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911, whats up? Dboyzl's test!

drummaboyzl said:
what kinda throws me is i can DL 275 (and yes with good form) for max...i was under the impression that squat is typically higher than dl?
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A lot of people dead more than they can squat. So it would be pretty normal for you to squat with good form less than 275. And that would be fine too. :)
 
drummaboyzl said:
well that vid on the top of this page looked like the guy was leaning so i wasn't sure.
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Honestly, there will be a slight forward lean of the torso when you lift. I've found it helpful to pull my elbows forward as I grip the bar to help keep my spine as neutral as possible (which isn't the same as your back being straight up and down perpendicular to the floor).
 
Deadlifting more than you squat is the norm. As far as back angle, correct technique by the 'book's states that the angle of your back should be identical to the angle of your tibia. Also remember to keep core tight.
 
reps for posting a vid and getting a critique and advice to make the most of your workouts.

i wish the internet was around when i was 19. i might not have wasted so many yrs doing everything wrong.
 
Hank Vangut said:
reps for posting a vid and getting a critique and advice to make the most of your workouts.

i wish the internet was around when i was 19. i might not have wasted so many yrs doing everything wrong.
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Amen, man. I mean, I had the net when I started lifting, but it would've made such a difference having a place like AM. I spent months deadlifing improperly with no clue that it was wrong.
 
Day: 15

-1st dose: 7:00a.m
Breakfast: 11:00a.m..
Lunch: 2:30p.m.
Dinner: 9:15p.m.
-2nd dose: 9:45p.m.
Gym: 10:00p.m.

Weight: 188 lbs

The Workout:
Back and Shoulders
Deadlift: 2x5 225, 3x1 275
One arm row: 3x5 85
Lat pulldown: 1x7 180, 1x5 230, 2x3 270
Military press: 1x10 100, 1x8 100, 1x6 100
Front raise(db's): 3x10 25
Rear raise: 3x10 50

Other supplements:
none today :cheers:

Thoughtage:
Went in with a vigor to be used today and felt great throughout the workout. I kindof like DL's for some reason but am definately growing tired of lat pulldowns....going to change that out for something next time, maybe T-bar pulls?
Shoulders are obviously a favorite of mine and i love the pump i get on shoulder days.
*Ugh at weight.
 
Day: 16

Breakfast: 11:00a.m..
-1st dose: 1:00p.m
Lunch: 3:00p.m.
Dinner: 6:30p.m.
-2nd dose: 8:30p.m.
Gym: 9:00p.m.

The Workout:
Triceps, Squats, Abs, and Cardio
30 mins basketball
Squats: 1x10 135, 1x5 185, 1x5 225(bad form), 2x5 185, 1x10 135
Skullcrushers: 4x5 70
Dips: 3x10
Leg lifts: 3x10
Decline sit-ups: 2x15
Bridges: 2x60secs
Side dips(obliques): 2x25 60

Other supplements:
just didn't feel like taking anything

Thoughtage:
Ok so I was really trying to master my form/technique for squatting and even got a personal trainer to come over and watch me. I've decided that its kind of an awkward form till you get used to it....my hardest part was keeping off the balls of my feet and staying on my heels. When I went with the 135 weight I could get down to parallel and back up with good form but when I went heavier balance was on the balls of my feet.
The trainer watched and critiqued untill i fully understood how to do it. I do however need to stay light weight till I can keep that good form naturally without straining to focus on it. Thank you guys for helping me realize that.
*I officially hate squatting!

As where the T-911 is concerned I feel like its dehydrating the crap out of me. I am drinking water non stop but am continuously thirsty and my mouth, lips, and face are always dry. My back has gotten quite a bit thicker in these last 2 weeks though so I am glad for that.
 
Pmiller once gave me a good squat tip. Lift up your toes inside your shoe and press them against the roof of your shoe as you squat, this will force you to move your weight back. Also make sure you're slightly pointing your feet outwards.

As for pulldowns, go for pullups!
 
deadlifts one day then squats the next?
id move them apart. you should be using your some to deadlift so putting it up against a squat day is ill advised
 
for a beginning squatter buying shoes is a waste. do it barefoot or buy a pair of chucks and do it in them. No need to waste tons of money for a pair of shoes just to squat in.
I enjoy squatting barefoot.
 
Inarius said:
for a beginning squatter buying shoes is a waste. do it barefoot or buy a pair of chucks and do it in them. No need to waste tons of money for a pair of shoes just to squat in.
I enjoy squatting barefoot.
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I think I am going on 8-9 years now..... and I still go barefoot. I like it even better than with shoes.

Adams
 
Rugger said:
Pmiller once gave me a good squat tip. Lift up your toes inside your shoe and press them against the roof of your shoe as you squat, this will force you to move your weight back. Also make sure you're slightly pointing your feet outwards.

As for pulldowns, go for pullups!
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Agreed, do chins drumma!
 
Inarius said:
deadlifts one day then squats the next?
id move them apart. you should be using your some to deadlift so putting it up against a squat day is ill advised
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just read this one.
DL is more back, squats is more legs....just so happened that my leg and back day were next to each other this week. i'll try to avoid that =D


*ok, going to try it barefoot-
 
Yes DL is more back but how do you think all that weight gets off the ground? You aren't doing stiff legged deads ;)
 
i had read a while ago of guys doing it that way so i chose to do it like that as well. i'll just change my split up a bit.
 
kk. well i'm already working on switched to the 3 major lifts as main days and adding supplemental lifts into those days like

Day 1: Bench + biceps, shoulders, neck
Day 2: Squat + legs, abs
Day 3: Deadlift + back, triceps
off
Repeat


how's that look?
 
looks fine.
if you use more legs you get more outta your deads and can use heavier weights...
 
Lookn good drum and I also recommend dropping the pulldowns for a while and doing some pullups (wide grip, close grip, under hand, over hand, hammer grip)
 
Good to see you getting your squat perfected man, it will only help you get better gains in the future to get your squatting clean.

:)
 
DAdams91982 said:
I dont even agree... DL has more back involved, but if done right, I always feel it in my legs most.

Adams
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I still think he should break those days up a bit man. I also think if your training 6 days a week you will burn yourself out. I was lifting 7 days a week w/ cardio and after about 1-1.5 months of that I had no motivation to w/o for a while because working out became to much of a chore and it wasn't something that I enjoyed doing at all anymore. This is just my .02 though, maybe drumma won't get tired of it.
 
I've used the Chuck Taylors for years; their cheap, they work and they last forever. Being totally flat-soled, they make it easy to distribute weight across your foot properly. In the case of squats, this means keeping the weight on your heels.
 
Day: 19

-1st dose: 7:00a.m
Breakfast: 8:30a.m.
Lunch: 5:00p.m.
-2nd dose: 6:45p.m.
Gym: 8:30p.m.

The Workout:
Legs
5 minute jog @ 9mph
Squat: 3x10 185, 1x5 225
Hack squat: 1x10 270, 1x10 360, 1x10 450, 1x8 540
Leg press: 1x10 450, 1x8 540, 1x6 630, 1x5 720
Calf raise: 3x10 225

Other supplements:
this actually works well on its own =D

Thoughtage:
Nothing too special....took the weekend off and started the week with legs and felt great. I do like not having to take the T-911 at a certain time though.
 
Day: 20

-1st dose: 1:00p.m
Lunch: 2:00p.m.
Gym: 4:30p.m.
-2nd dose: 5:15p.m.
Dinner: 7:00p.m.


The Workout:
Chest
DB flat bench: 2x7 70, 2x7 75
BB incline: 2x7 135, 2x5 145
Flys: 3x10 30
Close-grip flat: 2x8 100
Suspended push ups: 3x10

Other supplements:
HypertropX 20 mins pre WO

Thoughtage:
Decided to keep it simple. Weight isn't fluctuating any....wondering if i'll drop back down when i'm done with this. Little over a week left.
 
Day: 21

-1st dose: 7:00a.m
Lunch: 3:00p.m.
Dinner: 5:30p.m.
-2nd dose: 7:15p.m.
Gym: 8:00p.m.

The Workout:
Back and arms
Deadlifts: 2x5 225, 2x3 275
Lat pulldown: 3x5 270
Pullups wide: 4x5
DB curls: 1x4 45, 1x5 40, 2x5 35
Incline skullcrushers: 3x5 80
Tri extensions: 1x10 70, 1x7 80, 1x5 90

Other supplements:
none again

Thoughtage:
Strength and endurance are getting better. After the 2nd week I started noticing the affects in the gym more....1st 2 weeks was more attitude and hormonal adjustments for me.
 
Day: 22

-1st dose: 2:00p.m
Lunch: 3:00p.m.
*****Skydiving 3:30p.m.
Dinner: 6:30p.m.
-2nd dose: 7:15p.m.
Gym: 8:30p.m.

The Workout:
Shoulders and neck
Military press: 1x10 100, 3x8 110
Rear raises: 1x8 60, 1x8 70, 2x7 75
Side raises: 1x6 30, 3x10 25
Upright rows: 1x5 135, 3x10 95
Shrugs: 2x8 315
Sitting shrugs: 2x8 230

Other supplements:
lalala

Thoughtage:
Shoulders is my favorite thing to work and well, my endurance is getting better. At my gym we only have preset weight BB's up to 110 and i was too lazy to set up a BB so i kept at 110....will def try for more next time.
 
Can't wait to see your progress over the next 6 months now that you've figured out squatting. Should be a good showing.
 
-1st dose: 8:00a.m
Lunch: 12:00p.m.
-2nd dose: 2:15p.m.
Dinner: 6:30p.m.
Gym: 7:15p.m.

The Workout:
Legs and cardio
2 minutes @ 8mph, 2 minutes @ 10mph, 1 minute at 7mph
Leg press: 1x7 540, 1x7 630, 2x3 720
Squat: ATG 2x8 135, 2x5 185
Hack squat: 3x7 540
Hip adductions: 3x10 225
Calf raise: 1x10 135, 1x10 180, 1x10 230

Other supplements:
protein shake post WO

Thoughtage:
I like the feeling afterwards when i've finished the hip adductions. Happy with my squatting today....went lower than normal (will only goto parallel next time). My endurance in running has decreased but I expected that since i haven't been doing it as much.
*Tomorow will be off day.
 
Rugger said:
Can't wait to see your progress over the next 6 months now that you've figured out squatting. Should be a good showing.
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x2. Will do wonders on your body comp
 
well after i finish the T-911 i'm going on a strict cut. my back has grown quite a bit and i have extended my lat spread enough to where i would be satisfied if i could lose my love handles.
i'll cut as long as it takes to lose them even if that means the entire winter. once i lose them i will begin to bulk again just making sure i keep it extremely clean and continue my cardio.
 
i've decided that i would rather look fit than be strong....
once i have the body that i want i'll try to put muscle on but keep myself lean. i'm just not full content with myself right now. and i can do the powerlifting in a couple years.
 
exact same thing i just decided lol
 
:rasp:
 
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