Awsome sns pre w/o stack!

UncleWade said:
Which is a shame, as far as I'm concerned.

Taking 1,3 DMAA and leaving things like NMT on the market is contradictory as far as I'm concerned.
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This. Nmt can actually be pretty dangerous. But this dmaa ban hype has been going on for years. Maybe it won't happen.
 
Clemenza said:
This. Nmt can actually be pretty dangerous. But this dmaa ban hype has been going on for years. Maybe it won't happen.
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I don't feel a dam thing from NMT. Makes me a sad panda.
 
antihero said:
I'm general, I don't really like it either. The only time I use it is to study when I know I'm pulling an all-nighter. 25mgs and I'm flying for hours, any more than that and I crash hard.
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My experiences exactly. 1 cap Adrena-G is the sweet-spot for clean and sustained energy
 
mr.cooper69 said:
1 cap Adrena-G has 25mg 1,3D
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Lol obvs. I was talking from my own experience, above 40mg was where I wired for a long, long time.

Lulz that you thought I didnt know it was 25mg...
 
mr.cooper69 said:
My experiences exactly. 1 cap Adrena-G is the sweet-spot for clean and sustained energy
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Definitely. I don't see any reason for someone to go above 25mg. even 12.5 with caffeine sometimes does the trick.
 
UncleWade said:
My stack keeps getting more complicated by the day now that I have so much fun stuff to play around with.

One scoop Omega Ultima + one scoop SNS CM + 2g SNS COP + 200mg SNS Caffeine + 3 caps SNS Adrena-G

Prepare for domination.
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I've not been brave enough to try 3....how'd this treat ya?
 
UncleWade said:
I couldn't fall asleep last night - practically felt my neurons burning, firing, and popping in different orders. :D

Got about four hours of sleep, very vivid dreams, woke up just as energized as went I fell asleep.

I assume the HupA + Yohimbe in Nanostim had an interesting reaction with Craze.
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I have had similar reactions to craze. Insomnia, night sweats, weird dreams. Its odd for me. Hehe.
 
Daycrawler said:
Lol obvs. I was talking from my own experience, above 40mg was where I wired for a long, long time.

Lulz that you thought I didnt know it was 25mg...
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25 is perfect for me as well. I have the old nutra 60mgs ones now though... 60mgs causes my adrenals to dump. And I just get really tired and cold about 1hr after taking it n
 
schizm said:
I've not been brave enough to try 3....how'd this treat ya?
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My tolerance is clearly up there. :D

I have been leaning more heavily on deriving energy from 1,3 DMAA than caffeine around the workout, at least when I'm sleep-deprived (as I was yesterday). I by no means rely on stimulants, but when I'm sapped and sluggish 1,3 kicks it in the ass harder for a power day, which is what I look for.

3 caps of 1,3 DMAA provided an intense but very smooth kick in the ass. I didn't crash, and I don't experience negative sides with it typically. If you're well-suited to 1,3 DMAA, I wouldn't be concerned. I would definitely work up to it, though, and not do it often. I was going for massive PRs last night, including a 3x5x405 SLDL, so I wanted a little extra "push". Like cocaine lite. :D
 
UncleWade said:
My tolerance is clearly up there. :D

I have been leaning more heavily on deriving energy from 1,3 DMAA than caffeine around the workout, at least when I'm sleep-deprived (as I was yesterday). I by no means rely on stimulants, but when I'm sapped and sluggish 1,3 kicks it in the ass harder for a power day, which is what I look for.

3 caps of 1,3 DMAA provided an intense but very smooth kick in the ass. I didn't crash, and I don't experience negative sides with it typically. If you're well-suited to 1,3 DMAA, I wouldn't be concerned. I would definitely work up to it, though, and not do it often. I was going for massive PRs last night, including a 3x5x405 SLDL, so I wanted a little extra "push". Like cocaine lite. :D
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Lol.

So.... Did you get 3x5x405?
 
.. Don't mean to mess up anybody's convo on here , but I gotta say big ups to SNS & everybody on here ! I was trying to figure out how to dose Agmatine , MCC , CM , and COP ; I came across this thread and it gave me all the answers I was looking for . I dosed 1.5g Agmatine , 2.25g MCC , 2g COP , 8g CM with one scoop of Focus XT preworkout ; it was so RAW !! I didn't want to leave the gym at all , looked up at the clock and saw I was there for almost 2 hours haha . The pump was just ridiculous . You guys really do know your stuff on here , and SNS just got a new lifetime customer . Dude at the gym thought I was sponsored by SNS cause I was rocking the free t-shirt haha .
 
a.c.614 said:
.. Don't mean to mess up anybody's convo on here , but I gotta say big ups to SNS & everybody on here ! I was trying to figure out how to dose Agmatine , MCC , CM , and COP ; I came across this thread and it gave me all the answers I was looking for . I dosed 1.5g Agmatine , 2.25g MCC , 2g COP , 8g CM with one scoop of Focus XT preworkout ; it was so RAW !! I didn't want to leave the gym at all , looked up at the clock and saw I was there for almost 2 hours haha . The pump was just ridiculous . You guys really do know your stuff on here , and SNS just got a new lifetime customer . Dude at the gym thought I was sponsored by SNS cause I was rocking the free t-shirt haha .
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Check out our fb page and try to get yourself a free sns blender bottle to rock with your shirt.
 
a.c.614 said:
.. Don't mean to mess up anybody's convo on here , but I gotta say big ups to SNS & everybody on here ! I was trying to figure out how to dose Agmatine , MCC , CM , and COP ; I came across this thread and it gave me all the answers I was looking for . I dosed 1.5g Agmatine , 2.25g MCC , 2g COP , 8g CM with one scoop of Focus XT preworkout ; it was so RAW !! I didn't want to leave the gym at all , looked up at the clock and saw I was there for almost 2 hours haha . The pump was just ridiculous . You guys really do know your stuff on here , and SNS just got a new lifetime customer . Dude at the gym thought I was sponsored by SNS cause I was rocking the free t-shirt haha .
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Thanks for your support - glad things worked out so well for you. That looks like an absolutely epic dosage of everything there. I can only imagine the pumps! :D

Let us know if there's anything else we can do for you, or help you with!
 
UncleWade said:
Thanks for your support - glad things worked out so well for you. That looks like an absolutely epic dosage of everything there. I can only imagine the pumps! :D

Let us know if there's anything else we can do for you, or help you with!
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yeah AC thanks for the kind words. You will find SNS holds its supplements to a higher standard than most. The quality is second to none.
 
.. thanks y'all ! I will most def stick with SNS , I can tell the quality was on point ; I had no GI issues with it at all . Felt like I been missing out on what really works for some years , but it's all good at least I know now . I been sharing my experience with all my friends . Everything y'all make is easy on my wallet , and very very effective . Keep up the nice work ! I was wondering if you guys have any other suggestions on a stim free stack or will Focus XT caffeine free be coming out soon ? Working at the commissary warehouse , hitting up four college classes , plus getting a decent workout in is TOUGH . Just trying to look for something to keep me focused , and in a better mood all day without having to use up all my Focus XT .
 
a.c.614 said:
.. thanks y'all ! I will most def stick with SNS , I can tell the quality was on point ; I had no GI issues with it at all . Felt like I been missing out on what really works for some years , but it's all good at least I know now . I been sharing my experience with all my friends . Everything y'all make is easy on my wallet , and very very effective . Keep up the nice work ! I was wondering if you guys have any other suggestions on a stim free stack or will Focus XT caffeine free be coming out soon ? Working at the commissary warehouse , hitting up four college classes , plus getting a decent workout in is TOUGH . Just trying to look for something to keep me focused , and in a better mood all day without having to use up all my Focus XT .
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Definitely look into ALCAR; it's right up your alley. No stimulants, but it's quite effective for focus (and even gets better with time!) if dosed at 1-2g daily.
 
I was just looking at that and PLCAR ; thanks man ! I think I saw somewhere that you said to stay on it for just 6 months ?
 
a.c.614 said:
I was just looking at that and PLCAR ; thanks man ! I think I saw somewhere that you said to stay on it for just 6 months ?
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PLCAR has a similar function. Both are stim-free, and ALCAR will give you more of a mental energy, whereas PLCAR will give you more of a physical energy.

The 6 months is if you want the sexual performance benefits of ALCAR/PLCAR (increased erection index, etc). Otherwise, I'd recommend 1-3 months of either product before cycling off.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
PLCAR has a similar function. Both are stim-free, and ALCAR will give you more of a mental energy, whereas PLCAR will give you more of a physical energy.

The 6 months is if you want the sexual performance benefits of ALCAR/PLCAR (increased erection index, etc). Otherwise, I'd recommend 1-3 months of either product before cycling off.
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Sexual performance benefits?

:eek:

Is there nothing that ALCAR can't do? :D

To think that I've been taking 2g per day and I haven't even been giving it credit with my girlfriend - who, by the way, tried Focus XT for the first time yesterday. I'm afraid she's hooked - there goes the ol' rep order. :(
 
.. Wow had another epic workout ! thanks again for the info , just picked up a couple bottles of both ; can't wait to see how the next few months will be with them added to my stack . SNS has 90% of what I use now haha .
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Definitely look into ALCAR; it's right up your alley. No stimulants, but it's quite effective for focus (and even gets better with time!) if dosed at 1-2g daily.
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This and our caffeine free xt is in the works. Choline citrate may work as well but dont stack it with focus xt.
 
Hmm alright then , anxiously waiting for that caffeine free Focus XT . So with the ALCAR & PLCAR , 2g of both is good preworkout ? or do I have to use one at a time ?
 
a.c.614 said:
Hmm alright then , anxiously waiting for that caffeine free Focus XT . So with the ALCAR & PLCAR , 2g of both is good preworkout ? or do I have to use one at a time ?
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I take 1g of each preworkout. If you take 2g of each, which is perfectly fine, the effects will be even more pronounced.
 
Well mr.cooper sounds like you know you're stuff , you didn't steer me wrong with the stack that I'm on now ; can't wait to see what this combo will do . Hope y'all reply to this thread to let me know when it finally comes out !
 
a.c.614 said:
Well mr.cooper sounds like you know you're stuff , you didn't steer me wrong with the stack that I'm on now ; can't wait to see what this combo will do . Hope y'all reply to this thread to let me know when it finally comes out !
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No problem man, and we'll definitely make sure you know. I'd also look into Omega Ultima while you're waiting for stim-free Focus XT. It's definitely pricy but comes with a lot of goodies, and stacks great with both alcar and plcar.
 
a.c.614 said:
.. Don't mean to mess up anybody's convo on here , but I gotta say big ups to SNS & everybody on here ! I was trying to figure out how to dose Agmatine , MCC , CM , and COP ; I came across this thread and it gave me all the answers I was looking for . I dosed 1.5g Agmatine , 2.25g MCC , 2g COP , 8g CM with one scoop of Focus XT preworkout ; it was so RAW !! I didn't want to leave the gym at all , looked up at the clock and saw I was there for almost 2 hours haha . The pump was just ridiculous . You guys really do know your stuff on here , and SNS just got a new lifetime customer . Dude at the gym thought I was sponsored by SNS cause I was rocking the free t-shirt haha .
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Looks almost identical to my pre workout stack. Just throw in some PLCAR and you'll be set. ;)
 
a.c.614 said:
Well mr.cooper sounds like you know you're stuff , you didn't steer me wrong with the stack that I'm on now ; can't wait to see what this combo will do . Hope y'all reply to this thread to let me know when it finally comes out !
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Cooper knows his stuff and won't steer you wrong - I've trusted him for awhile now. :D
 
i trusted him in bearing my children....I MEAN?!?!?!
 
With everyone sharing their stacks, I'll share mine:

1 tab SNS caffeine
25mg ephedrine sulfate
8g SNS Citrulline Malate
500mg SNS Agmatine
1g SNS PLCAR
1g SNS ALCAR
2g SNS COP
2g SP LCLT

The LCLT and Cit Mal are both tart and are thrown into some lemonade crystal light.

Energy - check
Pumps - check
Endurance - check
Focus - Check
 
Mine:
1 Scoop Focus XT
2g COP
2g LCLT
3G BA
6g CMalate.
750mg agmatine
 
mr.cooper69 said:
With everyone sharing their stacks, I'll share mine:

1 tab SNS caffeine
25mg ephedrine sulfate
8g SNS Citrulline Malate
500mg SNS Agmatine
1g SNS PLCAR
1g SNS ALCAR
2g SNS COP
2g SP LCLT

The LCLT and Cit Mal are both tart and are thrown into some lemonade crystal light.

Energy - check
Pumps - check
Endurance - check
Focus - Check
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I need to try out LCLT.
 
2g COP
6g Citrulline Malate
500mg Agmatine
3g BA
3 caps of Drive
100 mg of ALA (going to ALCAR when done)

now with MCC that should be used pre-bed on non workout days? And the Phenibut I was thinking 3 on 3 off. I get a good pick me up from drive but its a little expensive i want to try focus xt but worried about how much DMAE is in there...that shyt gives me some crazy anxiety....and on off days should i use this stack?
 
andy148lbs said:
2g COP
6g Citrulline Malate
500mg Agmatine
3g BA
3 caps of Drive
100 mg of ALA (going to ALCAR when done)

now with MCC that should be used pre-bed on non workout days? And the Phenibut I was thinking 3 on 3 off. I get a good pick me up from drive but its a little expensive i want to try focus xt but worried about how much DMAE is in there...that shyt gives me some crazy anxiety....and on off days should i use this stack?
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I'd definitely lose the ALA once it is done. Phenibut, I would use no more than twice in 7 days. MCC can be taken pre-bed on offdays.

The DMAE in Focus XT is full-dosed, but that doesn't mean you can't use half a scoop like I do (as well as many others).
 
Daycrawler said:
I need to try out LCLT.
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Anecdotally (in my case), CM has provided greater benefits than habitual LCLT supplementation.

I am still amazed at the quality and performance of the SNS CM that I added to my last rep order - and the fact that 300g is available for so cheap to the general public is even more incredible still. It easily outperforms other powders that are the same price for only 67% of what we're giving out in a tub. :eek:

This has easily become a staple in my usually basic supplementation regimen.
 
UncleWade said:
Anecdotally (in my case), CM has provided greater benefits than habitual LCLT supplementation.

I am still amazed at the quality and performance of the SNS CM that I added to my last rep order - and the fact that 300g is available for so cheap to the general public is even more incredible still. It easily outperforms other powders that are the same price for only 67% of what we're giving out in a tub. :eek:

This has easily become a staple in my usually basic supplementation regimen.
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Yeah.

Just took:

1g Agmatine
1.5g PLCAR
1.25 scoop Craze

Timez for des pumps.


In case anyone is wondering, I don't use focus xt pre-lift as it ends up causing me to focus too much on stuff I need to get done at the house LOL.
 
UncleWade said:
I don't - I don't think he could kick his Craze/ephedrine habits and that would be unhealthy for my unborn child. :p
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Yeah, I listened to Cyrus so many times that I have now begun the path to stimulant tolerance god.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I'm going stim-free for a few months...gonna listen to that too? :D
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I've purchased 3 bottles of Nyquil in prep for my stim break...

I have 8 days off between my old job and new job. Going straight cold turkey, therefore straight hibernation for 8 days.
 
Daycrawler said:
I've purchased 3 bottles of Nyquil in prep for my stim break...

I have 8 days off between my old job and new job. Going straight cold turkey, therefore straight hibernation for 8 days.
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You're a little confused. Sleep is actually WAY easier when you're on stim-break, especially when your baseline energy levels are adapted to 200mg caffeine. The best part about going stim-withdrawal is that sleep has never been easier.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
You're a little confused. Sleep is actually WAY easier when you're on stim-break, especially when your baseline energy levels are adapted to 200mg caffeine. The best part about going stim-withdrawal is that sleep has never been easier.
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Nope, you're confused. Nyquil is to sleep through the headaches :P....

In the past, the headaches prevent me from sleeping..
 
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