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ATP this 30 day energy cycle.

What does a pump gauge ? We get a pump any time we lift weights regardless of s product. Again I am typing on a iPhone with a broken screen. I will have lots of typos. Sorry for that.
 
djbombsquad said:
What does a pump gauge ? We get a pump any time we lift weights regardless of s product. Again I am typing on a iPhone with a broken screen. I will have lots of typos. Sorry for that.
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Dude you are ridiculous, people keep trying to help you out and you just keep the giving them the shaft. Seriously man "what does a pump gauge?" that is the most retarded thing I have heard that what we all strive for a pump. Look at arnold his whole basis on working out was to get a large pump, you think he might have know something?
 
Muscle Pump
I want to talk about this grossly mistaken fallacy in weight training and building muscle. You often hear people screaming at their training partners in the gym things like "Come on, make it burn.", "No pain, no gain.", "Give me another rep!" and other silly gym lingoes that make them feel as if they are training with ultimate intensity. And don't get me wrong, some train quite hard and these outbursts seem to help them with their intensity. What I'm leading to are training myths that have become accepted as muscle
building indicators.
The muscle pump you feel when training is a result of blood actually being "trapped" in the muscles being worked. The muscle pump is certainly a good psychological boost during training and accompanies just about all resistance exercise. And as your muscles become larger so will the pump you get while you train. Now while this muscle pump is not really a bad thing, it is not necessarily an indicator of optimum muscle overload. As you progress in your development you will find that achieving a noticeable pump even during your warm-up sets to be much easier and more prominent. More muscle - more "trapped" blood - bigger pump. Muscle Overload
Muscle overload is what you are after. The entire concept behind this is to tap into the underlying physiological adaptation processes that stimulate muscle growth. Overload is the stimulus that induces a muscle to grow. Muscle "burn" does not stimulate growth. Muscle "pump" does not stimulate muscle growth. Overload stimulates growth. Once into adulthood, muscle growth is not a natural process. It has to be ignited through overload adaptation. In order for a muscle to grow it must have a reason. From a pure training standpoint muscle overload is the only stimulus that can generate muscle growth. The greater the overload, the greater the need for the muscle to adapt. A muscle adapts to overload by growing in size and strength. the underlying physiological adaptation As you are well aware, This is centered completely around achieving progressively increasing muscular overload at every workout. In fact, each time you train you should attempt to increase the overload from the previous training session. If this is not attempted there will be no need for the muscles being trained to adapt and grow. it always seeks to force muscle to grow. Progressive increases in overload and intensity are what are required for muscle growth.
 
djbombsquad said:
Muscle Pump
I want to talk about this grossly mistaken fallacy in weight training and building muscle. You often hear people screaming at their training partners in the gym things like "Come on, make it burn.", "No pain, no gain.", "Give me another rep!" and other silly gym lingoes that make them feel as if they are training with ultimate intensity. And don't get me wrong, some train quite hard and these outbursts seem to help them with their intensity. What I'm leading to are training myths that have become accepted as muscle
building indicators.
The muscle pump you feel when training is a result of blood actually being "trapped" in the muscles being worked. The muscle pump is certainly a good psychological boost during training and accompanies just about all resistance exercise. And as your muscles become larger so will the pump you get while you train. Now while this muscle pump is not really a bad thing, it is not necessarily an indicator of optimum muscle overload. As you progress in your development you will find that achieving a noticeable pump even during your warm-up sets to be much easier and more prominent. More muscle - more "trapped" blood - bigger pump. Muscle Overload
Muscle overload is what you are after. The entire concept behind this is to tap into the underlying physiological adaptation processes that stimulate muscle growth. Overload is the stimulus that induces a muscle to grow. Muscle "burn" does not stimulate growth. Muscle "pump" does not stimulate muscle growth. Overload stimulates growth. Once into adulthood, muscle growth is not a natural process. It has to be ignited through overload adaptation. In order for a muscle to grow it must have a reason. From a pure training standpoint muscle overload is the only stimulus that can generate muscle growth. The greater the overload, the greater the need for the muscle to adapt. A muscle adapts to overload by growing in size and strength. the underlying physiological adaptation As you are well aware, This is centered completely around achieving progressively increasing muscular overload at every workout. In fact, each time you train you should attempt to increase the overload from the previous training session. If this is not attempted there will be no need for the muscles being trained to adapt and grow. it always seeks to force muscle to grow. Progressive increases in overload and intensity are what are required for muscle growth.
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did you write this word for word from an article?
 
djbombsquad said:
Muscle Pump
I want to talk about this grossly mistaken fallacy in weight training and building muscle. You often hear people screaming at their training partners in the gym things like "Come on, make it burn.", "No pain, no gain.", "Give me another rep!" and other silly gym lingoes that make them feel as if they are training with ultimate intensity. And don't get me wrong, some train quite hard and these outbursts seem to help them with their intensity. What I'm leading to are training myths that have become accepted as muscle
building indicators.
The muscle pump you feel when training is a result of blood actually being "trapped" in the muscles being worked. The muscle pump is certainly a good psychological boost during training and accompanies just about all resistance exercise. And as your muscles become larger so will the pump you get while you train. Now while this muscle pump is not really a bad thing, it is not necessarily an indicator of optimum muscle overload. As you progress in your development you will find that achieving a noticeable pump even during your warm-up sets to be much easier and more prominent. More muscle - more "trapped" blood - bigger pump. Muscle Overload
Muscle overload is what you are after. The entire concept behind this is to tap into the underlying physiological adaptation processes that stimulate muscle growth. Overload is the stimulus that induces a muscle to grow. Muscle "burn" does not stimulate growth. Muscle "pump" does not stimulate muscle growth. Overload stimulates growth. Once into adulthood, muscle growth is not a natural process. It has to be ignited through overload adaptation. In order for a muscle to grow it must have a reason. From a pure training standpoint muscle overload is the only stimulus that can generate muscle growth. The greater the overload, the greater the need for the muscle to adapt. A muscle adapts to overload by growing in size and strength. the underlying physiological adaptation As you are well aware, This is centered completely around achieving progressively increasing muscular overload at every workout. In fact, each time you train you should attempt to increase the overload from the previous training session. If this is not attempted there will be no need for the muscles being trained to adapt and grow. it always seeks to force muscle to grow. Progressive increases in overload and intensity are what are required for muscle growth.
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More blood in muscles=more nutrients getting shuttled in at any given time

No more needs to be said
 
djbombsquad said:
Its a product that from a scientific stand point I think we really don't need. I was speaking to a few guys about that at the fitness expo and they felt the same that I should stick to creatine that we alraedy have enough ATP in are body. We just need creatine to put the ATP and ADP together. I mean price is reasonable don't get me wrong but I would have to double up on it to see if it makes a difference.
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we can stick to just creatine, but ATP tabs are a nice option when you want to go off creatine. i had to cycle off a month ago, and when i started the ATP tabs about 2 weeks ago, i got that creatine feeling back in the gym without the creatine.
 
Today was back
2 pullupd with vest again and a 10lb dumbell 6 reps
2 cable pull downs 145lbs 2 sets 6 reps
2 cable rows at 150lbs 6 reps
dead lifts today took a lot out of me. 2 sets 305lbs 6 reps than 4 reps.
Cable pull down machine 200lbs 2 reps 6 reps
I had good energy I feel like today was a good one. Had a little umph. Positive workout.
 
Today was chest, Shoulders, and Tris. Energy was there. Felt good. Took 1.25 hours but that is because I had to wait for some free weights to be free.

Benched 1 set 6 reps at 175lbs
Benched 1 set 6 reps at 180lbs
Inclined 2 sets 6 reps at 160lbs
Dipped 2 sets at 60lbs 6 reps Full ROM
Shoulder pressed 2 sets 6 reps 60lbs Full ROM passed 90 degrees more like 110 degrees.
Side laterals 1 set 15lbs 6 reps second set dumbell facing up and down 25lbs 6 reps.
Tricep push down rope 60lbs 2 sets 6 reps
Tricep cable extention with ez bar 2 sets 65lbs 6 reps.

My energy felt good today. I have around 7 tabs left I did not count but some ware around that area.
My friend who worked out with me today threw up. He said I pushed him to hard lol.
 
Today was back and yesterday was biceps.
Energy great yesterday. Was not tired.
2 sets with dumbells at 35lbs and 40lbs 6 reps.
Barbell curl 2 sets 85lbs 6reps.
Cable curl 2 sets 6 reps. 32lbs

Today cable pull down 142lbs. 2 sets 6 reps.
Cable rowed 180lbs 6 reps. 2 reps
Pull ups vest Plus 15lbs. 2 sets 6 repss
Dead lifted 1 set a 315lbs at 4 reps and 2 partals
Dead lifted 1 set at 320lbs at 3 reps and 3 partials.
It took all I got and my energy by the end of that set was.
 
djbombsquad said:
Muscle Pump I want to talk about this grossly mistaken fallacy in weight training and building muscle.
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Given your weight is listed at 140 pounds do you really think you are in any position to soapbox about what makes muscles grow? Seriously I was heavier than 140 at 17 years old.

djbombsquad said:
As you progress in your development you will find that achieving a noticeable pump even during your warm-up sets to be much easier and more prominent.
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Opinion. If not an opinion please point me in direction of studies showing pumps are easier to obtain the longer your train.

djbombsquad said:
Once into adulthood, muscle growth is not a natural process.
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Are you kidding? You must be kidding. Are you suggesting that muscle growth as an adult is an artificial process?

djbombsquad said:
Progressive increases in overload and intensity are what are required for muscle growth.
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You can't increase intensity indefinitely either.

You fails to acknowledge the many, many possible and complex processes that go into muscle growth and think 'overload' is the be all and end all. What about gene expression as related to myostatin and follistatin? Belgian blue cows don't exactly increase their muscle exhaustion munching on grass all day.

Some of the best muscle and strength gains I have ever gotten were when I had a few weeks off from training. Even your use of the word 'overload' isn't correct. A muscle can only give 100%, you can never 'overload' it beyond its capabilities and available energy. The word 'exhaustion' is much more accurate. As a muscle gets bigger it takes more to exhaust it... but it still can never give 100% more than what it is capable of.

If you do a routine at 95% of what your capable of your still going to get growth. Your still going to get a test. release and a GH release. These are going to float around and bind with all relevant receptors. Why do you think squats have such an impact on upper body?

You probably are so light because you overtrain in the mistaken belief that you have to give some mythical 110% to achieve growth. Step back for a moment and you might see the forrest through the trees.
 
Thinker said:
Given your weight is listed at 140 pounds do you really think you are in any position to soapbox about what makes muscles grow? Seriously I was heavier than 140 at 17 years old.



Opinion. If not an opinion please point me in direction of studies showing pumps are easier to obtain the longer your train.



Are you kidding? You must be kidding. Are you suggesting that muscle growth as an adult is an artificial process?



You can't increase intensity indefinitely either.

You fails to acknowledge the many, many possible and complex processes that go into muscle growth and think 'overload' is the be all and end all. What about gene expression as related to myostatin and follistatin? Belgian blue cows don't exactly increase their muscle exhaustion munching on grass all day.

Some of the best muscle and strength gains I have ever gotten were when I had a few weeks off from training. Even your use of the word 'overload' isn't correct. A muscle can only give 100%, you can never 'overload' it beyond its capabilities and available energy. The word 'exhaustion' is much more accurate. As a muscle gets bigger it takes more to exhaust it... but it still can never give 100% more than what it is capable of.

If you do a routine at 95% of what your capable of your still going to get growth. Your still going to get a test. release and a GH release. These are going to float around and bind with all relevant receptors. Why do you think squats have such an impact on upper body?

You probably are so light because you overtrain in the mistaken belief that you have to give some mythical 110% to achieve growth. Step back for a moment and you might see the forrest through the trees.
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Ah, I see it is your first time reading a DJBombsquad thread.

PS. Don't get him started on myostatin, we already had that conversation in a previous thread... it went to hell in a hand basket really fast.
 
GMG760 said:
Ah, I see it is your first time reading a DJBombsquad thread.

PS. Don't get him started on myostatin, we already had that conversation in a previous thread... it went to hell in a hand basket really fast.
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That's so funny g! I was just reading this guys post thinking, man he must be new or he is just trying to open a whole new can of ban worms lol
 
djbombsquad said:
Today was back and yesterday was biceps.
Energy great yesterday. Was not tired.
2 sets with dumbells at 35lbs and 40lbs 6 reps.
Barbell curl 2 sets 85lbs 6reps.
Cable curl 2 sets 6 reps. 32lbs

Today cable pull down 142lbs. 2 sets 6 reps.
Cable rowed 180lbs 6 reps. 2 reps
Pull ups vest Plus 15lbs. 2 sets 6 repss
Dead lifted 1 set a 315lbs at 4 reps and 2 partals
Dead lifted 1 set at 320lbs at 3 reps and 3 partials.
It took all I got and my energy by the end of that set was.
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wow, you're strong for a little guy!

~karla
 
KarlaG said:
wow, you're strong for a little guy!

~karla
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Karla stop spreading spam plz :booty:

DJ I love your threads and you bring great laughs to the bored but in all I do give you merit you have come a long way. I remember posts from you from over a year ago and I will say you have gained some knowledge, although we don’t understand or believe half the stuff you say we all are here for you buddy. But please stop logging into your Karla account and posting to yourself, its very unbecoming of you DJ :damnit1:
 
WhatsaRoid? said:
Karla stop spreading spam plz :booty:

DJ I love your threads and you bring great laughs to the bored but in all I do give you merit you have come a long way. I remember posts from you from over a year ago and I will say you have gained some knowledge, although we don’t understand or believe half the stuff you say we all are here for you buddy. But please stop logging into your Karla account and posting to yourself, its very unbecoming of you DJ :damnit1:
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Awesome sauce!:trout:
 
KarlaG said:
wow, you're strong for a little guy!

~karla
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Thanks I have my strong and week points. I was week today as I tought 3 martial arts class.

Legs at 10 at night
squatted 2 sets at 160lbs ass to grass but only 4 reps
and then leg extentioned 160lbs 2 sets 6 reps
leg curls zero. Dead lifts killed it for me.

Muscle drumming it now.

My energy was lacking but I think it was more to do with training earlier teaching 3 classes
 
WhatsaRoid? said:
Karla stop spreading spam plz :booty:

DJ I love your threads and you bring great laughs to the bored but in all I do give you merit you have come a long way. I remember posts from you from over a year ago and I will say you have gained some knowledge, although we don’t understand or believe half the stuff you say we all are here for you buddy. But please stop logging into your Karla account and posting to yourself, its very unbecoming of you DJ :damnit1:
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Goodness! Your think that I am DJ?

Wow . . that's kind of messed up. I can assure you Mr Roids that I am 100% female! :nono:

-Karla
 
Cracked iPhone will do it. I hope to have a computer soon with a non cracked screen.
 
Barbell incline pressed 175 3 sets 6 reps
barbell bench 185 2 sets 6 reps
dips 80lbs 6 reps
cable fly 2 sets 30 each hand 6 reps
shoulder dumbell pressed 55lbs 2 sets 6 reps
side lateral 2 sets 6 reps 25lbs
tricep push down cable 75lbs 2 sets 6 reps

Energy was up I was so excited today to hit the gym.
 
I can't seem to copy the picture link from facebook. How wack.


Last night


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Damn I hate winblows. On a apple you right click view image and bamn. This windows you gotta get info of the picture than view url something or another.
 
Yesterday was biceps and brachialis.

Dumbell curled 2 sets 40lbs 6 reps than 4 reps
Barbell curled 2 sets 100lbs 6 reps than 5 reps
cable curled 30 each arm 2 sets 6 reps
muscle stimmed the brachialis at 70 and bicep stimmed at 90 than towards the end 100 again. Very intense

Energy was there. Got threw a 1 hour workout.
 
djbombsquad said:
Yesterday was biceps and brachialis.

Dumbell curled 2 sets 40lbs 6 reps than 4 reps
Barbell curled 2 sets 100lbs 6 reps than 5 reps
cable curled 30 each arm 2 sets 6 reps
muscle stimmed the brachialis at 70 and bicep stimmed at 90 than towards the end 100 again. Very intense

Energy was there. Got threw a 1 hour workout.
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That workout took you an hour?
 
Stretching, warmups, etc waiting for weights muscle stim takes about 30 minutes.
 
Today was legs squated 135 6 reps 155 6 reps 170 6 reps
leg extentions two sets six reps at two hundred pounds
leg culed two sets at ninty pounds
kettle ball dipped two sets twenty pounds for hams etc
butt kick backs two sets thirty pounds each leg

my energy was there went past nighty degrees
awesome day
 
djbombsquad said:
Stretching, warmups, etc waiting for weights muscle stim takes about 30 minutes.
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Wtf are you talking about by muscle stim?

djbombsquad said:
Today was legs squated 135 6 reps 155 6 reps 170 6 reps
leg extentions two sets six reps at two hundred pounds
leg culed two sets at ninty pounds
kettle ball dipped two sets twenty pounds for hams etc
butt kick backs two sets thirty pounds each leg

my energy was there went past nighty degrees
awesome day
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My energy was there went past nighty degrees? Did you mean you are in the band ninety eight degrees? lol just playing man but seriously more people would take you seriously and help you out if you could actually tell us what you mean
 
I was 15% from ass to the grass on my squats. I went past 90 degrees. I was about a in away from the bar. My muscle Stim crantracts for 27 minutes of a work out.

Today was back. Sucked balls on dead lifts but for a reason. Tought 4 martial arts classes before that.

Cable pull down 145 Six reps then 150 six reps
cable rowed one hundred eighty pounds two sets six reps
twinry five pound pull ups two sets six reps.

Dead lifted one fifty pounds two sets 6 reps
 
Monday I did chest dumbell inclined 6 reps 2 sets 80lbs
cable flyed 32lbs each hand 2 sets 6 reps
flat benches 170lbs 6 reps 2 sets
dipped 90lbs 2 sets 6 reps
shoulder dumbell pressed 60lbs 3 sets
cable pull over 32lbs 6 reps 2 sets
tricep push down 75 lbs 3 sets

Energy was awesome.

Yesterday biceps 45lb dumbell 6 reps 2 sets
barbell 100lbs 2 sets 4 reps
cable curled 100 lbs 2 sets easy as pie
my energy was adiquet could have been better just s off day
 
Last night wide cable pull down 145 two sets 6 reps
cable rowc2 sets six reps 180 better range of motion
pull ups two sets six reps thirty pounds
dead lifts 295 two sets seven reps
felt awesome got it on cam will post in the near future.
energy was there was focused and hit it hard

last day for ATP

Today was leg day
squated 170 ass to grass two sets six reps
leg pressed 14 plates no hands.
Kettle ball dips 2 sets 8 reps there large ball I think 25lbs

so next week for 5 days I will keep logging to see if there is a chage in energy that way I give fair assement.
 
DJ I missed your logs!
 
So mon threw fei I will keep loggin and see how my energy is. No ATP no pre work out supp. Just me and the gym
 
So this week I went with out any ATP. I had some great workouts but did not lift any heavier than the past 20 times. My energy was still there. So ether I keep my strength indreictly becuase I had more energy thus more strength or something or this product only partially worked. Like today I still squated 170lbs 2 sets 6 reps but I did that last week too. I dead lifted the same as last week as well. I think this is a product that as a standalone I would never take but in conjunction with maybe creatine and some leucine as well as BA would be a great stack.

I want to thank PAL for letting me log this product for its cost it is something one could stack with what I had mentioned but I would never use this product again as a stand alone.
 
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