Stimul8, that **** makes me feel awful every time I take it.
90x15, 3x120x15
Conventional deadlift overhand grip
135x12, 3x225x12
Hack squat
135x15, 3x225x20
Leg press
3x515x20 (3 45s and 1 100lb plate on each side)
Leg extension (10 regular reps, 5 1.5 reps)
3x110x15
Lying leg curls
2x110x15
Seated leg curls
2x110x15
Currently laying on my bedroom floor. Was about to shower and then started to feel like I was going to puke. I might need to sell off my Stimul8, that **** makes me feel awful every time I take it.
nbshazeezee
Well-known member
I through up in the trash in the gym doing squats on that ****. When back poured another half scoop and kept going
If you read my log awhile back I literally said that. Stimul8 will grow on you man. Makes stomach shaky at first
BeastFitness
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I've never tried Stimul8 but any idea as to whats in it that causes the upset stomach? Im not familiar with the formula
clown007
Well-known member
I find I only use half a recommended dose of Stimul8. A full dose is way too potent for me, but a half gives me a perfect amount of clean energy and focus.
Might be worth playing with the dose size?
BamBam0319
Well-known member
Yeah it's some potent ****. Never going over a half scoop againI through up in the trash in the gym doing squats on that ****. When back poured another half scoop and kept going
If you read my log awhile back I literally said that. Stimul8 will grow on you man. Makes stomach shaky at first
Honestly not sure, I don't think there's anything in there that I haven't used before.
Yeah I usually do a half scoop if I use it, don't know what I was thinking today.
Cool thing is if you do a half scoop, the tub lasts 80 workouts lol
BamBam0319
Well-known member
Damn I didn't even know they had capped Stimul8. It'll probably be another year before I finish the tub of powder so I guess it doesn't matter lol
Dma378
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Interesting that I feel like smoking is helping me cut. I only smoke at night after dinner, after done doing anything I need to do, kids, etc. And it totally keeps my mind off food in the hours between dinner and bed. Go to bed before munchies kick in. No bored eating because my mind is entertained.
BamBam0319
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I don't eat when I smoke either. I think I mentioned earlier that it turns me into a zombie lol. Can't do anything but lay down. Perfect for falling asleep, a great cure for trensomnia.
Dma378
Legend
Total opposite here, spins me out for about an hour before I finally sit and chill LOL
MrKleen73
Legend
Well I grew up as a MAJOR POTHEAD! When I was smoking regular stuff I burned through a quarter pound in 2-3 weeks between me and the wife. I would roll full size perfecto sweets with damn near a 1/4 bag in them and smoke it before bed. Part of the reason I quit was that and when the regular supply went dry and dro was the only thing available I ended up with an $800 a month habit before I even realized how much I was smoking. Like I said I had NO chill. Some people get compulsive over speed and what not. That is my only compulsion... It slows my ADHD down and makes me feel closer to normal. I get crazy hungry but only if I eat. If I don't eat at all while high no big deal but no sooner than I start it is GAME OVER!!!! Something I just had to finally say no more too.
Yeah it helps with that for sure, well depending on indica or sativa.
I got very entertaining for the first hour or so after, lots of jokes and wise cracks, the life of the party. I won't buy anything or I will get compuslive again. Know thyself right.
BamBam0319
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Gnarly shoulder session today.
Standing DB lateral raise:
15x20, 20x15, 30x10
Seated DB shoulder press:
30x10, 50x5, 2x80x12, 80x15
Standing DB lateral raise:
20x10, 3x35x15 dropset 17.5x20
Smith machine shrugs:
135x20, 225x20, 2x315x15
Superset:
Bent over DB rear delt raise
4x22.5x15
Rope attachment face pulls
44x15, 49.5x15, 55x15
Rope attachment straight arm lat pulldowns
44x20, 55x20, 55x15
Cable front raises
3x33x15
I decided to drop the superdrol a day early and save the last 4 pills or whatever to add onto my next run. Also will not be going over 20mg daily next time, I think it only increased side effects and didn't add any worthwhile benefits. 20mg though was awesome and I can't wait to do it again.
From here on out it's
350mg/week tren ace (a little over 3 weeks left, unless I decide to extend the run)
125mg/week test e (considering bumping to 250mg?)
Whenever the winny arrives I'll do 4 weeks at 50mg/day
Standing DB lateral raise:
15x20, 20x15, 30x10
Seated DB shoulder press:
30x10, 50x5, 2x80x12, 80x15
Standing DB lateral raise:
20x10, 3x35x15 dropset 17.5x20
Smith machine shrugs:
135x20, 225x20, 2x315x15
Superset:
Bent over DB rear delt raise
4x22.5x15
Rope attachment face pulls
44x15, 49.5x15, 55x15
Rope attachment straight arm lat pulldowns
44x20, 55x20, 55x15
Cable front raises
3x33x15
I decided to drop the superdrol a day early and save the last 4 pills or whatever to add onto my next run. Also will not be going over 20mg daily next time, I think it only increased side effects and didn't add any worthwhile benefits. 20mg though was awesome and I can't wait to do it again.
From here on out it's
350mg/week tren ace (a little over 3 weeks left, unless I decide to extend the run)
125mg/week test e (considering bumping to 250mg?)
Whenever the winny arrives I'll do 4 weeks at 50mg/day
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cheeky1
Active member
Just wanted to give BamBam a rap. You're a legend mate, it's nice to see someone running a log & allowing others to post & have side conversations, makes for a really friendly vibe. Humility is a noble trait. It's also great that you're appreciative of the advice & criticisms offered to you, it's always easy to get defensive but you take it all in your stride & come back ready to learn more. When you learn, I learn & so do others.
I also want to give a big thumbs up to the contributors on BamBam's log. You guys help us all to understand how these things work & I for one appreciate the advice that the more experienced guys have to offer. We all know BamBam is no senior citizen & it would have been easy to blast him for running such products/cycles at his age. I'm sure if he were a noob, or on another forum (no, I don't sleep around on AM, this is my only gal) he would have been absolutely roasted. So cudos to you all for supporting BamBam & helping him do this as safely as possible.
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I also want to give a big thumbs up to the contributors on BamBam's log. You guys help us all to understand how these things work & I for one appreciate the advice that the more experienced guys have to offer. We all know BamBam is no senior citizen & it would have been easy to blast him for running such products/cycles at his age. I'm sure if he were a noob, or on another forum (no, I don't sleep around on AM, this is my only gal) he would have been absolutely roasted. So cudos to you all for supporting BamBam & helping him do this as safely as possible.
:bigok:
BamBam0319
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Thanks a lot man! I appreciate the kind words, and seriously, they mean a lot.
AM is definitely an awesome place to come to with inquiries, experiences, etc.
Not only the company reps, but also normal folks like you and me, are incredibly helpful and more than willing to impart their knowledge upon those who are seeking it.
I'm definitely premature in regards to what I use, but hey, so was Arnold.
LOL!In all seriousness though, the fact that the guys here can take me seriously, give me advice, and realize that no matter how much they could put me on blast, I'm probably not going to listen after having been through countless cycles of prohormones/designer steroids, and now on the dark side. It's great that people want you to do things SAFELY, and not just lecture you on what they believe you should or shouldn't be doing.
Aaron.Cole
Active member
Thanks a lot man! I appreciate the kind words, and seriously, they mean a lot.
AM is definitely an awesome place to come to with inquiries, experiences, etc.
Not only the company reps, but also normal folks like you and me, are incredibly helpful and more than willing to impart their knowledge upon those who are seeking it.
I'm definitely premature in regards to what I use, but hey, so was Arnold.
In all seriousness though, the fact that the guys here can take me seriously, give me advice, and realize that no matter how much they could put me on blast, I'm probably not going to listen after having been through countless cycles of prohormones/designer steroids, and now on the dark side. It's great that people want you to do things SAFELY, and not just lecture you on what they believe you should or shouldn't be doing.
You put up some awesome stuff, brother. I mostly have just been a-lurkin'. Non-creeper style tho
BamBam0319
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You put up some awesome stuff, brother. I mostly have just been a-lurkin'. Non-creeper style tho
Hahaha well I appreciate it man! Hope you've stayed entertained!
BamBam0319
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Just looking at some old pics, thought it'd be cool to see a little comparison!
This is from December 2 to February 25, sooo about 12 weeks difference? I believe these are around the same weight, too.
Just looking at some old pics, thought it'd be cool to see a little comparison!
This is from December 2 to February 25, sooo about 12 weeks difference? I believe these are around the same weight, too.
nbshazeezee
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That's some good ****
BamBam0319
Well-known member
Off day 
While I am tempted to go bust out a sweet pump filled arm day after work... I shouldn't. Upper body power tomorrow.
While I am tempted to go bust out a sweet pump filled arm day after work... I shouldn't. Upper body power tomorrow.
SilentSavage0523
Well-known member
Do it. Don't be a bit*h
nbshazeezee
Well-known member
I second this