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That ACVBR2 or whatever its called looks awsome completely amazing compared to anything available yet today. I read some of the real studies, and had my friend explain parts of them to me.There is a similar technique that has been tried in humans its gene therapy, you inject a follistatin vector into a muscle, it then starts producing follistatin locally, inhibiting myostatin, causing significant growth for two years+ my friend looked up all the supplies online at there work, it will cost a few grand and is slightly risky but the effects will last 2 years if the gene therapy approach is done. Any thoughts?
 
DJ, we all know how quick you are to jump into things, but this is NOT something you want to do. Genes and DNA nee to be backed but PURE research. No guessing and chancing.
It is promising but not something worth it at its stage.
 
The amount of protein produced by each cell is important not to do too much because the gene therapy could last for years too much could cause ... death of course if so much protein was produced that their was some toxic buildup for example but they are reproducing something that has been done on humans before so the risk is pretty low. we will know after some experiments in a petri dish.
 
their was some toxic buildup for example but they are reproducing something that has been done on humans before so the risk is pretty low. we will know after some experiments in a petri dish.

so because it was done on humans it makes the risk pretty low? Maybe those people signed a waiver saying if thier life was lost no lawsuits could be applied.
Also, a petri dish doesn have tons of organs, neurotramsmitters, etc etc....

i would say reconsider for at least a year. but if you dont, log it.
 
My friend is going to try it out actually and I wanted to share his trial of it if he can get a hold of it.
 
Im sure they did have to sign such a waiver but there weren't any deaths in the clinical trials so I think it is safe so far.
 
Damn man, i conceed to you one thread that glycocarn might be something worth trying and now i see you on this thread talking about screwing around with your genes. Shouldn't your prohormone log tell you that you shouldn't be using hardcore hormones and similar products yet. Your either seeking attention or your just not learning a damn thing on this website. Either which way it's scary:scared::scared:. If you choose to try crazy things like this good luck!!! Just remember that you spent all this time talking about god and how we shouldn't eat meat but now it's okay to take prohormones and alter your genes. You've basically morphed the bible to your own liking. wow, is all i have to say now.
 
Damn man, i conceed to you one thread that glycocarn might be something worth trying and now i see you on this thread talking about screwing around with your genes. Shouldn't your prohormone log tell you that you shouldn't be using hardcore hormones and similar products yet. Your either seeking attention or your just not learning a damn thing on this website. Either which way it's scary:scared::scared:. If you choose to try crazy things like this good luck!!! Just remember that you spent all this time talking about god and how we shouldn't eat meat but now it's okay to take prohormones and alter your genes. You've basically morphed the bible to your own liking. wow, is all i have to say now.

:lol:
 
Please post a log and pictures if you do this. The research on myo blockers that I have read, showed a decrease in ligament density and thickness. I wouldn't touch that shite personally. For your own well being I would suggest that you refrain from doing something to your body that has barley been researched. :bandit:
 
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Lee Sweeney, who works on therapies to treat muscular dystrophy by targeting IGF1, at the University of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, PA, USA), said, "It has made me more aware of the potential abuses of what we are doing. Certainly, we are not designing this for healthy athletes." Indeed, gene doping carries considerable health risks. "This research was designed for very sick people, people that are dying. It's highly experimental," explained Angela Schneider, President of the International Association for the Philosophy of Sport. "It can have an effect on a healthy body as well, increasing its capacity; however, only [in exchange for] very high risk."

Hidde Haisma, Professor at the Groningen Centre for Pharmacy in the Netherlands and President of the Dutch Society for Gene Therapy, explained, genetic enhancements would not be as tightly regulated as other endogenous processes. "Once you introduce it to the body, in general it is turned on and so far we don't have a good regulatory system to turn it on and off," he said. "The highest risk for the athlete is overdose. And that is the same for EPO, IGF1 or other target genes." Alain Fischer, who works at the Necker Hospital in Paris, France, and who successfully used gene therapy to treat a severe form of immunodeficiency, agrees. "Only people who are dying would have reasonable grounds for using it," he said. "Using gene therapy for [doping] is ethically unacceptable and scientifically stupid."
 
Damn man, i conceed to you one thread that glycocarn might be something worth trying and now i see you on this thread talking about screwing around with your genes. Shouldn't your prohormone log tell you that you shouldn't be using hardcore hormones and similar products yet. Your either seeking attention or your just not learning a damn thing on this website. Either which way it's scary:scared::scared:. If you choose to try crazy things like this good luck!!! Just remember that you spent all this time talking about god and how we shouldn't eat meat but now it's okay to take prohormones and alter your genes. You've basically morphed the bible to your own liking. wow, is all i have to say now.

Not me lol. My friend is. His gf works in a lab at scrips so hes going to test it out. I just wanted to report his findings.
 
Well training and eating lots of healthy food would seem like the logical way to grow muscle.

BUT

You can always just throw some MAGIC chemical into your body and risk your life!!!!!
 
you stated ealier that you wanted to run it with him. is your friend dying? why would he be chosen for clinical trials?
 
If I said that I did not mean to write that. I work out with him and I will get to see his progress too. Same thing. Why did black log a myostatin blocker if not needed.?
 
your still drifting away from what i stated earlier. Why is it bad to eat meat but you're fine with altering hormones and genes. Personally i have no problems with any of these things but your logic is not making sense to me.
 
I heard some guys at my gym talking about using motor oil suppositories. They are huge so it must work. DJ, try it out and log it!
 
I heard some guys at my gym talking about using motor oil suppositories. They are huge so it must work. DJ, try it out and log it!

Have you seen the pic of Ronnie Coleman with bags of dogfood behind him,.. a bunch of ppl in online forums said dogfood made him that big,.. they MUST be right!!!:crackhead:
 
Im sure they did have to sign such a waiver but there weren't any deaths in the clinical trials so I think it is safe so far.

If that's your measure of safety, go ahead. But when you're messing with genes, one of the most worrying aspects is cancer, which as we all know is a slow disease. While I do enjoy theorizing about new products, I don't believe this is ready to be tried yet, given how little we actually know about this.
 
If I said that I did not mean to write that. I work out with him and I will get to see his progress too. Same thing. Why did black log a myostatin blocker if not needed.?

You do not make any sense whatsoever. Your logic, your approach, your way of life is a floating hypocrisy balloon filled with endless incoherent ranting that needs to land on a bull’s horns so it will pop. Oh, the irony that would be!
 
Jesus-tapdancing-Christ.

WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU TRY GENE AND DNA MANIPULATION?! You go from 1-androsterone to GENE DOPING?! You missed a couple powerful, yet tried and true (and when looked at in comparison to gene doping) reletively safe steroids. Like say... Test and Tren? Even HGH?!

How big are you trying to get?!!

What the hell do your Martial Arts students think of you? You really want them to know you are on steroids, let alone this stroke of genius?

Sometimes I think you are just screwing with all of us... nobody could be this dense.
 
Jesus-tapdancing-Christ.

WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU TRY GENE AND DNA MANIPULATION?! You go from 1-androsterone to GENE DOPING?! You missed a couple powerful, yet tried and true (and when looked at in comparison to gene doping) reletively safe steroids. Like say... Test and Tren? Even HGH?!

How big are you trying to get?!!

What the hell do your Martial Arts students think of you? You really want them to know you are on steroids, let alone this stroke of genius?

Sometimes I think you are just screwing with all of us... nobody could be this dense.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I've never spit water out of my mouth with that much force before !


Man DJ, you sure know how to push peoples buttons with the most moronic threads and posts... you surely get some kind of an award buddy !
 
im not reading all that

summary plz
 
im not reading all that

summary plz

all that? its hardly anything....
but if you want...
it could kill you. Well it was showing bad signs toward the immune system due to lack of control over certain cell in the blood vessels but they then explain they found a way to possibly counter act the problems. It is alot of jibba jabba that most of us wont get but its just to mention again its a bad idea.
It starts of with saying out with how the work was citied 50 times since its release for being so groundbreaking then later they go...oops, maybe this isnt so good.

Basicaly, wait DJ, forever. You have plenty of growing to do natty and if youre not goignt obe competitive BBer why even chance it? massive martial arts guys arent very agile and thats what you need to be (in my mind) to be a good martial atrist.
 
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