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any info on L-laxogenin?

myleslup

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Discovered in 1996, L-laxogenin was proven to possess an anabolic/androgenic ratio reminiscent of perhaps the most efficient anabolic substances, in particular Anavar. The amazing thing is that laxogenin is without side-effects of liver toxicity and users do not test positive for steroidal substances. This product is a plant sterol and primarily helps plants survive drastic or harsh conditions.

is this legit or just another "natty test booster"???
 
myleslup said:
Discovered in 1996, L-laxogenin was proven to possess an anabolic/androgenic ratio reminiscent of perhaps the most efficient anabolic substances, in particular Anavar. The amazing thing is that laxogenin is without side-effects of liver toxicity and users do not test positive for steroidal substances. This product is a plant sterol and primarily helps plants survive drastic or harsh conditions.

is this legit or just another "natty test booster"???
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here is some interesting info I found

this is from Mixelflick a forum member from somewhere else.all of the following is from him so I cannot take credit for any of the follow below.

I know a fair bit about it. 2 companies selling it, one in drops and the other in capsules. Unclear as to if its the genuine article.

Even if it is, consider the quasi (I'm being nice) standards Mark Thierman uses. I've spoken with him on the phone several times. Interesting character.

If you're looking for an ecdy analogue, Ebol contains 25R... one of the 4 sapogenin analogs cited in the former Soviet literature circa 1976.

Not exactly no. When V.N. Syrov's work is behind it (was in many ways his life's work) there is merit. There is also positive anecdotal feedback, myself being one. And no I don't sell it.

It was last commercial available in quantities as "Anabolica" by Maxwell Research, distributed by several outlets but notably BAC in ME. Long discontinued, I bought up a ton of it prior to it disappearing.

Laxogenin was identified as "compound 2" in Syrov's literature and cited for having very favorable effects on LBM in experimental animals. I can tell you that in humans (many including me), it delivered a profound increase in recovery and mitigated DOMS like no other. It is derived from Diosgenin, although it's also present in some plants such as Smilax Sieboldi.

The real issue here is quality of finished product. Some batches worked like gangbusters and some... not so well. I did have Anabolica analyzed and we could only discern it was diosgenin... I'm not sure the lab it was being tested in had a reference standard. There aren't many for Thierman's handywork. He tells me melting point would have elucidated it.

My OPINION: It works exceptionally well as a recovery agent, has some pretty profound anti-inflammatory properties (lupus patients bought it en mass, according to owner of BAC) and was overall a very "efficient" ecdy at just 5 mg/tab.
Very, very interesting and was part of the reason I wrote The Blueprint, which leverages all of the properties adaptogens and related analogs bring to the table. Picture is attached..

Further reading on Laxogenin:

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myleslup said:
Discovered in 1996, L-laxogenin was proven to possess an anabolic/androgenic ratio reminiscent of perhaps the most efficient anabolic substances, in particular Anavar. The amazing thing is that laxogenin is without side-effects of liver toxicity and users do not test positive for steroidal substances. This product is a plant sterol and primarily helps plants survive drastic or harsh conditions.

is this legit or just another "natty test booster"???
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There is much confusion as to this chemical, all over the net.

First, it wasn't discovered in 1996. In fact, it was well known in former Soviet studies, going back to 1976. I happen to have a copy of the paper detailing such. It was from these translated Russian texts, that the eccentric chemist Mark Thierman brough Laxogenin to market in the U.S. in 1991. In fact, his company (Amino Discounters) filed a patent on it in that year.

The parroting of this ad copy leads me to believe that MUCH of the Laxogenin currently on the market is bunk. Buyer beware... It is an interesting product with excellent anti-inflammatory properties (among others). The cut and past info presented above btw, was from a prior post of mine on Laxogenin... :)
 
Mixelflick said:
There is much confusion as to this chemical, all over the net.

First, it wasn't discovered in 1996. In fact, it was well known in former Soviet studies, going back to 1976. I happen to have a copy of the paper detailing such. It was from these translated Russian texts, that the eccentric chemist Mark Thierman brough Laxogenin to market in the U.S. in 1991. In fact, his company (Amino Discounters) filed a patent on it in that year.

The parroting of this ad copy leads me to believe that MUCH of the Laxogenin currently on the market is bunk. Buyer beware... It is an interesting product with excellent anti-inflammatory properties (among others). The cut and past info presented above btw, was from a prior post of mine on Laxogenin... :)
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Reps!!
 
Mixelflick said:
There is much confusion as to this chemical, all over the net.

First, it wasn't discovered in 1996. In fact, it was well known in former Soviet studies, going back to 1976. I happen to have a copy of the paper detailing such. It was from these translated Russian texts, that the eccentric chemist Mark Thierman brough Laxogenin to market in the U.S. in 1991. In fact, his company (Amino Discounters) filed a patent on it in that year.

The parroting of this ad copy leads me to believe that MUCH of the Laxogenin currently on the market is bunk. Buyer beware... It is an interesting product with excellent anti-inflammatory properties (among others). The cut and past info presented above btw, was from a prior post of mine on Laxogenin... :)
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MixelFlick are you still around??
 
I had good results from Anafuse. Haven’t taken it in a long time it’s Epi and Laxo, though you have to take a high oral dose. Some people were talking about a transdermal application but I don’t remember if it came to fruition. I stacked it with Myosynergy and had a nice stack.
 
I felt like this needed some correction. There is no l prefix in the laxogenin.

✔️ Why “L-laxogenin” is incorrect​


The “L-” prefix is typically used to denote chirality (left-handed isomer), as in amino acids (L-leucine) or some chiral molecules. But laxogenin is not sold as separate L- or D- stereoisomers, and the compound does not use an “L-” prefix in chemical nomenclature.


✔️ Correct names you may see​


  • Laxogenin
  • 5-α-hydroxy-laxogenin
  • 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin
 
KimChee said:
I had good results from Anafuse. Haven’t taken it in a long time it’s Epi and Laxo, though you have to take a high oral dose. Some people were talking about a transdermal application but I don’t remember if it came to fruition. I stacked it with Myosynergy and had a nice stack.
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It use to have Laxo in it but they reformulated awhile back and now it just has Epi and a few other things in it. Still works great for a natty anabolic product and recovery though.

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blackdream71 said:
MixelFlick are you still around??
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Sure am, although I only come here once in awhile.

I should note that since this thread started, the situation with Laxogenin has changed - at least in the US. It was (and still may be) considered non-compliant/an "unsafe" dietary supplement. This is the first clue that it does something, and probably a noticeable something for most. Several companies got warning letters from the FDA, although I don't think it appears on any schedule list (as the classic anabolic steroids do).

You may see companies like "Hi-Tech" including it in their formulas. It is doubtful that it's really laxogenin and more likely diosgenin IMO. The comparison to Anavar is irresponsible and ridiculous. "Hi-Tech" BTW is so hi-tech they blatantly copied my writeup on Laxogenin at Predator, almost word for word. A smidgeon of due diligence on that company, its owner and its history tells you everything you need to know.

I still think real laxogenin is a superb anti-inflammatory and helps in recovery from high intensity exercise. IF you get the real thing.
 
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Mixelflick said:
Sure am, although I only come here once in awhile.

I should note that since this thread started, the situation with Laxogenin has changed - at least in the US. It was (and still may be) considered non-compliant/an "unsafe" dietary supplement. This is the first clue that it does something, and probably a noticeable something for most. Several companies got warning letters from the FDA, although I don't think it appears on any schedule list (as the classic anabolic steroids do).

You may see companies like "Hi-Tech" including it in their formulas. It is doubtful that it's really laxogenin and more likely diosgenin IMO. The comparison to Anavar is irresponsible and ridiculous. "Hi-Tech" BTW is so hi-tech they blatantly copied my writeup on Laxogenin at Predator, almost word for word. A smidgeon of due diligence on that company, its owner and its history tells you everything you need to know.

I still think real laxogenin is a superb anti-inflammatory and helps in recovery from high intensity exercise. IF you get the real thing.
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vlsk10 said:
I felt like this needed some correction. There is no l prefix in the laxogenin.

✔️ Why “L-laxogenin” is incorrect​


The “L-” prefix is typically used to denote chirality (left-handed isomer), as in amino acids (L-leucine) or some chiral molecules. But laxogenin is not sold as separate L- or D- stereoisomers, and the compound does not use an “L-” prefix in chemical nomenclature.


✔️ Correct names you may see​


  • Laxogenin
  • 5-α-hydroxy-laxogenin
  • 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin
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I think the D isomer of laxogen is man made and not naturally occurring, don't quote me on that tho. I just remember something about one being naturally occurring and when not. But again, I could be wrong
 
i have probably tried 10 products that were supposed to contain laxogenin, out of the 10 about 3 seemed legit, the first one was a transdermal laxo by olympus labs back in 2013ish when the supplement first came out, got a small strength gain and slight muscle fullness but you could definitely tell it was effective, then my favorite was a supplement called BRAWN by the now defunct brand BPS. it was a high dose oral laxo that gave me similar results to the transdermal laxo i took a few years prior to that, i took many other oral laxo products from multiple brands even took some raw powder from reliable bulk suppliers that did nothing even at high dosages almost double of what i took previously(they even touted on the packaging that is was a trademarked laxosterone). i even went as far as getting it from a research chem company that sold sarms also and theirs was bunk also. i did try oral laxo in liquid from a company i cant say that seemed like it may contain laxo but i dont want to say their name. they sell other oral PH's in liquid and or capsule form. i don't know how they are still around
 
mild strength gain onset of real laxogenin seemed pretty quick for me, usually within the first week or two you can tell. i was feeling pretty strong as to compared to average given the variables of diet/training/sleep
 
lanky said:
mild strength gain onset of real laxogenin seemed pretty quick for me, usually within the first week or two you can tell. i was feeling pretty strong as to compared to average given the variables of diet/training/sleep
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Which laxo?
Thx
 
DaveMcNaul said:
Which laxo?
Thx
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that was transdermal laxo from olympus labs, they stopped selling that product 12 years ago, and "BRAWN" by BPS, they stopped making that in 2018ish. you can try the liquid laxogenin from "UnNaturals Lab", someone said their product was half decent on another message board
 
lanky said:
that was transdermal laxo from olympus labs, they stopped selling that product 12 years ago, and "BRAWN" by BPS, they stopped making that in 2018ish. you can try the liquid laxogenin from "UnNaturals Lab", someone said their product was half decent on another message board
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I thought the laxo 100 from hi tech was legit 🙃.

Thank bud!
 
lanky said:
i tried the laxo from hi tech(2 bottles) maybe 3 years ago but did not notice anything, someone else from this board tried it and said it works
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I didn’t feel anything thing.
At this point I don’t know if I feel anything with other stuff too 😂😂…
 
I found the iconic version worked well. I used with other natty products and had some decent effects.
 
lanky said:
i tried the laxo from hi tech(2 bottles) maybe 3 years ago but did not notice anything, someone else from this board tried it and said it works
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I've tried it a few time and I just received a few more jars that I ordered at Flex It Nut.
I dose 1 tab 3-5 min before my breakfast and 1 tab 3-5 min before dinner and by week 3
my muscles take on a full look all day and by the end of week 4 my joints definitely feel better
considering I've been in the iron game 45 yrs and already take a bunch of joint and tendon
supplements like SNS Cissus, Joint XT, PEA Relief , Fish oil and Microlactin. I'm pretty muscular
and carry very little bodyfat so maybe that's why I see the benefits from Laxogenin and I don't
expect huge strength gains so the two benefits I get such as the muscle fullness and smooth
feeling joints are worth it for me. I run it for 12 weeks and then take a couple of months off of it.
 
DaveMcNaul said:
Bulasterone looks good except for the d-aspartic 🙂‍↔️

What benefits you have from laxo?
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At the time I ran that stack DAA was still the darling of the test boosting market. The Laxo100 I believe gave me better pumps, overall density and good recovery. But then again I'm always running multiple supplements so it's hard to say. This dialog is tempting me to order Bulasterone and Laxogenin 100. It's been 7 years, why not?
 
Top_Alpha said:
At the time I ran that stack DAA was still the darling of the test boosting market. The Laxo100 I believe gave me better pumps, overall density and good recovery. But then again I'm always running multiple supplements so it's hard to say. This dialog is tempting me to order Bulasterone and Laxogenin 100. It's been 7 years, why not?
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Do it!
 
Top_Alpha said:
At the time I ran that stack DAA was still the darling of the test boosting market. The Laxo100 I believe gave me better pumps, overall density and good recovery. But then again I'm always running multiple supplements so it's hard to say. This dialog is tempting me to order Bulasterone and Laxogenin 100. It's been 7 years, why not?
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From the 3 effects that you mentioned it sounds like you responded well to the Laxo 100
because that's what I get from it and my joints feel a little better also.
 
totalpackage said:
From the 3 effects that you mentioned it sounds like you responded well to the Laxo 100
because that's what I get from it and my joints feel a little better also.
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There's also Turkesterone in the Bulasterone, so it may have been coming from both the Bulasterone and the Laxogenin
 
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