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Androgen Receptor Rebooting?

dsade

dsade

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Odd...very odd...new hypothesis of mine using some semi-common ingredients and a couple of semi-novel ingredients.

I am up 5 pounds in the last week and a half, and my bench is BACK up to around 360 after a massive falloff when I switched to Hammers.

My arms are around 19.5 inches, up around a half inch in the last 2 1/2 weeks.

No more details just yet, until I confer with some others that are more versed in receptor characteristics.
 
This is something i need horribly. Even taken off months from anabolics doesnt seem to yield the gains anymore i long for! Dsade ill give tree fiddy if you get dis herr to worrkk!
 
Just had a conversation with someone in the know...seems after we thought about it for a few minutes, and went over some stuff, he says it is entirely possible to sort of amplify first some of the non-primary pathways of androgenic signaling by blocking certain "types" of binding, then when the obstruction is removed, the signal shifts back to primary pathway. Now, whether the signal is actually stronger because of the temporary removal, or the shift in pathways throws everything for a loop, it certainly shows me that I have more experimentation to do to see if I can keep this up.

^^^ confusing as ****, but flying semi-blind here. Human Guinea Pig.
 
I definately wish i was smart about compounds n the like. I like testin stuff out and if i knew how to or what to use id be doing this all the time, but unfortunately i am not the well versed to compounds that may ellicit actions like this. I guess if i looked things up and so forth maybe. lol
 
dsade said:
Just had a conversation with someone in the know...seems after we thought about it for a few minutes, and went over some stuff, he says it is entirely possible to sort of amplify first some of the non-primary pathways of androgenic signaling by blocking certain "types" of binding, then when the obstruction is removed, the signal shifts back to primary pathway. Now, whether the signal is actually stronger because of the temporary removal, or the shift in pathways throws everything for a loop, it certainly shows me that I have more experimentation to do to see if I can keep this up.

^^^ confusing as ****, but flying semi-blind here. Human Guinea Pig.
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So are we hypothesizing an upregulation/increase to receptor count, or increase in sensitivity?
 
Carnitine (i.e PLCAR, ALCAR, LCT) is rather sufficient in enhancing AR proliferation, as well as protecting against AR oxidization during intense exercise.

It works great, but with the #'s Matt's throwing around, I reckon it's a little something else.
 
I speculated whether some form of carnitine was in the mix. I pop ~1gm pre-workout of ALC, hoping it'll help increase ARs (and I have a bunch of bulk from NP).
 
thesinner said:
Carnitine (i.e PLCAR, ALCAR, LCT) is rather sufficient in enhancing AR proliferation, as well as protecting against AR oxidization during intense exercise.

It works great, but with the #'s Matt's throwing around, I reckon it's a little something else.
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This is definitely a part of it...definitely.

Think counter-intuitive for the rest.
 
Mass_69 said:
I speculated whether some form of carnitine was in the mix. I pop ~1gm pre-workout of ALC, hoping it'll help increase ARs (and I have a bunch of bulk from NP).
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From the research I've seen, 13mmol is the magic number. This equates to 2-4g of the various salts.

I hear ya though. I supplement 3g of ALCAR on a daily basis. I really love it. Tons of benefits in terms of male health alone. Increased free carnitines have a profound effect on enhanced sperm quality. Man, I wish I had the hard drive from my old computer, I had a lot of research I had found on carnitine.
 
Well guess what, I get to be the guineau pig for this one. I took what I was given so we shall see. Not that I want to be bigger,lol!
 
I wish I had some circulating androgens to be sensitive to. Being sick all winter has sucked the mojo right out of the Bio.

Hey, it rhymes. Sorta.
 
Ok so lets see here...

Heres the ultimate cycle!

Havoc
DCP
Reboot
Magnaform
Guthealth
Atomic Meltdown

Seriously thats a straight up summer stack!! hahah :drunk:
 
3clipseGT said:
Ok so lets see here...

Heres the ultimate cycle!

Havoc
DCP
Reboot
Magnaform
Guthealth
Atomic Meltdown

Seriously thats a straight up summer stack!! hahah :drunk:
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It's a race against the clock, for sure.

and you forgot NOxidant and GUT health, to mitigate all the alcohol damage from drinking Corona's and eating Shrimp Tacos on the beach!
 
dsade said:
It's a race against the clock, for sure.

and you forgot NOxidant and GUT health, to mitigate all the alcohol damage from drinking Corona's and eating Shrimp Tacos on the beach!
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Hey hey i got Gut health in there!! But i did forget NOxidant! So definately! Damn you dsade! Im gonna just be signin my damn check to you! lol I love it though and cant wait!
 
Oops...I meant Java Lather...damn, I can't even keep things straight.


And don't forget Entice, to tempt the little honey-flies into your web.
 
dsade said:
Oops...I meant Java Lather...damn, I can't even keep things straight.


And don't forget Entice, to tempt the little honey-flies into your web.
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Hahaha damn! Hell yea gotta get me some of that too! Ur killin me bro! Love the products though most def so i have no problem givin my money to you guys! hahah.. Come here chicky chicky chicky! Let me Entice you! :lol:
 
thesinner said:
Are you implying there's cobwebs growing down there? I'm offended.
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Either that or you are in sore need of some antibiotics STAT!
 
it's not a tumor, it's just a BUMP

Edit: ok, that was really lame. It sounded a lot cooler in my head.
 
dsade said:
Just had a conversation with someone in the know...seems after we thought about it for a few minutes, and went over some stuff, he says it is entirely possible to sort of amplify first some of the non-primary pathways of androgenic signaling by blocking certain "types" of binding, then when the obstruction is removed, the signal shifts back to primary pathway. Now, whether the signal is actually stronger because of the temporary removal, or the shift in pathways throws everything for a loop, it certainly shows me that I have more experimentation to do to see if I can keep this up.
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So, you're saying by bypassing the primary pathway, you may instigate some kind of reset "mechanism" relating to the primary pathway, once you remove the detour? Sounds intriguing.
 
I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.

I'm not meaning to switch topic at all, but just curious to know when the Entice will be available?

The Slick Pleasures is on its way in a little while. ;):D
 
Wish I could share more details, but I am definitely onto something.
 
Any updates on resetting those pathways? Got some insider tips such as:

1. Vitamin D in the morning?
2. Saw Palmetto in the morning?

....Etc?

:box:
 
wildfox said:
Re: ALCAR, it is an oxidizer, so be sure to take some ALA with it too (google it)
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Carnitine is an antioxidant.

Acetaldehyde, an acute metabolite, is a free radical, though.


An oxidizer is usually a very strong acid, halogen, or ligand with a large oxidation number in the central atom.
 
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