Axis Labs Myodrol

man i know i subd and everything but i havent really payed much attention to this

sorry for that but im subd again and now for sure im paying attention
 
Thebigt, you may be right about the bodyfat.

Celc5, thanks, I'll use that.

I did bjj yesterday. I didn't eat enough Monday, so I bonked nearly immediately. Less sleep didn't help. Still a good class, though.

I've noticed increased shedding over the last 4 days or so. Similar to Fenotest levels. I'm sure that may make some of you happy, as it signifies some hormonal changes, but I can't say I'm thrilled with it. Regardless, I'm one bottle in, just finished it yesterday, got one bottle left, and so far I've seen:

Increased libido

Morning wood

Vascularity

Possibly reduced bodyfat
 
Jiu jitsu this morning, on 4.5 hours sleep, a scoop of wf and 2 myodrol. Great class, great time.

Definitely hairloss going on, and holy libido, geez. Funny, fenotest also caused hairloss and wicked libido.
 
bummer man. u must be extremely susceptable. Testofen never had that effect on me, so maybe I should appreciate how lucky I am :think:

Interestingly, Myodrol actually helped a bit with some prostate symptoms that I was having ON cycle. I really figured the saw palmetto would keep the hair loss issue at bay for you too.

Just to look at it from another angle, my shedding most definitely increases when I'm not sleeping. I've went through some bouts of insomnia. And now that I have that under control, my hair loss progression is BARELY noticible now that I get the much needed 8 hours every night. What's gone is gone, but it doesn't get worse when I actually get my sleep.
 
I wonder if the high dose in Myodrol increases test, and hence dht, enough to overcome any benefit it might otherwise have for my hairline. Strangely, formestane didn't increase my hairloss. Humph.

I'm debating whether to continue on with this, or stop, and run the second bottle later, give my head a break (I wouldn't care if I had a round head, but as my dad says, I have a head like a sack full of doorknobs, so keeping my hair is a good thing). I use nizoral shampoo 2-3 times a week, as well (regular 1%, not prescription 2%). I wonder how low dose would do, as well, a single serving a day.

The sleep probably doesn't help, higher cortisol and lower hgh, bad for the body. But my schedule was like this before I started the Myodrol.
 
very tough spot you are in, sub'd to see the resolution, i myself have been considering this supp, I'll get it from swanson 72,000 mgs of actives for a buck or 2 shy of myodrol's 48,000 (if i did my math right)
 
Hey, emilio! I'd love to hear your feedback on Myodrol/Swanson. Iirc, I did the math between the two, and Myodrol was cheaper, but maybe I'm wrong. I still need to try the YTE, haven't gotten around to it. I just read a study in Muscukar Development about YTE in highly stressed individuals. Um, that's me! Lol

I may drop it to one serving a day, instead of two, and see what happens. I wonder if it might have positive effects on the hair at a lower dose?
 
I beleive i read in a mag that astaxanthin increases endurance, actualy im almost positive i read this lol.
 
Yeah, well, endurance has been VERY good. Astaxanthin seems to have a lot of potential benefits: anti-oxidant, endurance, macular degeneration, anti-aging, nutty libidinous boost, test boosting (and if you're me, Agent Orange for the head, lol; if you're not prone, or shaven, hit it).

I wonder if my flesh is now salmon colored (it's fed to farmed salmon to make their flesh orange).
 
poison said:
Yeah, well, endurance has been VERY good. Astaxanthin seems to have a lot of potential benefits: anti-oxidant, endurance, macular degeneration, anti-aging, nutty libidinous boost, test boosting (and if you're me, Agent Orange for the head, lol; if you're not prone, or shaven, hit it).

I wonder if my flesh is now salmon colored (it's fed to farmed salmon to make their flesh orange).
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Nice feedback, I hope you're not orange.
 
poison said:
Hey, emilio! I'd love to hear your feedback on Myodrol/Swanson. Iirc, I did the math between the two, and Myodrol was cheaper, but maybe I'm wrong.
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right now it's on sale at swanson for less than 8 bucks a bottle so 4 bottles for 32 bucks = 360 pills x 200mg per pill=72,00 mg actives

whereas myodrol =120 caps x 400mg = 48,000mg of actives for 34 bucks

just really shocked that this is hard on the hair, it runs counter to most understanding on the bennies of serenoa?
 
Oh, wow, well there ya go. That's a steal! Run it!

I'm not sure it's fair to say it's hard on hair...it's just hard on MY hair.
 
I'm going to lower it to once a day dosing, and see what happens.

I just ran two miles in my vibrams, 15:10. Getting better as my calves develop the endurance and strength. I took 2 Myodrol and a scoop WF before. Endurance was very good.

I finished off with alternating bench and chest supported rows, DL, and tri pushdowns. I was in a hurry, so I blew through everything in 40 minutes or so, including the run. Gotta roast some coffee now, had some orders come in, and I'm slinging espresso for a buddy's wedding on Thurs. Should be fun!
 
wow-i agree with celc, my psa numbers were improved while on myodrol. can't imagine how it could contribute to thinning???

but it looks like your results are very similar to those i had.
 
Sorry for the break, guys. I worked a crazy number of hours, then lost my job out of the blue. Again. For the 5th time in 2.5 years. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I've been taking the single dose (instead of double) in the mornings, and libido is still high. Workouts have been good. I'll be doing BJJ, judo, AND working out now, so it should be fun. :D I did take an extra dose today for possible sexytime tonight, verah nice!

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More to come this week!
 
lol
the guy ruins it
 
you have covinced me to do another run of myodrol. good stuff here, poison!!!!:bigok:
 
what are your thoughts on running this stuff with an SHBG inhibitor such as nettle root or similar, would this bump the results at all?
 
I say yes, but there's only one way to find out. :D

The lowered dosage has lowered libido. It's still noticably stronger than the norm, but it's way less. Full dose makes libido VERY high, nearly annoyingly so. :D
 
just when i was convinced to pull the trigger swanson pushed this stuff back to regular price, so it's 9 bucks a bottle now, still might go for it along with some mega dosed bulk nettle root.
 
Great log poison.
I also read some good things about astaxanthin and I will probably need it.
Now you have me debating on whether to try Myodrol or something else for my supplement restart.
Found a couple of the 'Dinosaur' training manuals online with the old school physical culture workouts. Going to mix it in with a little pattern I threw together from Bruce Lee's book that I already do alternating each 4th week with bodyweight exercises.

Interesting how a mix of saw palmetto and a super antiox could actually help with a boost in testosterone. Not that I really want the libido effects at the moment being sans-lady, but the mood and energy boosts seem to be quite useful.

Plus I work graveyard shift so my sleep patterns are royally screwed.

Again great log.
A very strong push in my consideration of Myodrol.

Arigato.

P.S. good case for the Vibrams too... lolz my boss has some.
 
Just popped into my head that Myodrol may work well stacked with Phyto-Test.

Food for thought.
 
Thanks, GuyverX! It is a pretty interesting supplement, as it has a wide array of potential benefits. The fact that high dose obviously does something effective hormonally is kinda neat.

Oh, and stop working graveyard. I know, you gotta do what you gotta do, but nothing is worse for your health. I did one last week, I hate it. It's not that hard for me, just BAD for me.
 
I had a great bjj class yesterday, 2 hours, with 7-8 6 minute rounds of fighting. Tiring stuff, but good fun!

Today I ran, did decline bench and chest supported tbar rows, and curls with tri pushdowns. Great workout again. Feeling pretty lean and mean!
 
Even worse than graveyard shifts are rolling shifts. No thanks, not for me. I don't have the sac to do that :run:

Props to you fellas who bust your ass and THEN GO TO THE GYM TOO :clap:
 
celc5 said:
Even worse than graveyard shifts are rolling shifts. No thanks, not for me. I don't have the sac to do that :run:

Props to you fellas who bust your ass and THEN GO TO THE GYM TOO :clap:
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it ain't easy being me, lol.
personnaly i am going to run myodrol with formestane the next time around. i have a good feeling about this combo!!
 
T,
you always have creative stacks. I like both of the supps in your plan.
Hey btw, check your pms on SA.
 
I've decided to stop taking Myodrol. I'm simply losing hair, and I don't like it. I've got an ugly ass lumpy head, and i'd like to keep my hair as long as possible.

I did this log in the hopes that Myodrol would prove to be a good test boosting option for guys like myself who are prone to hair loss. Myodrol is supposed to lower DHT, which could have worked in my favor. However, I experienced all the side effects of higher test, and perhaps it simply overwhelms any dht lowering effect. The strongest effects were libido and endurance. A secondary effect was a mild recomp, as well as increased vascularity (without accompanying pumps, my veins were simply popping). It is worth noting that I stopped taking creatine before this log, so somewhere in the middle I achieved normal levels of creatine in my body. I haven't lost any size and strength has been nearly the same. Today was the first day where I felt 'different', and interestingly I've been on the low dose Myodrol for a bit now, and today was my first day without taking any myodrol.

It's a very interesting product, due to the performance and recomp effects, combined with numerous overall anti-aging and overall health effects. I suspect it's something I'll come back to once I'm bald enough not to care about the hair loss, and it might be the perfect supp for the 35+ set. At a low dose, one or two caps a day, it would be a potent prostate tonic which one could use long term. I would definitely like to see more people log this, and compare notes.

For now, I'll be laying off all test boosters. Time for some creatine! I'm thinking Green Bulge, Clout, or AEN PreSurge (of the leashed variety, not the wild Unleashed stuff). :D
 
lol, that sucks man
just shave your head problem solved
 
If I had the pretty head, i'd be shaved alreay, no problem with it and I'm not particularly vain, but gawddamn I have an ugly head (with hair I'm not awful looking at all, but without...yikes!). I'd like to meet the doctor who delivered me and shove his forceps up his ass, sideways. ****.

:lol:
 
poison said:
Thanks, GuyverX! It is a pretty interesting supplement, as it has a wide array of potential benefits. The fact that high dose obviously does something effective hormonally is kinda neat.

Oh, and stop working graveyard. I know, you gotta do what you gotta do, but nothing is worse for your health. I did one last week, I hate it. It's not that hard for me, just BAD for me.
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You have a good point.
Working on that one.
 
poison said:
I've decided to stop taking Myodrol. I'm simply losing hair, and I don't like it. I've got an ugly ass lumpy head, and i'd like to keep my hair as long as possible.

I did this log in the hopes that Myodrol would prove to be a good test boosting option for guys like myself who are prone to hair loss. Myodrol is supposed to lower DHT, which could have worked in my favor. However, I experienced all the side effects of higher test, and perhaps it simply overwhelms any dht lowering effect. The strongest effects were libido and endurance. A secondary effect was a mild recomp, as well as increased vascularity (without accompanying pumps, my veins were simply popping). It is worth noting that I stopped taking creatine before this log, so somewhere in the middle I achieved normal levels of creatine in my body. I haven't lost any size and strength has been nearly the same. Today was the first day where I felt 'different', and interestingly I've been on the low dose Myodrol for a bit now, and today was my first day without taking any myodrol.

It's a very interesting product, due to the performance and recomp effects, combined with numerous overall anti-aging and overall health effects. I suspect it's something I'll come back to once I'm bald enough not to care about the hair loss, and it might be the perfect supp for the 35+ set. At a low dose, one or two caps a day, it would be a potent prostate tonic which one could use long term. I would definitely like to see more people log this, and compare notes.

For now, I'll be laying off all test boosters. Time for some creatine! I'm thinking Green Bulge, Clout, or AEN PreSurge (of the leashed variety, not the wild Unleashed stuff). :D
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Sorry that you have the hair loss.
Thats a pretty harsh effect especially when the supplement per ingredients should either not affect hair loss or at the least prevent it a bit.
The only thing that made me shed was certain supps with tribulus in them.

Thank you for writing a great log/review.
 
Twas a good log poison, too bad you had the hair loss problem. But, everyone has their priorities and if keeping your hair is one of yours then by all means do it! It was great to hear what you had to say on this product. :)
 
GuyverX said:
Sorry that you have the hair loss.
Thats a pretty harsh effect especially when the supplement per ingredients should either not affect hair loss or at the least prevent it a bit.
The only thing that made me shed was certain supps with tribulus in them.

Thank you for writing a great log/review.
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I generally choose products that fit my needs, that I think will work for me. I really did expect this to be good for my hairline, it's quite odd. But it is what it is. I hope I at least showed the naysayers that the product is effective, and hopefully will help people make the right choice when looking at it. Thanks for following!

funkd0c said:
Twas a good log poison, too bad you had the hair loss problem. But, everyone has their priorities and if keeping your hair is one of yours then by all means do it! It was great to hear what you had to say on this product. :)
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Thanks! :)
 
interesting results with the hair loss-i didn't have that experience, fortunately. thanks for logging this product to give others an idea of what to expect from it-big props!!!:bigok:
 
The whole hair loss thing just doesn't make sense. Mydrol is supposed to increase test by lowering estrogen and DHT. Lower DHT = Lots of hair. I'm confused?
 
BBB said:
The whole hair loss thing just doesn't make sense. Mydrol is supposed to increase test by lowering estrogen and DHT. Lower DHT = Lots of hair. I'm confused?
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i don't think hair loss will be a problem for most, imho.
 
I agree. Fenotest did a similar number on my hair, as well, and some people lose hair from tribulus. Go figure.
 
man im guessing it sucks being prone to hair loss, not to brag or anything but my dad is gonna be like 60 pretty soon and he still has a head full of hair and even my moms dad (he is 80+) and still has a good amount of hair.
 
Yes, it does suck. Men on both sides of my family are cue balls. I'm still ok, but it's thinning out way more than i'd prefer. I have a lot of grey, as well, but that's cool, I don't mind at all, it looks good. I really wish I had a better head, i'd happily shave it all off, when my hair gets too thin to look ok.
 
I am 60 and have a full head of hair in spite of the fact that my family is prone to major hair thinning. None are completely bald but most are either partially bald or have major thinning. Moreover, even at 60 I have very few gray hairs. I'm not sure why I think it's because I use DHEA on a regular basis. I also have been taking Taco-8 for about two years now. Prior to using Taco-8 my wife was giving me crap about my hair thinning out especially in the crown of my head. Just the other day she mentioned that my hair was noticeably thicker and as ask what I was doing? I have noticed an increase in hair thickness also. I used to see my scalp in the mirror especially in the back of my head and after a shower when my hair was wet, but no longer. I can also tell that there is more pull on the brush while brushing my hair. I have to believe that Taco-8 is the reason. It didn't happen overnight but I'm a believer in this product not just for hair loss issues but for overall good health.
 
BBB said:
I am 60 and have a full head of hair in spite of the fact that my family is prone to major hair thinning. None are completely bald but most are either partially bald or have major thinning. Moreover, even at 60 I have very few gray hairs. I'm not sure why I think it's because I use DHEA on a regular basis. I also have been taking Taco-8 for about two years now. Prior to using Taco-8 my wife was giving me crap about my hair thinning out especially in the crown of my head. Just the other day she mentioned that my hair was noticeably thicker and as ask what I was doing? I have noticed an increase in hair thickness also. I used to see my scalp in the mirror especially in the back of my head and after a shower when my hair was wet, but no longer. I can also tell that there is more pull on the brush while brushing my hair. I have to believe that Taco-8 is the reason. It didn't happen overnight but I'm a believer in this product not just for hair loss issues but for overall good health.
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damn, that is great results from toco-8.
 
poison said:
Well dammit then. How are you taking it, bbb? You just throw it in a shake?
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I am taking toco 8 right now as part of my PCT and I just throw the powder in the back of my mouth and drink some juice or water to wash it down. It doesn't taste very good IMO so I would be skeptical of putting it in a shake. Just my .02
 
poison said:
Well dammit then. How are you taking it, bbb? You just throw it in a shake?
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I just throw it in my moring shake it doesn't affect the taste at all. I am also using Cycle Support by AI in my morning shake, I just started about a two weeks ago. I'm not on cycle just looks like a solid product. I have high cholesterol and mild BPH. I think it's helping in both areas.
 
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