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AMS and DelSolRob team up to reek Havoc with LiquiDrone

Thanks guys!

something to note for tonight:
I was noticeably more agile in my tournament tonight. normally I feel really slow when I get up this high in weight, but tonight I was on my toes and played the best I ever have.

the weight that I've put on feels dense and usable.
 
Lookn big bro!
 
Todays workout Chest​

Flat DB Press:
75x15
95x10
110x8
125x5 (had liftoff)

HS incline (weight is on each side):
65x12
90x10
115x7

Close grip chest press:
115x12
155x8
155x7 rp 155x3

pushup burnout routine x 2

Notes:
I wish I could call the 125's on flat a PR...but I can say that I haven't been able to do them in a long time! I was thinking about how dismal my numbers were when I returned from my last trip and it's just amazing how my strength has come up since then.

I've been starting with incline for so long that I wanted to see how much weight I could push when I startout with flat DB Press. The 110's went up so easy that I couldn't help but give the 125's a shot...that's the biggest db's my gym has :D

I've been carb cycling and I def added in a few extra today, but I was also running off 3 hours of sleep from last night and I was dead tired all day. I got stuck going back to work after my tournament last nightin the lab at work until 3am, and then I had to be back at 8am...crunch time before my trip. Tonight, I left the gym, went home, drank my protein shake and went to bed for a few hours...now I'm back in the lab at work :(
 
ahhh yeah...chest is def tight today!!!
 
really started to notice today that my tricep tendon in my right arm is sore and the back of my elbow is a little swolen.
 
Nice workouts bud! Sorry to hear about the elbow :( get an elbow wrap foo!
 
DAAANG! Strong Chest Bro! 125s? Very Nice Bro! WO looks SOILD and seems to have alot of intestity through it!
 
haha, Tiger balm cures everything right Timber?
 
Thanks guys, I'm extremely pleased with my current strength!

I'm thinking that i'm going to do legs and back tomorrow and Chest and shoulders on Tuesday.

I did some HIIT and abs on Sat, I forgot how long it's been since I really hit my abs...my abs sore to the touch right now!
 
I was doing my morning poses in the mirror after I got out of the shower, I was noticing how lean I'm starting to get (lean by my standards as an FFB). I really wish this wasn't the last few days of this run!!!

I was thinking about my gains and I wonder how much I'll dry out in PCT because the dermacrine prob caused some wet gains.

I was planning on starting the DTH the last 3 days of my cycle, I'm wondering if it's a good idea to break the seal on the bottle before I get on the plane. Last time i went to China I made sure that I had fresh/sealed bottles for all the supps I took with me. anyone know if that really matters?
 
I dont know if a sealed bottle matters if its in your suitcase. But if you have a hairdryer and a shrink seal you can just re-seal it yourself.
 
I remember I emptied a bottle of Vit C and put in my Epi caps to take to NY. I was too nervous about getting caught.
 
no, I don't usually use test booster any other time but PCT.
 
delsolrob said:
no, I don't usually use test booster any other time but PCT.
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It probably will not be a problem. I'd just hate to see that get confiscated when you really need it. I had no problems with supps in China or Singapore... but stranger things have happened.

You may just want to go get one of those M,T,W,TR,F,Sa,Su things from the drugstore and load it up.
 
Anything for a Cavity Search!
 
sorry for the lack of updates guys! I dislocated my thumb on Tuesday and spending 8 hours in the ER really disrupted my schedule before leaving for my trip...I left for China on Wed!

I'll get my final review posted tonight (China Time) and I have my post cycle pics :D

also, I made it into china with my SERM ;)
 
O OUCHIE!!! Sorry to hear about the thumb.... Atleast it wasnt an ankle or shoulder tho!

Good to hear you made it, and made it with SERM! Woot!

Waiting on pics cause i cant sleep, AGAIN! WTH??? ARG!!!
 
Teg said:
O OUCHIE!!! Sorry to hear about the thumb.... Atleast it wasnt an ankle or shoulder tho!

Good to hear you made it, and made it with SERM! Woot!

Waiting on pics cause i cant sleep, AGAIN! WTH??? ARG!!!
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Thanks bud! the sad part about the injury is how I got it...I was playing in my local dodgeball league and got hit in the thumb when trying to catch a ball.

a lot of people have a hard time sleeping while they're ON. I almost always use powerfull or x-dream when I'm ON; it usually does the trick.
 
O man that is a sucky way to have it happen.... But better there then a major body part!

Ya thats what a couple ppl told me. Ive been taking 3nitetime zma with a 10mg Ambien which has been working good up until last nite and tonite! Owell

But im glad to see you posted back up and got the SERM there bro! Stoked to see these pics and final thoughts for sure! A couple guys have asked me how the liquid AMS stuff is and i say its been great so far on the 1andro/4-ad and a couple other guys i know running LiquiDrone and theyve liked it alot as well!
 
Glad to hear you were able to get your SERM into china! Sorry about the teh thumb! :(

Lookin forward to the final review!
 
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first, I appologize for the late summary!

I knew this trip was going to be busy, but I didn't realize I was going to be working over 100 hours a week for nearly a month...it's been crazy!

starting weight: 187
ending weight:197

Mass (DSR rating - 9):
I put on the majority of my weight gains in the first couple weeks of the cycle​
Leaning effects (DSR rating - 9):
I really noticed the leaning effects the latter half of my run. I guessed that my BF was about 14% at the beginning of my run, I didn't have a chance to get my numbers dialed in before I left on my business trip...but I can def see the difference!​

sides (DSR Rating - 5):
I stuggled with appetite throughout this run, I really felt like i was forcing myself to eat most of the way through...I bet I could have added more mass if I could have forces myself to eat more. some have speculated this was caused by the liver toxicity of the havoc.

I got some acne as well, I'm guessing this was caused by the dermacrine though.

dreaded gyno! 2 days before I left for China I started to notice a little sensitivity in my right nip. by the time I got here it was a painful bump...I wasn't overly concerned with this since I was starting Nolva when I arrived. but, I was running 150mg of P-5-P ED and 20mg of Nolva ED for 10 days and lump has not gone away! I'm now running 10mg of nolva ED because I don't have enough with me to get through my trip at 20mg ED. it's still sore, but not nearly as painful as it had been. it's also not as hard as it was, but I'm bothered by the fact that it hasn't gone away and I have really limited resources here! I had a gyno flair up in my m-drol run, but that didn't compare to the pain I've experienced here. there were times that the weight of my shirt on my nip caused discomfort. at one point it was bad enough that I was considering an exacto knife and some tweezers :(​

aggression (DSR Rating 8):
this was an amazing tool during this run...really pushed me in the gym, but I did notice that I had to keep myself in check in other aspects of life.​

strength (DSR Rating 8):
considering how low my strength was at the beggining of this run, I'm amazed at how much I was able to recover in the few weeks I had. going from struggling with 70's on DB press to pump'n out 125's was nothing shy of amazing!​

Overall (DSR Rating 7.5):
the balance of sides to gains/leaning was great (with the exception of the gyno)...I'm really happy with my progress here! I'm curious as to what prompted the gyno. my guess would be the dermacrine, but it could have also been prolactin induced...although I was not experiencing any lactating.

I'd be interested in running this liquidrone solo, but I'd prob attempt a longer run of 6 weeks or so.

I made as much progress in this 4 week run as I did in my 8 week pulse of Epi last summer. Some of my progress was hard to explain to the people around me :D​
 
delsolrob said:
first, I appologize for the late summary!

I knew this trip was going to be busy, but I didn't realize I was going to be working over 100 hours a week for nearly a month...it's been crazy!

starting weight: 187
ending weight:197

Mass (DSR rating - 9):
I put on the majority of my weight gains in the first couple weeks of the cycle​
Leaning effects (DSR rating - 9):
I really noticed the leaning effects the latter half of my run. I guessed that my BF was about 14% at the beginning of my run, I didn't have a chance to get my numbers dialed in before I left on my business trip...but I can def see the difference!​

sides (DSR Rating - 5):
I stuggled with appetite throughout this run, I really felt like i was forcing myself to eat most of the way through...I bet I could have added more mass if I could have forces myself to eat more. some have speculated this was caused by the liver toxicity of the havoc.

I got some acne as well, I'm guessing this was caused by the dermacrine though.

dreaded gyno! 2 days before I left for China I started to notice a little sensitivity in my right nip. by the time I got here it was a painful bump...I wasn't overly concerned with this since I was starting Nolva when I arrived. but, I was running 150mg of P-5-P ED and 20mg of Nolva ED for 10 days and lump has not gone away! I'm now running 10mg of nolva ED because I don't have enough with me to get through my trip at 20mg ED. it's still sore, but not nearly as painful as it had been. it's also not as hard as it was, but I'm bothered by the fact that it hasn't gone away and I have really limited resources here! I had a gyno flair up in my m-drol run, but that didn't compare to the pain I've experienced here. there were times that the weight of my shirt on my nip caused discomfort. at one point it was bad enough that I was considering an exacto knife and some tweezers :(​

aggression (DSR Rating 8):
this was an amazing tool during this run...really pushed me in the gym, but I did notice that I had to keep myself in check in other aspects of life.​

strength (DSR Rating 8):
considering how low my strength was at the beggining of this run, I'm amazed at how much I was able to recover in the few weeks I had. going from struggling with 70's on DB press to pump'n out 125's was nothing shy of amazing!​

Overall (DSR Rating 7.5):
the balance of sides to gains/leaning was great (with the exception of the gyno)...I'm really happy with my progress here! I'm curious as to what prompted the gyno. my guess would be the dermacrine, but it could have also been prolactin induced...although I was not experiencing any lactating.

I'd be interested in running this liquidrone solo, but I'd prob attempt a longer run of 6 weeks or so.

I made as much progress in this 4 week run as I did in my 8 week pulse of Epi last summer. Some of my progress was hard to explain to the people around me :D​
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I almost guarantee you it was prolactin and the Liquidrone. The Dermacrine should not have been able to aromatize because of the epistane.
 
Thanks for Chiming in G! but, I'm a little unsure about how to address this...it F'n still hurts and the bump is still there after running nolva for 2 weeks.

anyone have any thoughts? I'll be home on Wed...I'm thinking about ordering some caber so that it'll be there when I get home.
 
How high are you dosing your nolva? I think CraigMatthews ran it at 60mg per day for 1-2 weeks. I would also run some P-5-P and vitex if you have it available. Luckily I am not speaking from experience on how to get rid of it. It sux that you had a flair up, but the pics are impressive. Major size and definition increases!!
 
Thanks Silver!

it's a little hard since I'm in China...I don't have a lot of resources available to me. I had to put my nolva in a small container and I didn't bring enough to run it that high...I was planning on 20/20/10/10 and my trip is running longer than I had anticipated. I'm all out of p5p for now too :(
 
Not sure if caber is gonna be worth it by the time you get home.

I might do a high dose nolva for 10 days... like 40mg or so and see what happens.
 
delsolrob said:
Thanks bud! the sad part about the injury is how I got it...I was playing in my local dodgeball league and got hit in the thumb when trying to catch a ball.
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i did the same thing to my pinkie playing volleyball in the sand. quite irritating. for any of you that know the ARMY, imagine the doctor giving you a "no running, no situps, no pushups" profile for 6 months.
 
delsolrob said:
Thanks Silver!

it's a little hard since I'm in China...I don't have a lot of resources available to me. I had to put my nolva in a small container and I didn't bring enough to run it that high...I was planning on 20/20/10/10 and my trip is running longer than I had anticipated. I'm all out of p5p for now too :(
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Since you're still in China, here's an idea that may hold you over until you get back in the States and can get the supplies you really need.
Go to a Wal-Mart or whatever, and purchase some nicotine patches. Place directly onto the nip with gyno.
I remember another member here on AM mentioning this in Dr. D's "How to pulse orals" thread.
Type in "nicotine patches" into your AM search here and it should come up.
 
GMG760 said:
Not sure if caber is gonna be worth it by the time you get home.

I might do a high dose nolva for 10 days... like 40mg or so and see what happens.
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can you elaborate on this G? why do you think the Caber isn't worth it at that point?
 
delsolrob said:
can you elaborate on this G? why do you think the Caber isn't worth it at that point?
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It just has some interesting side effects I wouldn't want to go through, and would lowering your prolactin level destroy the gyno that is already there, or does it just stop current prolactin from creating gyno... I am not sure about the answer, but I didn't think it could reverse existing gyno.
 
yeah, I don't know if the caber will help reduce the gyno now...but Nolva isn't helping right now.
 
Awesome results bro! Sorry to hear about the gyno..it happens. Hope you get it taken care of. :cheers: Hope youre havin fun in China!
 
It's more than likely not prolactin induced gyno...no fluid...no prolactin.

Nolva for 40 mg for 10 days then a taper down is the best route with 200mg b6 twice a day.

Caber isn't going to do anything that isn't prolactin, and the b6 will reduce dopamine levels to reduce any prolactin issues. I would get some Letro to get that lump down after the nolva regimen for 14 days. Best bet. Hope everything works out. Let me know if you need anything else.
 
thanks guys!

just ordered from the candy store yesterday:
Extra bottle of Nolva (60ml@20mg/ml)- won't have enough with my current bottle to run the high dose
Caber - at least to have on hand - might try .5mg EOD for a couple weeks with the nolva.
Letro - lets get this biatch done! I'm not looking forward to how this is going to make me feel though :(

I'm just really surprised, I had a flare up with my SD run back in December and 3-4 days of nolva and I was money...it concerns me that it's been unsuccessful so far.
 
MrBigPR said:
That Letro should take care of you.
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Letro will get the job done. I'm very positive about this.

The nicotine patches I recommended and a bottle of B6 from a Chinese Wal-Mart will hold him until he gets home.
 
Since I've been home (wed night), I've been dosing Nolva at 40mg ED...things have improved so much!

the pain has nearly gone away and the mass under my nip has gotten a lot smaller. at one point it felt like it covered an area about the size of my thumb, now it's about the size of a nickel.

I'm gonna keep this protocol going...if things go well then I won't need the Letro :D
 
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