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I'd think you would look like an absolute beast at anything below 10% BF man.
 
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At what time in PCT do people usually lose most of the gains, if they do lose some.
Idk to be honest I've always kept my ****... Dropped water weight around begining of 2nd week. I'm just gettin there
 
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that being said i HATE cardio....so yeah, I use my diet to burn fat. as well as high rep weight training to get my heart rate up...so that is kinda sorta a form of cardio w/o having to cycle or run or whatever.
Right there with ya, the most cardio I get is f**king my girl =)

10 seconds...high intensity ;)
 
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Idk to be honest I've always kept my ****... Dropped water weight around begining of 2nd week. I'm just gettin there
That's sick! But just in general usually, when would it happen? How long is an average PCT 6 weeks? Or depending on what you cycle?
 
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That's sick! But just in general usually, when would it happen? How long is an average PCT 6 weeks? Or depending on what you cycle?
Depending on cycle... I'm runnin 4... Already feelin recovered but doesn't mean I fully am. Only one week in ;-)
 
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If you keep your calories at maintenance and above you should not lose any muscle gains...provided you supplement 100% correctly and take care of test, HPTA, cortisol, estrogen properly....you should in theory just lose the water bloat. unless you didn't gain anything on cycle :D then you will be back so square one....
 
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That's sick! But just in general usually, when would it happen? How long is an average PCT 6 weeks? Or depending on what you cycle?
Also depends on the person and lenntgh of cycle. Long suppressive cycles sometimes require longer PCTs. 6 week PCTs are definitely around.
 
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there was one time I had no frickin appetite in PCT, that damn clomid depresses me and something killed my appetite....that is bad news to eat like a bird in PCT.
Its great if you want to be skinny ;)
 
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Thanks for awareing me fellas
 
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If you keep your calories at maintenance and above you should not lose any muscle gains...provided you supplement 100% correctly and take care of test, HPTA, cortisol, estrogen properly....you should in theory just lose the water bloat. unless you didn't gain anything on cycle :D then you will be back so square one....
This ^^^
 
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Depending on cycle... I'm runnin 4... Already feelin recovered but doesn't mean I fully am. Only one week in ;-)
Seems legit. What about strength? I assume that goes down once your'e off cycle and done with PCT. But certainly once it's all said and done you will be way stronger than when you started right? Just for perspective what could you bench before cycle, then you hit the 500, what do you think you will still be able to do once PCT is over?
 
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Seems legit. What about strength? I assume that goes down once your off cycle and done with PCT. But certainly once it's all said and done you will be way stronger than when you started right? Just for perspective what could you bench before cycle, then you hit the 500, what do you think you will still be able to do once PCT is over?
445 for 1... I'll get back to my 5 for sure. Probably 475-485
 
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yeah you won't be as strong as you were on cycle, at least until after PCT when you work your way back up. in reality you are not supposed to lift anything heavy in the first few weeks of PCT and should be deloading the weights/not going to failure...but some people continue to train the same in PCT...I guess whatever works for you personally by experience.
 
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445 for 1... I'll get back to my 5 for sure. Probably 475-485
That's so legit. 10 weeks total cycle and PCT right? +25 lbs lean mass and and 30-40 on bench. Serious gains.
 
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yeah you won't be as strong as you were on cycle, at least until after PCT when you work your way back up. in reality you are not supposed to lift anything heavy in the first few weeks of PCT and should be deloading the weights/not going to failure...but some people continue to train the same in PCT...I guess whatever works for you personally by experience.
This is true... I'm doin a diff approach cuz I'm crazy... I'm just dropping my sets low... 15-25 mins tops
 
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I'm dreading pct... And I'm not even that close yet lol
 
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one good thing about being on TRT of any sort, no more PCT. its gonna be hard for me to comprehend that I don't have to do PCT anymore. just doesn't seem right :D but is a benefit since I react poorly to clomid and cry like a whore on it.
 
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one good thing about being on TRT of any sort, no more PCT. its gonna be hard for me to comprehend that I don't have to do PCT anymore. just doesn't seem right :D but is a benefit since I react poorly to clomid and cry like a whore on it.
Lol I heard some hilarious stories from u on that! Tell us one
 
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God I hope I don't get the clomid cry
 
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Lol I heard some hilarious stories from u on that! Tell us one
oh you mean about how I want to kill myself, get all anxious thinking about getting old and dying, and thinking girls are thinking I'm fat, waking up stressing about ex girlfriends I have not thought about in years LOL....all that fun stuff....glad I never have to use that stuff again....just nolva or torem for gyno .....
 
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oh you mean about how I want to kill myself, get all anxious thinking about getting old and dying, and thinking girls are thinking I'm fat, waking up stressing about ex girlfriends I have not thought about in years LOL....all that fun stuff....glad I never have to use that stuff again....just nolva or torem for gyno .....
Hahahah yes
 
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I don't know if any of you guys hunt but I get all pumped and emotional when I shoot one anyway and bow season starts oct 1.here I'm terrified I'm gonna shoot one and get all emotional and cry lol
 
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Sorry just got done doin some hip cardio
 
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Night yall... Time for work
 
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WTF. My last post was telling WARBIRD she wants it and I come back and there are like 5 new pages of **** to read. Damn.
 

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