what a freaking joke pelosi and the brady bunch are..
The problem is that the Dems wanted that larger sum ALONG WITH a couple trillion more for bailing out states and global warming dreams. Remember Pelosi wouldn't break up her bill to deal with just the specific covid relief pieces or allow any partial relief. Election year and all...^Lol. Meanwhile Dems have been asking for more than a measly $600 (or $1,200 for that matter) for months now. Why can’t people call a spade a spade anymore? Everyone has to alter reality to fit their political agenda...
Maybe you actually need oxygen for optimal immune functionMask Mandates Seem to Make CCP Virus Infection Rates Climb, Study Says
BY MATTHEW VADUM Protective-mask mandates aimed at combating the spread of the CCP virus that causes the disease COVID-19 appear to promote its spread,www.citizensjournal.us
Who would have thought? LolMaybe you actually need oxygen for optimal immune function
Cdc also shows higher infection rates of people reporting always wearing mask. You know what also drops immune function? Fear and anxiety.Mask Mandates Seem to Make CCP Virus Infection Rates Climb, Study Says
BY MATTHEW VADUM Protective-mask mandates aimed at combating the spread of the CCP virus that causes the disease COVID-19 appear to promote its spread,www.citizensjournal.us
You should move to a state that actually clings to the principals of freedom and liberty. We don't wear masks in gyms here in Tennessee.msm says it will take 10 years to get everyone the virus which means wearing a mask in the gym forever uggg
Yeah until you start inviting the fascists from other states to come live in your state and then they vote in the same retarded assholes they just escaped from. All I can say is Oklahoma sucks. I highly recommend people drive completely around it at all costs. Horrible place to live.You should move to a state that actually clings to the principals of freedom and liberty. We don't wear masks in gyms here in Tennessee.
Yeah until you start inviting the fascists from other states to come live in your state and then they vote in the same retarded assholes they just escaped from. All I can say is Oklahoma sucks. I highly recommend people drive completely around it at all costs. Horrible place to live.
Lived in Bartlesville back in the 80s, been a few times to Lawton for work, but haven't been there since 2016. Is it getting bad?Yeah until you start inviting the fascists from other states to come live in your state and then they vote in the same retarded assholes they just escaped from. All I can say is Oklahoma sucks. I highly recommend people drive completely around it at all costs. Horrible place to live.
I said that so people don’t get any bright ideas on moving here. Seeing way too many out of state plates moving in. Those same people will bring along their voting habits and turn my little slice of heaven into their shithole they just left from.Lived in Bartlesville back in the 80s, been a few times to Lawton for work, but haven't been there since 2016. Is it getting bad?
kinda like georgia-eh? texas aint far behind...thank GOD indiana isn't on wish list of democrats fleeing blue states!!!I said that so people don’t get any bright ideas on moving here. Seeing way too many out of state plates moving in. Those same people will bring along their voting habits and turn my little slice of heaven into their shithole they just left from.
This is what I saw today from the cdcCdc also shows higher infection rates of people reporting always wearing mask. You know what also drops immune function? Fear and anxiety. View attachment 200565
My sister’s mother in law is moving back to Tulsa. She is sooooo beyond over California! We’re virtually viewing a 2500 sq ft home for 170k, that sh*t would be around 700k in my area and 2.5 mil in the Bay Area! It’s so fucking insane!I said that so people don’t get any bright ideas on moving here. Seeing way too many out of state plates moving in. Those same people will bring along their voting habits and turn my little slice of heaven into their shithole they just left from.
Texas and Tennessee have the most to risk as these are some of the last truly free states.kinda like georgia-eh? texas aint far behind...thank GOD indiana isn't on wish list of democrats fleeing blue states!!!
She had better remember the reason she is escaping CA. We don’t care how they did or do things in CA here. So don’t ever even bring it up.My sister’s mother in law is moving back to Tulsa. She is sooooo beyond over California! We’re virtually viewing a 2500 sq ft home for 170k, that sh*t would be around 700k in my area and 2.5 mil in the Bay Area! It’s so fucking insane!
That's the way it was for our friends that moved from Cali to Tennessee back in 2016. They sold their place and what they made allowed them to buy a four bedroom, modest house. I think they ended up having like a 30k left on the mortgage once the closing costs were wrapped.My sister’s mother in law is moving back to Tulsa. She is sooooo beyond over California! We’re virtually viewing a 2500 sq ft home for 170k, that sh*t would be around 700k in my area and 2.5 mil in the Bay Area! It’s so fucking insane!
austin and houston are as liberal as cali and minnesota, i think dallas might be leaning that way as well...if texas goes blue we are lost.Texas and Tennessee have the most to risk as these are some of the last truly free states.
Not arguing that at all. But the principals and laws are still pretty legit. Like you can gift someone a firearm and it’s there’s in Texas.austin and houston are as liberal as cali and minnesota, i think dallas might be leaning that way as well...if texas goes blue we are lost.
indiana is solid red, but if not for unigov indianapolis would be solid blue. unigov combined all the suburban communities into what is called metro indianapolis, so the mayor is still a republican, but the city council is almost entirely democrat.Not arguing that at all. But the principals and laws are still pretty legit. Like you can gift someone a firearm and it’s there’s in Texas.
Believe me, Nashville is a commie hole now, just like a little NY. We moved away from there after Mayor Cooper moved in and started telling us how we need to live, breath and think.
I’m surprised, I thought Indiana would be blue. Also.... wonder if they’ll change Indiana because it’s Indian(a) and “offensive.”indiana is solid red, but if not for unigov indianapolis would be solid blue. unigov combined all the suburban communities into what is called metro indianapolis, so the mayor is still a republican, but the city council is almost entirely democrat.
bush sr. and trump both have/had vice presidents from indiana...other than inner city indianapolis and pockets of democrat cities like gary/south bend/bloomington, indiana is very conservative!!!I’m surprised, I thought Indiana would be blue. Also.... wonder if they’ll change Indiana because it’s Indian(a) and “offensive.”
Lol, anyway... it was beautiful driving through red states like Idaho and Montana.
wait till you guys get the South African variant bro, that will really **** things, the vaccine probably won’t work against that at all (and it spreads the same speed as the other variant we have in the UK that caused our total lockdown to be put in place)China still not letting anyone in to investigate the origins of covid. Super-shady.
And also heard today the vaccine might only last a couple of years, meaning they don't plan for this dance to ever end. Numbers still climbing so prepare for the Biden mega-lockdown any time soon.
Democrats pull a total power grab in Georgia and finally get their chance to change Senate rules and REALLY spend us into oblivion. Hello Venezuela? I'll be needing a wheelbarrow to transport worthless dollars....
our hospitals are fucked bro (that’s not a media view, that’s actually first hand what is happening) - they’ve just sent round confirmation (in the hospital I have access to info from) not to use cpap or vent on a sub set of patients who in previous waves would have been.....it’s a pure capacity decision but obviously this now means some people who could have survived with optimal treatment strategies now won’t survive. It’s a very sad situationGlobal covid deaths just broke 2 million today. US deaths now averaging over 20,000 a week.
UK is really getting hammer badly... 1248 deaths yesterday in a population of only 68 million.
that variant is in the UK and starting to spread. Gov seem legit concerned despite our vaccine program being so decent.Update- global deaths now over 3 million.
And new double mutant combo variant taking hold in India? Something to watch. India did surprisingly well thru previous covid waves, given their huge population and dense cities. To have numbers skyrocketing this late in the game is concerning...
‘Double Mutant’ Covid Variant: Here’s What We Know As Israel Reports Vaccine Efficacy Against Variant First Detected In India
The fast-spreading variant of the virus first detected in India has two mutations, seen separately before in other variants, but never together in one variant.www.forbes.com
to me it looks like vaccines aren't working so well?that variant is in the UK and starting to spread. Gov seem legit concerned despite our vaccine program being so decent.
today Boris started talking about a 3rd wave here
this fucking thing is a long way from being over imho
apparently (and I say that as I haven’t a fucking clue but the media say this) the vaccines should still prevent seriousness illness in most cases with these new variants but they aren’t as effective in people actually catching the variantto me it looks like vaccines aren't working so well?
here is what i know for fact from personal experience...my mom lives in assisted living complex. they were on lockdown for over a year. in february they started vaccines, and by 1st of april 95% of residents had been given both doses of vaccine...my sister and i were notified last week that covid cases were on the rise despite 95% of residents being vaccinated--yesterday the assisted living complex went back to lockdown.....you do the math.apparently (and I say that as I haven’t a fucking clue but the media say this) the vaccines should still prevent seriousness illness in most cases with these new variants but they aren’t as effective in people actually catching the variant
what that means in reality I don’t really know, I would have though if they were confident that very few would get seriously ill then it’s no great concern but that doesn’t appear to match with the actions
My thoughts exactlyto me it looks like vaccines aren't working so well?
the risk versus reward isn't stacking up so well, imo.My thoughts exactly
I had 6 guys out last week with confirmed COVID. All of them were vaccinated. That’s a huge sample size considering this is just within 1 company and at the same time. They all had the J&J. The crew that had the Moderna I had 2 that needed emergency medical attention after the 2nd dose. I had the Pfizer and felt disgustingly awful after it and it felt like 20 people took turns punching me in the arm. The risk had better be worth the reward because in my own little anecdotal world this vaccine is horseshit.here is what i know for fact from personal experience...my mom lives in assisted living complex. they were on lockdown for over a year. in february they started vaccines, and by 1st of april 95% of residents had been given both doses of vaccine...my sister and i were notified last week that covid cases were on the rise despite 95% of residents being vaccinated--yesterday the assisted living complex went back to lockdown.....you do the math.
i tested positive for covid and i spit in it's face-i've had colds that were way worse...aint no way i'm going anywhere near any of those damned vaccines!!!!I had 6 guys out last week with confirmed COVID. All of them were vaccinated. That’s a huge sample size considering this is just within 1 company and at the same time. They all had the J&J. The crew that had the Moderna I had 2 that needed emergency medical attention after the 2nd dose. I had the Pfizer and felt disgustingly awful after it and it felt like 20 people took turns punching me in the arm. The risk had better be worth the reward because in my own little anecdotal world this vaccine is horseshit.
Yeah dude that's pretty basic and predictable even from just the science courses I took in school. Also, the mRNA vaccines actually have immunity lasting a little longer. We'll still need boosters for variants but that's also expected because it was unlikely that we would have the entire U.S. population protected one way or another before the virus could mutate. That doesn't mean the vaccines aren't effective or worthwhile though. The mRNA vaccines in particular produce pretty good immunity against most variants and will still save you from severe COVID (which is more common with the new variants).But do you ever really get immunity? The CDC gang says the original china-virus immunity can last as little as 4-6 months. And some of the variants can still get around both natural immunity and vaccine protections. And the variants are changing (and now combining!!) much faster than the vaccines are getting updated.
And CDC says you still need to take ALL of the same precautions AFTER getting vaccinated. I don't see what it really accomplishes for those outside of the small high-risk group.
Hard to convince people to get jabbed with that crap if there is absolutely no incentive to do so. You tell people they don’t have to wear a mask and can to grandmas funeral again and who knows what may happen. Only reason I got the vaccine is because there was something in it for me. Otherwise I would never stick that crap in my body.Yeah dude that's pretty basic and predictable even from just the science courses I took in school. Also, the mRNA vaccines actually have immunity lasting a little longer. We'll still need boosters for variants but that's also expected because it was unlikely that we would have the entire U.S. population protected one way or another before the virus could mutate. That doesn't mean the vaccines aren't effective or worthwhile though. The mRNA vaccines in particular produce pretty good immunity against most variants and will still save you from severe COVID (which is more common with the new variants).
The CDC is still recommending precautions because there's no way for a bunch of people to signal to everyone else they've been vaccinated (so act as if you haven't for the courtesy of others) but they're easing up the *guidelines* as the situation improves.
All in all it just seems like an overblown response to me. Get vaccinated or don't, but if you don't and could have then don't expect a lot of sympathy.
for over a year i was afraid that if i got covid i would A-be hospitalised...B-die from covid.Hard to convince people to get jabbed with that crap if there is absolutely no incentive to do so. You tell people they don’t have to wear a mask and can to grandmas funeral again and who knows what may happen. Only reason I got the vaccine is because there was something in it for me. Otherwise I would never stick that crap in my body.
This whole COVID fiasco has been a test in stupidity and the stupid people have won. COVID logic is mind boggling to say the least. I am glad I live in Oklahoma. Some of y’all got some retarded losers running the show in these states.
worthy of another look-eh?here is what i know for fact from personal experience...my mom lives in assisted living complex. they were on lockdown for over a year. in february they started vaccines, and by 1st of april 95% of residents had been given both doses of vaccine...my sister and i were notified last week that covid cases were on the rise despite 95% of residents being vaccinated--yesterday the assisted living complex went back to lockdown.....you do the math.
give it 6 months then report back.....the protection only lasted a few months at my moms assisted living facility and then cases started going up again and now they have gone back to total shutdown again.Since the vaccination programme got underway in the Uk cases have dropped week on week. I’d say it appears to be working pretty well.
No saying what impact variants will have of course but I’m not sure how you can argue against the vaccine being effective here.
Those incentives still exist and those promises are being kept. On a more fundamental level, the CDC just issues guidelines - your state sets the administrative law on it. It wasn't specifically conditional on getting vaccinated though, it was on being out of a pandemic. Obviously, getting the vaccine or showing prior exposure gives incentives for businesses to want to open their doors to you again first.Hard to convince people to get jabbed with that crap if there is absolutely no incentive to do so. You tell people they don’t have to wear a mask and can to grandmas funeral again and who knows what may happen. Only reason I got the vaccine is because there was something in it for me. Otherwise I would never stick that crap in my body.
This whole COVID fiasco has been a test in stupidity and the stupid people have won. COVID logic is mind boggling to say the least. I am glad I live in Oklahoma. Some of y’all got some retarded losers running the show in these states.
the current agenda of the government is not to federally mandate vaccinations, but i fear they may side track this by giving incentives or penalties to businesses based on vaccine policies.Those incentives still exist and those promises are being kept. On a more fundamental level, the CDC just issues guidelines - your state sets the administrative law on it. It wasn't specifically conditional on getting vaccinated though, it was on being out of a pandemic. Obviously, getting the vaccine or showing prior exposure gives incentives for businesses to want to open their doors to you again first.