One thing that I can’t seem to understand is why you’re running tren every cycle. Tren is definitely the best drug at prepping for a show but in the off season or for the type of cycles you’ve used this is drugs that do as good of a job with half the toxicity... I’m not one of the guys here that’s known to always be on the safer side but I just don’t get why you said you’re against something like npp... tren every cycle will put a huge stress on your body fairly quickly (just caring for you broski)
I think that he is trying to kind of make it into a pre contest cycle, id est he wants to recomp his way into contest instead of traditional bulk and cut approach.
I agree that for pure growth his best bet would be a stack of test, nandrolone and perhaps high dose primobolan.
I will also agree that tren perhaps will not put on more muscle than the aforementioned, but all around effects are certainly more dramatic
But also tren is addictive. I only used 100mg a week of ace and cant imagine cycling without it now hahah
i can kinda understand his reasoning not wanting to run cycle without it
But then again, i only cycle once a year so i see no issue in using tren ace for 4-6 weeks.
Also...idk tbh..i dont think, at least considering my experience, that tren is so much more toxic than other stuff, i would personally say his cocktail of orals wreaks much more havoc on his body than his 200-300mg of tren... and i honestly dont like seeing so many orals in there...but he is basically elite level considering forum standards so who am i to judge...
i also dont see how people think of anavar as very mild, have people even looked at lipid panels done while on anavar? They are usually horrible.
Both of my cycles i ran would be considered mild and perhaps "non-toxic", both 500 test and 250 test + 100 tren a. But i felt like the latter put way less stress on my body than the former, especially in the blood pressure and resting heart rate department, while the gains were better than on the 1st cycle which everyone says should be your best.
Tren for sure is more selective towards building muscle than test, it is more anabolic than androgenic for sure, it definitely isnt an androgenic bomb and at a very low dose it fely like an anabolic to me, its just that it is so powerful that negative sides present themselves at a comparatively (to testosterone and other steroids) lower dose.