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Androhard + trenavar. Critique please

tekno

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Hey guys,

Wanted to get your thoughts on upcoming cycle & PCT...

Going to run 6 weeks of Androhard V3 with he new IBE/PHF trenavar. Def not my first run around, but still like to hear opinions...will run liver support throughout to be safe.

Will start in early January. Goal will be lean mass/strength gains. Diet will be solid and workouts intense...

Anyway, I welcome suggestions critique on both cycle and PCT.

PCT
Clomid
DAA
Reduce (or something similar)
Also have some IBE formex saves up in case...

Anything you guys would add to cycle or PCT to improve or lower risks?
 
Yeah I am pretty excited. Can't wait for it all to arrive. Probably get going 2nd week of January. 5-6 weeks.

Not going to do a full log but will certainly post updates here and there. I am hoping the androhard will provide the "test like" balance most AAS users suggest with real tren. Will probably use some p5p or something else to help control prolactin on case tren creates unwanted sides.

Will probably start DAA and something like endoamp week 4-5, then start clomid, erase, and continue with DAA, etc.

Open for advice or suggestions on additions or subtractions to cycle or pct.
 
I didnt even know trenavar came out yet. I thought it was still In beta.

I would love to see how this works for you.
 
They did a 2000 bottle pre-sale. Ships tomorrow I think (hope). I know there is some debate on the metabolites, but Willin to give it a shot. Read a few beta logs and people were happy with progress on low dosage and very minimal sides.

Still debating on whether I need some real hcg, or if clomid/DAA product/erase type product would suffice in PCT.
 
tekno said:
They did a 2000 bottle pre-sale. Ships tomorrow I think (hope). I know there is some debate on the metabolites, but Willin to give it a shot. Read a few beta logs and people were happy with progress on low dosage and very minimal sides.

Still debating on whether I need some real hcg, or if clomid/DAA product/erase type product would suffice in PCT.
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I don't think you will need real hcg. I never saw any logs come up in here. That sucks man I really wanted to get some. Tren compounds are nice. I'm running trenazone soon. Is this just a similar clone?
 
Was thinking about running androhard and tren for my summer run
 
fightbackhxc said:
Was thinking about running androhard and tren for my summer run
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Real tren?
 
So this is basically the same as the inject? I don't know about that. There is no way it's as anabolic.
 
No way it's the same as the injectable. For one it's oral( which makes a big difference on many levels when it comes to a hormone) and two it is supposedly a pro hormone to tren which will make it no where like actual trenbolone- look at boladrol- that **** sucks
 
The IBE thread in the supplement company section has info. It's the prohormone to trenbolone. In vitro, the conversion rate is very high, like 90%. Of course, it won't be as potent as injecting real tren, but it's a promising compound. There is some debate over how it will metabolize, but if it does what they think (PA has written on this as well), it should be quite good.
 
tekno said:
The IBE thread in the supplement company section has info. It's the prohormone to trenbolone. In vitro, the conversion rate is very high, like 90%. Of course, it won't be as potent as injecting real tren, but it's a promising compound. There is some debate over how it will metabolize, but if it does what they think (PA has written on this as well), it should be quite good.
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I'll look some up. I was looking forward to this anyway. 90% is for marketing, i dont believe that. Still looks great I'll look at it.
 
RH2012 said:
i hope this trenavar pans out. i got my doubts. the in vitro conversion is prob alot higher than in vivo. would be nice to have a non methyl that actually has a decent anabolic effect though.
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Our beta testers hit a home run with our Androbulk and will be available in a few weeks.
 
Tren is not nice on the liver or kidneys despite not being a methylated hormone- it is one of THE harshest steroids out there
 
Got my trenavar today. 30mg dose taken 2 hours pre workout. I admit it could be placebo, but my pumps are still ridiculous 1hr after a somewhat quick chest workout (with a bunch of pull ups). Androhard arrives tomorrow I think.

Will let you know how it goes.
 
tekno said:
Got my trenavar today. 30mg dose taken 2 hours pre workout. I admit it could be placebo, but my pumps are still ridiculous 1hr after a somewhat quick chest workout (with a bunch of pull ups). Androhard arrives tomorrow I think.

Will let you know how it goes.
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cool, so u got the 15mg/90 count bag too

another guy started it too & felt effects within a few hours as wel
 
Yeah I got 2 of the "special bottles". Nice, because I can dose 30/30/37.5/45/45 and get a solid 5 weeks or so from 1 bottle. Given anecdotal feedback so far, 45 might even be a bit high. Will play it by ear.

Just waiting for my androhard to arrive so I can get the synergy from the DHT, and should hedge some "tren" specific sides that may or may not arise.
 
If you did the original pre sale before the 27th, you got 90 count at 15 mgs. The next batch will be 90 at 10mgs. So anyone who ordered early got a little extra.
 
oli said:
can't be methyl-tren if it's being dosed in 10 or 15 mg per cap.

methyl tren, as in, methyltrienolone is dosed in mCg's
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I wasn't saying trenavar is methyl tren, someone stated something about geneza pharmacuticals
 
you will feel it the same day the stuff is potent...trust me . I thought I was taking 40mg and end up taking 60mg when we found they were 15mg instead of 10 I was like oh my god..lol know wonder I was getting bloaded I was on for like 6 days and got off because of the bloat. you will feel the pumps the same day.
 
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