3-AD Replacement

lDaChOsEnOnEl

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Im lookin for a product/ Stack that matches up closely with 3-ad becuase I cant wait any longer for it to come out. I want a strong stack for strenght but I dont want to have to use any SERM's....Any Ideas?
 
11-OXO by ErgoPharm is the same thing.
ALRI's Jungle Warfare and AX's Hyperdrol x 2 both seem pretty solid too.
 
lDaChOsEnOnEl said:
Im lookin for a product/ Stack that matches up closely with 3-ad becuase I cant wait any longer for it to come out. I want a strong stack for strenght but I dont want to have to use any SERM's....Any Ideas?
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It's already been released, no need to wait
 
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So what do you think about like a stack of

11-oxo(On Cycle)
Hyperdrol X-2(on cycle)

Advance PCT(Post Cycle)
Mass Fx(Post Cycle)??
Anything else I should add? Or any suggestions?
 
lDaChOsEnOnEl said:
So what do you think about like a stack of

11-oxo(On Cycle)
Hyperdrol X-2(on cycle)

Advance post cycle therapy(Post Cycle)
Mass Fx(Post Cycle)??
Anything else I should add? Or any suggestions?
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well i would change it like this

11-oxo(On cycle)
MassFX (oncycle)

Retain 2(Post Cycle)
MassFX(Post Cycle)
Advanced post cycle therapy(Post Cycle)
you could also add RPM
 
Eh, I would just do the 11-OXO for the cycle and then follow it up with the others that you have posted for pct.
 
I think you could get more bang for your buck that way (and if you have never used these products you will be able to tell which is doing what for you too).
 
I agree with stxnas on this, especially if your going to be dosing the 11oxo to cause an anabolic effect. Having the FX in at that point in time would be irrelevant with the suppression issue that may come about. Much better to save for post to help get things right back in order.
 
Okay so how does this look?

11-oxo(Alone)

Hyperdrol x2(post cycle therapy)
Mass Fx(PCT)
AdvancePCT(PCT)

Also what supplemnts you guys recomend I take while on the 11-oxo??
What should should I does the 11-oxo at?
 
TheXc

read the rules and delete that link, thats not the 3-ad we are talking about

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Is giant nutrition owned by Ergopharm? That product kind of looks like a slap in the face of AX, considering it's called 3-AD.
 
max silver said:
Is giant nutrition owned by Ergopharm? That product kind of looks like a slap in the face of AX, considering it's called 3-AD.
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PA did that intentionally because he feels AX ripped off the name of his trademarked 1-AD product, a little childish revenge, funny, but childish.
 
whitedevil74 said:
PA did that intentionally because he feels AX ripped off the name of his trademarked 1-AD product, a little childish revenge, funny, but childish.
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this had nothing to do with revenge. it was done purely with trademark issues in mind and was on the advice of counsel. it was a business decision\

we (not AX) have the 3-ad application for trademark filed with the uspto may 2007 and it was intended to be used for this particular product (which we had sitting around for a while looking for a home)
 
bkprice said:
With all the drama between you and AX, theres no way it was just a business call.
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i will be honest with you. we discussed it from the business end a while back and it was a good idea but i also got a kick out of it

but then a few weeks ago i felt uncomfortable about it because i knew some people would think it was a cheap shot taking things too far, and it would backfire

but my business partner was adamant that we do it, and he makes NO decisions based on emotions. we simply needed to get a 3-ad on the market to shore up our trademark registration we made last may or it would have all been for naught
 
bkprice said:
With all the drama between you and AX, theres no way it was just a business call.
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i am sick of this drama BS

life is drama and business is drama

if you don't like drama then i suggest you don't leave your house, don't do anything
 
Never said drama was not part of life, just that one should not deny they take pleasure in it.

Also, business is business, so I understand where you are coming from. Now, where is the IGF-1 product???
 
bkprice said:
Never said drama was not part of life, just that one should not deny they take pleasure in it.

Also, business is business, so I understand where you are coming from. Now, where is the IGF-1 product???
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if i could find one or two decent lab techs to work in my lab i would have time to work on new stuff like that
 
That may be part of it, Jay. Most of the chemical industry is situated in the south. That's where the jobs typically are.

Not say Pat couldn't find quality people in Champaign. (I wouldn't live there though.)
 
lDaChOsEnOnEl said:
I plan on using it for the anabolic effect. How should I dose it?
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i'm surprised PA hasn't answered your question! but from what i have read about it, to get the anabolic effect from it, it should be dosed at 600mg ED or higher. maybe start at 450mg ed to see how you react to it for a couple days and then bump it up from there.
 
sdmf45 said:
i'm surprised PA hasn't answered your question! but from what i have read about it, to get the anabolic effect from it, it should be dosed at 600mg ED or higher. maybe start at 450mg ed to see how you react to it for a couple days and then bump it up from there.
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i sell it as a cortisol blocker not as an anabolic. that is why i am not answering his question. as soon as i start answering direct questions about how to take it as an anabolic then it means i am promoting it as an anabolic
 
It looks like when all is/was said and done, it was a good idea NOT to refer to it as anything in regards to Anabolic.

At any cost.. Have there been any blood tests done yet? I'm really curious about things like the effect on cholesterol...
 
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