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I'm two weeks deep into an Androgin, Dermacrine and Letrone run and I have to say, my sleep - which has been frustratingly light and broken for many a moon - has been outrageously deep ***touches wood frantically***.
Have a poxy headcold at the moment, and normally when that happens I'm awake all night with congestion etc, but nope, sleeping right through bar the occasional wee during the night due to my pre-bed shake.
Lifts slightly up and have that capped delt look, particularly when doing dips, so something's happening.
Literally a rock solid pump all day in my arms too, which is nuts. I'm just a bit worried of serious suppression with this run, as this kind of 'Swole' (as they say) has to come at a price...
In saying that, I ordered two more bottles of Androgin to Ireland so hopefully they get here before my current bottle runs dry and I start licking the inside of the container for Androdust...
 
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I'm two weeks deep into an Androgin, Dermacrine and Letrone run and I have to say, my sleep - which has been frustratingly light and broken for many a moon - has been outrageously deep ***touches wood frantically***.
Have a poxy headcold at the moment, and normally when that happens I'm awake all night with congestion etc, but nope, sleeping right through bar the occasional wee during the night due to my pre-bed shake.
Lifts slightly up and have that capped delt look, particularly when doing dips, so something's happening.
Literally a rock solid pump all day in my arms too, which is nuts. I'm just a bit worried of serious suppression with this run, as this kind of 'Swole' (as they say) has to come at a price...
In saying that, I ordered two more bottles of Androgin to Ireland so hopefully they get here before my current bottle runs dry and I start licking the inside of the container for Androdust...
I'm also 2 weeks in and also running dermacrine although I may just run one bottle of dermacrine. Sleep is amazing and for the first time in years I'm having amazing deep restful sleep. Feel slightly swole throughout the day and hunger is up, not much more to report right now.
 
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I've heard ppl comment about the possibility of suppression on androgin, would my use of dermacrine alongside androgin make suppression more of a possibility? I do have some iron legion Virtus on hand to combat any estro sides if they arise.
 
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I've heard ppl comment about the possibility of suppression on androgin, would my use of dermacrine alongside androgin make suppression more of a possibility? I do have some iron legion Virtus on hand to combat any estro sides if they arise.
Aye, that's pretty much my worry as well. I was going to run 2 bottles Androgin, 2 bottles Dermacrine and Letrone/Virtus and then go Sustain Alpha, Rebirth and M-Test on the ar$e end of that run, but I think you're probably right only doing 1 bottle of Derma. I might take a leaf out of your book there.
But then I'm reading other reports that it's cool to run Androgin as a staple?
 
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We havnt had any reports of labs coming back showing suppression. The labs that someone ran and posted to one of the Androgin threads showed slightly decreased test levels but that person was low carb and dieting on lower cals which will lower test levels in itself.

Others who tested Androgin and ran labs showed slightly increased test levels or test levels that weren’t decreased.

With that said, I’m not sure if the Dhea in Dermacrine will have a suppression effect as Dhea can convert to hormones that can definitely cause suppression but I’ve never seen labs run on Dermacrine.

Either way a run of Androgin with or without Dermacrine will be solid. If you run Androgin with Dermacrine id run a light PCT just in case. If no Dermacrine is run then no PCT should be needed and you can run Androgin as long as you want.
 
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Are you guys re-stocking Vector (I was told it would be in stock for may 14)??
 

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I've got an incorrect order again. I reached out to the Jonah email as well as the website inquiry.
 
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Are you guys re-stocking Vector (I was told it would be in stock for may 14)??
Vector should be right around the corner. Shipping has been extremely slow, we apologize for any delays.
 
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I've got an incorrect order again. I reached out to the Jonah email as well as the website inquiry.
Sorry to hear your order was incorrect. If you reached out via the website someone should get back to you in the next couple days. Things have been really crazy at BLR.
 
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Are you guys re-stocking Vector (I was told it would be in stock for may 14)??
Should be just a few days now. Things have been taking longer than normal due to some customs issues we had with raw materials. We have everything and vector should be ready by Monday I would think.
 
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I've got an incorrect order again. I reached out to the Jonah email as well as the website inquiry.
Always just reach out through the contact page and someone will get back to you as soon as possible.
Usually this is pretty quick, sometimes it might take 12-24 hr.
 
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Hey guys,

I know this is not the appropriate place but I had a face off with customs and it seems they will send my order back as they will not allow Androgin to enter my country (they don't even know what it is lmao) what should I do now?

Await for it to be returned and then ask refund upon arrival confirmation (minus shipping)?

But man, I'm beyond sad, I was sooo pumped to get my 3 month run started!! :cry:

*I ordered through BLR
 
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Hey guys,

I know this is not the appropriate place but I had a face off with customs and it seems they will send my order back as they will not allow Androgin to enter my country (they don't even know what it is lmao) what should I do now?

Await for it to be returned and then ask refund upon arrival confirmation (minus shipping)?

But man, I'm beyond sad, I was sooo pumped to get my 3 month run started!! :cry:

*I ordered through BLR
This ISNT the place for this.
Contact us through our contact page on website. Most likely we will just refund when the product arrives. No worries.
 
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This ISNT the place for this.
Contact us through our contact page on website. Most likely we will just refund when the product arrives. No worries.
Thank you!

I did to the email referred on the invoice, is that seen too?

(I already did thru the website last week, I'll await, I know you guys must be super busy with the new orders from restock)
 
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One bottle down. Ive scaled up to doing 2 in the morning, 2 afternoon, 1 evening. An expensive run but it's super noticable still. 4 bottles left.
 
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One bottle down. Ive scaled up to doing 2 in the morning, 2 afternoon, 1 evening. An expensive run but it's super noticable still. 4 bottles left.
Besides sleeping well what else is noticeable dropping 5caps a day?
 

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One bottle down. Ive scaled up to doing 2 in the morning, 2 afternoon, 1 evening. An expensive run but it's super noticable still. 4 bottles left.
That’s a 12 day supply, basically a lil over 4 dollars a day which equates to $125 a month. Seems like a lot of money
 

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First time poster here. Iv read every thread about Androgin there is and am currently moving on to bottle 3. I have 6 bottles after that as I fell in love just after bottle number one! Iv had amazing sleep and the dreams have been insanely vivid, which is exciting to me as I haven’t dreamt in years!
but as for what they claim Androgin to do, it’s the truth in my case. I may just be one who responds well to it, but the results after two bottles have been exciting for me as I’m a relatively small guy.
Beginning Androgin I was 132lbs. (5’7)
After bottle two I am at 139.5lbs.
Strength gains are awesome as I increase reps and weight with each and every work. (6 day split)
Iv never filled out my shirts like this before lmao
I just wanted to comment and say thanks for the awesome product!
 
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First time poster here. Iv read every thread about Androgin there is and am currently moving on to bottle 3. I have 6 bottles after that as I fell in love just after bottle number one! Iv had amazing sleep and the dreams have been insanely vivid, which is exciting to me as I haven’t dreamt in years!
but as for what they claim Androgin to do, it’s the truth in my case. I may just be one who responds well to it, but the results after two bottles have been exciting for me as I’m a relatively small guy.
Beginning Androgin I was 132lbs. (5’7)
After bottle two I am at 139.5lbs.
Strength gains are awesome as I increase reps and weight with each and every work. (6 day split)
Iv never filled out my shirts like this before lmao
I just wanted to comment and say thanks for the awesome product!
Thanks for feedback!
 
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I feel high T. Similar to back when I did dieselbolin and some other toxic PHs. Feels a lot more clean though. Libido is pretty rediculous too. If this really doesn't shut down natural test production it's awesome.
That's awesome!
 

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So just wanted to post an update - I haven’t been logging this or anything but just some notes from my experience now that I am 2 bottles in and planning to run at least 3 more....
Sleep has been tremendous - this has been a theme since day 1. I struggle with sleep (falling asleep and sleeping deeply, frequent wake ups, etc.) and this has helped enormously with that. The vivid dreams are a plus
Strength - I am not extremely experienced so probably have some continued newbie gains (only a year or two into training) but I am constantly improving every week in either reps or weight. This is new.
Muscle growth - I am cutting and looking to get down to 8% bodyfat. This has allowed me to do so with ease (still 7 more weeks to go before I’m at 8%) and I don’t even feel like I’m cutting. Over the last 9 weeks, I am down 11 lbs in fat and have gained about 1.5 lbs of lean tissue. I could not be any happier with that.
All in all, I’m not usually one for supplements, but this has really got my attention and I want to run it for a fair bit longer than I had originally intended. One thing I am noticing slightly is that some of the effects I felt so strongly at the beginning have diminished (libido, etc) but it could also be because I am sub 12% bodyfat now and in a deficit where hormones take a hit, so inconclusive. Either way, I couldn’t be happier.
 
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So just wanted to post an update - I haven’t been logging this or anything but just some notes from my experience now that I am 2 bottles in and planning to run at least 3 more....
Sleep has been tremendous - this has been a theme since day 1. I struggle with sleep (falling asleep and sleeping deeply, frequent wake ups, etc.) and this has helped enormously with that. The vivid dreams are a plus
Strength - I am not extremely experienced so probably have some continued newbie gains (only a year or two into training) but I am constantly improving every week in either reps or weight. This is new.
Muscle growth - I am cutting and looking to get down to 8% bodyfat. This has allowed me to do so with ease (still 7 more weeks to go before I’m at 8%) and I don’t even feel like I’m cutting. Over the last 9 weeks, I am down 11 lbs in fat and have gained about 1.5 lbs of lean tissue. I could not be any happier with that.
All in all, I’m not usually one for supplements, but this has really got my attention and I want to run it for a fair bit longer than I had originally intended. One thing I am noticing slightly is that some of the effects I felt so strongly at the beginning have diminished (libido, etc) but it could also be because I am sub 12% bodyfat now and in a deficit where hormones take a hit, so inconclusive. Either way, I couldn’t be happier.
Love the feedback!

With the libido it’s definitely hard to say conclusively. However if your calories or macros are lower and your body fat set point isn’t generally close to 12% then that can definitely have a negative effect on libido.

I know when I get around 10% BF and when cardio is higher and carbs and fat are lower my libido goes into the toilet.
 
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So just wanted to post an update - I haven’t been logging this or anything but just some notes from my experience now that I am 2 bottles in and planning to run at least 3 more....
Sleep has been tremendous - this has been a theme since day 1. I struggle with sleep (falling asleep and sleeping deeply, frequent wake ups, etc.) and this has helped enormously with that. The vivid dreams are a plus
Strength - I am not extremely experienced so probably have some continued newbie gains (only a year or two into training) but I am constantly improving every week in either reps or weight. This is new.
Muscle growth - I am cutting and looking to get down to 8% bodyfat. This has allowed me to do so with ease (still 7 more weeks to go before I’m at 8%) and I don’t even feel like I’m cutting. Over the last 9 weeks, I am down 11 lbs in fat and have gained about 1.5 lbs of lean tissue. I could not be any happier with that.
All in all, I’m not usually one for supplements, but this has really got my attention and I want to run it for a fair bit longer than I had originally intended. One thing I am noticing slightly is that some of the effects I felt so strongly at the beginning have diminished (libido, etc) but it could also be because I am sub 12% bodyfat now and in a deficit where hormones take a hit, so inconclusive. Either way, I couldn’t be happier.
That’s great progress!! Glad you’re enjoying it and thank you for the feedback!
 

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This is a great product but access in Australia is terrible.
bottle 2 had a one month delay, but made it in time
Bottle 3 looks like it’s captured by customs (facepalm) so won’t be getting it.
Purchased thru Strong.
Are there any local distributors?
 

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This is a great product but access in Australia is terrible.
bottle 2 had a one month delay, but made it in time
Bottle 3 looks like it’s captured by customs (facepalm) so won’t be getting it.
Purchased thru Strong.
Are there any local distributors?
 
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This is a great product but access in Australia is terrible.
bottle 2 had a one month delay, but made it in time
Bottle 3 looks like it’s captured by customs (facepalm) so won’t be getting it.
Purchased thru Strong.
Are there any local distributors?
Caveman Nutrition is the only place that sells it but they are out of stock currently aswell...
 
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This is a great product but access in Australia is terrible.
bottle 2 had a one month delay, but made it in time
Bottle 3 looks like it’s captured by customs (facepalm) so won’t be getting it.
Purchased thru Strong.
Are there any local distributors?
You could try to talk local vitamin stores into stocking it, but I think it's considered high risk. Did you talk to customs? I don't think it's illegal there is it?
 
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The best. I’m loving every bit of it
 
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Anyone?? Reps, loggers, someone that knows someone
I peaked at 154lbs and I started at 145-148lbs depending on my day but to get to 154 somethings working lol . (Hint hint androgin)
 
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Any female reviews or use? Thinking the sleep for the wife might make it worth it.
I’ve bought some but haven’t started using it yet. Plan to in the next few weeks.
 
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Caveman Nutrition is the only place that sells it but they are out of stock currently aswell...
Stock headed to them.
 
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Just bought another bottle. This time I will try dosing higher. Thinking 4 caps. Best way to dose?

2AM/2PM or 3 preworkout and another later in the day?
 
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Has anyone seen better results / effects to your knowledge from using 4/day vs. 2/day or not really?
I can't comment on 4 caps a day. But when I was doing 3 a day consistently, my leg press PR went up 10 pounds weekly easily. As soon as I dropped to 2 caps, my leg press is noticeably more difficult.
 
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Has anyone seen better results / effects to your knowledge from using 4/day vs. 2/day or not really?
Feel free to take more, its your wallet.
But it isnt needed. The problem is one person says they take more and everyone thinks they need to take more.
The dose is set where it is for a reason.


I take 2 and Ive regained 23lbs in the last couple of months.
 
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Its been a bit since I have given any major updates so I thought I would give everyone an idea of whats ahead.

1. BLR and Antaeus are working together on a new project that has been in the works for some time now.
There will be a new brand coming in the next couple of months.
I have been mentioning a new stimulant. It took ALOT of work but we have something exceptional.
Patented. Novel stimulant.
This stuff puts every stim presently used in supps to shame. Smoother/cleaner, no jitters, long half life, absolutely no crash.
Most of all its powerful. Stronger than caffeine by a good deal.
A single dose gives me crisp strong stimulation for HOURS.
Combined with other stims....well....its not for the faint of heart.
This is not something anyone has seen or heard of.
It is 100% natural (I have it growing in my yard presently) quite the beautiful plant. And we have tested the plant confirming the chemical is present. This is not a magic show where we try to pass off something 100% synthetic.
You can expect to see 2 products in the next 60 days or so.
One will be a liquid fat burner. Utilizing the new stim and several new trademarked and or patented ingredients.
These are all highly potent, highly soluble, highly bioavailable. The potion is rapidly absorbed and the fat burning effects are absolutely insane.
For now and for the foreseeable future this will only be available through our brands. HINT
Eventually we will license it.

Over the next 6 months this company will be introducing some pretty interesting things. Revolutionary.
Most will be patented and trademarked ingredients that will be utilized first by our brands and then offered for licensing.
Some you have never heard of
Some you may have but we have either augmented or created analogues etc.
Either way there are some major changes coming for the nutraceutical industry

2. on the BLR side.
We have a new transdermal coming.
We have major changes coming to the whole lineup as we update the products.
Many of the products will have changes coming. And I dont mean we are going to F up the formulas like so many brands do when they change formulas. These changes will be additive only. 0 subtractions.
We are just adding new ingredients to make the products better.
Wait till you see what we are cooking up
 
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Its been a bit since I have given any major updates so I thought I would give everyone an idea of whats ahead.

1. BLR and Antaeus are working together on a new project that has been in the works for some time now.
There will be a new brand coming in the next couple of months.
I have been mentioning a new stimulant. It took ALOT of work but we have something exceptional.
Patented. Novel stimulant.
This stuff puts every stim presently used in supps to shame. Smoother/cleaner, no jitters, long half life, absolutely no crash.
Most of all its powerful. Stronger than caffeine by a good deal.
A single dose gives me crisp strong stimulation for HOURS.
Combined with other stims....well....its not for the faint of heart.
This is not something anyone has seen or heard of.
It is 100% natural (I have it growing in my yard presently) quite the beautiful plant. And we have tested the plant confirming the chemical is present. This is not a magic show where we try to pass off something 100% synthetic.
You can expect to see 2 products in the next 60 days or so.
One will be a liquid fat burner. Utilizing the new stim and several new trademarked and or patented ingredients.
These are all highly potent, highly soluble, highly bioavailable. The potion is rapidly absorbed and the fat burning effects are absolutely insane.
For now and for the foreseeable future this will only be available through our brands. HINT
Eventually we will license it.

Over the next 6 months this company will be introducing some pretty interesting things. Revolutionary.
Most will be patented and trademarked ingredients that will be utilized first by our brands and then offered for licensing.
Some you have never heard of
Some you may have but we have either augmented or created analogues etc.
Either way there are some major changes coming for the nutraceutical industry

2. on the BLR side.
We have a new transdermal coming.
We have major changes coming to the whole lineup as we update the products.
Many of the products will have changes coming. And I dont mean we are going to F up the formulas like so many brands do when they change formulas. These changes will be additive only. 0 subtractions.
We are just adding new ingredients to make the products better.
Wait till you see what we are cooking up
All awesome!
 

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Cool, look forward to it. I was curious what happened to Antaeus
 
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Its been a bit since I have given any major updates so I thought I would give everyone an idea of whats ahead.

1. BLR and Antaeus are working together on a new project that has been in the works for some time now.
There will be a new brand coming in the next couple of months.
I have been mentioning a new stimulant. It took ALOT of work but we have something exceptional.
Patented. Novel stimulant.
This stuff puts every stim presently used in supps to shame. Smoother/cleaner, no jitters, long half life, absolutely no crash.
Most of all its powerful. Stronger than caffeine by a good deal.
A single dose gives me crisp strong stimulation for HOURS.
Combined with other stims....well....its not for the faint of heart.
This is not something anyone has seen or heard of.
It is 100% natural (I have it growing in my yard presently) quite the beautiful plant. And we have tested the plant confirming the chemical is present. This is not a magic show where we try to pass off something 100% synthetic.
You can expect to see 2 products in the next 60 days or so.
One will be a liquid fat burner. Utilizing the new stim and several new trademarked and or patented ingredients.
These are all highly potent, highly soluble, highly bioavailable. The potion is rapidly absorbed and the fat burning effects are absolutely insane.
For now and for the foreseeable future this will only be available through our brands. HINT
Eventually we will license it.

Over the next 6 months this company will be introducing some pretty interesting things. Revolutionary.
Most will be patented and trademarked ingredients that will be utilized first by our brands and then offered for licensing.
Some you have never heard of
Some you may have but we have either augmented or created analogues etc.
Either way there are some major changes coming for the nutraceutical industry

2. on the BLR side.
We have a new transdermal coming.
We have major changes coming to the whole lineup as we update the products.
Many of the products will have changes coming. And I dont mean we are going to F up the formulas like so many brands do when they change formulas. These changes will be additive only. 0 subtractions.
We are just adding new ingredients to make the products better.
Wait till you see what we are cooking up
Any eta on the the nootropic? Have a test next week and focus XT isn’t cutting it
 

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This is a very nice stack that I have been running for quite some time now.

I have been taking AE for at least 18 months straight now.
I have been using BMP for almost a year in a row.
I use ARA 2-3 times a year.
I have been running Triad constantly for many many years.
I immediately invested in androgen and bought it for a year of uninterrupted use. I'm in the second half of the third jar.
The first thing that struck me was the sleep which became phenomenal. Dreaming every night and waking up fresh ready for a new day.
I also experience a different energy both in the gym and during the day.
So so far I like what I have experienced. It will be an exciting year. If more interesting products come out, they will of course be tried.
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I have been taking AE for at least 18 months straight now.
I have been using BMP for almost a year in a row.
I use ARA 2-3 times a year.
I have been running Triad constantly for many many years.
I immediately invested in androgen and bought it for a year of uninterrupted use. I'm in the second half of the third jar.
The first thing that struck me was the sleep which became phenomenal. Dreaming every night and waking up fresh ready for a new day.
I also experience a different energy both in the gym and during the day.
So so far I like what I have experienced. It will be an exciting year. If more interesting products come out, they will of course be tried. View attachment 206027
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By the gods that is the ultimate natty stack
 

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This is a very nice stack that I have been running for quite some time now.

I have been taking AE for at least 18 months straight now.
I have been using BMP for almost a year in a row.
I use ARA 2-3 times a year.
I have been running Triad constantly for many many years.
I immediately invested in androgen and bought it for a year of uninterrupted use. I'm in the second half of the third jar.
The first thing that struck me was the sleep which became phenomenal. Dreaming every night and waking up fresh ready for a new day.
I also experience a different energy both in the gym and during the day.
So so far I like what I have experienced. It will be an exciting year. If more interesting products come out, they will of course be tried. View attachment 206027
Need to know what your results have been from this stack?
 

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