Auslifter
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Haven't had DMMA in forever lol but I respond very very well to DMBA
AMP Citrate
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Haven't had DMMA in forever lol but I respond very very well to DMBA
horizons
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Auslifter
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Yeah it's dam powerful I took 800mg once. Didn't sleep until 2am in the morning. 600 at max lol keep in mind my tolerance to it was hell bad at the time haha used it with 100mg of caffeine and 2 scoops of high volume to keep blood pressure down
horizons
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Whoa. Now that's a large dose of dmba lol
T-Bone
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chedapalooza I think had an interesting experience with Amp citrate. I forgot what he said happened though.
totalpackage
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I've given a couple of guy's that I help with supplements samples of CONTRABAND by Iron Forge and they
loved the effects of the AMP in this PW and wouldn't mind picking up some bulk AMP powder if it's still out
there for sale and doing a google search I found it at a site called Ceretropic and I wanted to know if anyone
has had any experience with this site if so feedback would be appreciated or if anyone knows if anyone is
selling CONTRABAND at a decent $ wouldn't mind picking up a couple of containers for the guys.
Thank you in advance for any info.
loved the effects of the AMP in this PW and wouldn't mind picking up some bulk AMP powder if it's still out
there for sale and doing a google search I found it at a site called Ceretropic and I wanted to know if anyone
has had any experience with this site if so feedback would be appreciated or if anyone knows if anyone is
selling CONTRABAND at a decent $ wouldn't mind picking up a couple of containers for the guys.
Thank you in advance for any info.
FireRescue
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Is the label on the site accurate. From what I understand the product has been reformulated and the new profile looks slightly different? Are the items shipping the new formulation or the original? FWIW - I think I think I might prefer the original.
Volvo140G
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The new one it appears.... with alcar. A slight adjustment in the amount of amp as well
Comeuppance
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I work out every morning, and rotate between Clen, DMAA, and AMP Citrate. It's a fresh new rush every day, which is nice. Sometimes, though, I'll combine two of them and that's just goddamned incredible. Rotating them like that gives me a solid two days to diminish tolerances.
I buy my AMP Citrate on eBay from an Aussie seller, the DMAA from Ceretropic, and Clen from maximpeptides. Best price:quality ratios I've found so far.
I buy my AMP Citrate on eBay from an Aussie seller, the DMAA from Ceretropic, and Clen from maximpeptides. Best price:quality ratios I've found so far.
FireRescue
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I guess now I am confused on new or old which doen't really matter. Two weeks ago I emailed Chaos and Pain because the supplement facts link on their site didn't work for Inferno. I just assumed the one I got direct from the MFG was the new one and the one on your site was the old label? Regardless, the one wil ALCAR would be the one I would perfer. Thanks.
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Rostam
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Are you taking clean clean as a pre workout rather than cycling? Never heard of that mainly because of long half life and biphasic effect of Clen. What do you feel by taking it as on demand pre workout?
Volvo140G
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The ingredient label was screwy when I tried looking as well...
totalpackage
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Thanks for the heads up but I already have AMPitrophin which is in caps which I like to add occasionally to low
stim PW powders but I was interested in picking up a little pure AMP Citrate powder if it still available out there
from a reliable source and I guess if it's not then I might grab a container or two of E.S.P. which is available out
there now for like $24 before that one disappears completely.
totalpackage
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So you get your DMAA from Ceretropic and that's the site where I've seen the AMP Citrate that I was questioning
about so they are legit with their products? I've also seen that Aussie seller on E-BAY for the AMP but still would
like to know if anyone's tried the AMP from Ceretropic if not I might looking the Aussie seller depending on where
it's being shipped from.
Hockeyaus33
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Ceretropic is definitely legit. I have their DMAA solution
T-Bone
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First I've heard of it too. I hope he doesn't think it's a "supplement"!.
Dma378
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Clen PWO a couple times a week is nice. Low dose is all you need as long as you don't use it everyday so tolerance stays low. Yes, it does have a long half-life, so on days I use it, the energy lasts most of the day. But 20mcg a couple times a week is all you need for a nice boost here and there.
Comeuppance
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Ceretropic is legit, despite their SR-9009 being a bit of a waste of money with its incredibly poor bioavailability. I get my Adrafanil and Bromantane from them, and both are very effective. I haven't tried Ceretropic's AMP Citrate, but their DMAA gives a nice, clean, even drive at about 75mg for me (25mg = 0.5ml, and there are 30ml per bottle). The eBay seller, wilddistributions, ships from Australia but my shipment arrived in less than five business days which blew my mind a little.
I like it quite a bit as a pre-workout. The tremors aren't so fun, but the energy is incredible without being overwhelming. It's not like caffeine where you rage out - I would use an analogy to relate how it seems to work for me: If you imagine your energy level as water in a measuring cup, Clen seems to just raise the level and stay there for quite some time, and then very gradually lower again. Very gradually. The tremors still suck, though, because I like to do photography in the mornings (best light) which is also when I work out, so my hands shake too much to take steady pictures unless I dramatically shorten the exposure time. I just make sure that I don't need to take any pictures on my Clen days.
Oh, it's no supplement. It's a good pre-workout, but kind of a sketchy (as far as side-effects and health concerns) fat burner. That's one of the reasons I relegated it to a once-every-three-days pre-workout instead of being my go-to cutting agent. Besides, dosing it several days apart keeps the stim effect fresh.
It's also worth noting that I take .25ml of Ceretropic's Memantine solution (5mg) as well, which is purported to have anti-stimulant-tolerance effects. I don't know how accurate or strong those effects are, or if I'm taking a dosage that would make a meaningful impact, but I feel it's worth noting if someone else doesn't have quite the same experience.
Also, i went ahead and picked up a two-shot of Albuterol from Maximpeptides last night. I'll add that into the rotation as well, and it looks to have less sides and a shorter half-life while still being similarly stimulatory and mildly anabolic.
Whacked
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Nice. Still legal? You plan to continue to stock/sell for awhile?
squirtguns89
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perhaps the Memantine is actually working for you? havent heard much about it...but rotating compounds seems rather pointless if im not mistaken, i dont think theres such thing as giving a couple days to diminish tolerance while youre taking other stimulants, although its nice in theory.
20 bucks a bottle for dmaa seems ridiculous, although beggars cant be choosers. seems like ive at least seen them reference QC testing on their products which is at least a good sign.
pyrobatt
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We shall see. We still have inferno amped.
pyrobatt
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It's a site issue. When you run into these go ahead and mention me in a post.
We are currently working on this issue specifically. We already fixed inferno. Now for inferno AMPED
FireRescue
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Is the label that I posted above the correct label for the current version of Inferno AMPED? Or is the label on Nutriverse correct? Thanks
Comeuppance
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Different stimulants work in different ways - I don't know why that seems like it wouldn't work to you. I was already rotating between caffeine / AMP Citrate / DMAA before I had memantine. I won't say it's like the first time anymore, but it's definitely a kick each time without upping the dosages. I've actually been scaling back my stimulants gradually just for that reason - I don't need to use as much.
If you know of a more economic and trustable source of DMAA, please, let me know. Ceretropic does seem to charge a notable premium for most of their stuff.
squirtguns89
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because its all hitting the cns one way or the other. what pathways are they stimulating that are different that would allow anything to refresh? although if its working for you, all the better. perhaps the notable difference in feeling each one gives is enough mentally to feel them easier, idk, not trying to discount your experience.
its all a crap shoot seeing as no one mainstream is going to sell it so i cant say in good faith i have anything more trustworthy. the other main one i see people reference i wouldnt buy from. and my current brand isnt being replenished so it seems.
Comeuppance
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I have bulk higenamine from PowderCity, and comparing DMAA to Higenamine is like comparing nitroglycerine to water. Higenamine does almost nothing by itself, but does make PEA more bioavailable if you take the Higenamine first, wait about twenty minutes, and then take the PEA on an empty stomach.
If you meant Hordenine, then, that's a different story... I take about 100mg every other day and that seems to work synergistically with synephrine (which makes sense, because they're both bitter orange extracts) and seems to magnify the stimulant effects. I can't find any studies that verify this, so take my anecdotal experience with a grain of salt. I mean, we have to remember, I'm the guy that takes 8g of beta alanine pre -and- intra, so my tolerances are all over the place.
kboxer7
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No, I meant Higenamine. I saw on powder city they were touting it as the "replacement for DMAA."
I hadn't looked into it too much except a quick glance over at Examine. Seems on paper to possess a lot of the same qualities as DMAA....but based on your feedback doesn't seem to translate well into the real world.
I was especially interested in the possible ability of Higenamine to induce bronchiol dilation.
Ueki T, et al Biphasic tracheal relaxation induced by higenamine and nantenine from Nandina domestica Thunberg . J Pharmacol Sci. (2011)
Comeuppance
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Really, it's affordable enough, just give it a shot. My experience could widely vary from yours - Powdercity has a vested interest in promoting their product, and I feel like I "fell for it." However, reviews are across the spectrum and it may just be something that different people with different diets / body types react differently to.
squirtguns89
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i dont mean to be knit picking here, and im not entirely educated so i could be off base here, but, the issue with PEA is not so much the bioavailability, its that its half life is extremely short iirc, pairing it with higenamine seems odd without further details i may be missing as it also has a short halflife. pairing hig with a longer extended halflife ie clen/caffeine creates an extended release of different stims. you also get beta 2 antagonism for those not using clen or other agonists which is nice. hig is essentially a very poverty ephedrine from what i know, a solid complient stim none the less (from the options we have).
im personally more interested in further feedback regarding theacrine, very few details from those that do take it.
im personally more interested in further feedback regarding theacrine, very few details from those that do take it.
Comeuppance
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Theacrine is neat stuff, but I wouldn't say it's a good replacement for caffeine. I have found, tinkering with the dosage, that it seems to follow a bell curve. It's mildly sedative at lower doses (~50mg), stimulating in a mid-range (75mg-125mg), and seems to be sedative again after that (150mg-225mg is the highest I dosed it)
It's a "clean" energy, much like green tea. I take about 100mg every other day in the morning, and it's a nice little boost.
pyrobatt
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squirtguns89
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yeah i dont see it as a replacement either. most things just dont run smooth without good old caffeine. id be happy if 100mg was a good sweet spot with theacrine, as its not cheap either, and ive seen it referenced used higher. have you noticed increased tolerance with it or has your varying dosages just been out of curiosity?