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Patrick Arnold, calling you OUT..

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And yet, no word from the man himself?

I'm beginning to think that PA isn't a real person - kinda like Osama Bin Laden. He's rumored to be real, even shows up in some "photos" every once in a while, and has some video footage that appears annually. Other than that, could his posts on multiple boards not be done by a crack team of creative writing specialists with sports nutritionist sitting right behind them to check facts?

If this thread goes to more than 8 pages without PA actually posting in it, I'm going to file him under the "Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and Elvis" file...
 
timdull2 said:
And yet, no word from the man himself?

I'm beginning to think that PA isn't a real person - kinda like Osama Bin Laden. He's rumored to be real, even shows up in some "photos" every once in a while, and has some video footage that appears annually. Other than that, could his posts on multiple boards not be done by a crack team of creative writing specialists with sports nutritionist sitting right behind them to check facts?

If this thread goes to more than 8 pages without PA actually posting in it, I'm going to file him under the "Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and Elvis" file...
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I'm willing to venture that no one has actually PM Patrick himself about this.
 
timdull2; said:
And yet, no word from the man himself? ....

If this thread goes to more than 8 pages without PA actually posting in it, ...
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That's another four pages. And probably a lot of time. Chances are he would turn up sooner...
 
timdull2 said:
Other than that, could his posts on multiple boards not be done by a crack team of creative writing specialists with sports nutritionist sitting right behind them to check facts?
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I think it would be hard to put together such a team with the right level of crankiness ;)
 
timdull2 said:
And yet, no word from the man himself?

I'm beginning to think that PA isn't a real person - kinda like Osama Bin Laden. He's rumored to be real, even shows up in some "photos" every once in a while, and has some video footage that appears annually. Other than that, could his posts on multiple boards not be done by a crack team of creative writing specialists with sports nutritionist sitting right behind them to check facts?

If this thread goes to more than 8 pages without PA actually posting in it, I'm going to file him under the "Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and Elvis" file...
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Nah he is real, but his main objective on AM is to bash his rivals :hammer:
 
EasyEJL said:
Yeah, he can run a sub kilogram batch of something he wants himself potentially, freeze it sealed with nitrogen so it keeps indefinitely. pretty cool really
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Funny but I did this last week, you know how it is, all that Nitrogen laying around not being put to good use Invalid Link Removed

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
thesinner said:
I don't think it's odd. This is like walking into a trap. Anything and everything he would possibly say will be questioned.
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How the h3ll is the Official AM Goat Focker also the Official AM Voice of Reason :icon_lol:



However, starting a thread bashing beloved forum sponsors isn't walking into a trap? :hammer:
 
xjsynx said:
How the h3ll is the Official AM Goat Focker also the Official AM Voice of Reason :icon_lol:



However, starting a thread bashing beloved forum sponsors isn't walking into a trap? :hammer:
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It's creating a trap, not walking into it. It creates thoughts of doubt and suspicion in the Board Sponsor's product. It gets the ergopharm name out. It 'smokes out' information about competator products without having to buy, test, and replicate.
 
xjsynx said:
:think:

From what I could comprehend from this post sounds a bit contradicting, especially from a rep. I mean why be a rep if this was your view?

Why write product write-ups?
Why have reviews and logs?

The last time I checked this is a public, interactive forum that is not ran by the Taliban.

I am not the originator of this thread; however, I was able to understand the objective of this thread, that the majority PA's posts; he scrutinizes other companies products. Therefore, people want to know what PA feels are some products he feels worthy. Not just so they can run out and buy what he says is good in his opinion, but just to hear something positive coming out of his mouth for once.
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well u are interpreting the thread diff then I am

i see this thread as " hey pat ur a genious, what products do u like" meaning if u like them they must be good and ill only get what u say
so if pat wants to have fun he will say fizogen is great to see how many run out to buy fizogen :dl:

but ill say ur post made me chuckle
 
Outside Backer said:
well u are interpreting the thread diff then I am

i see this thread as " hey pat ur a genious, what products do u like" meaning if u like them they must be good and ill only get what u say
so if pat wants to have fun he will say fizogen is great to see how many run out to buy fizogen :dl:

but ill say ur post made me chuckle
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The thing you know with Pat though is if he is gonna make us all do a double take on Fizogen, he will have science and studies to back it up. (That would be an A-HOLE move too, to make us actually consider Fizogen, lol.)
 
Outside Backer said:
well u are interpreting the thread diff then I am

i see this thread as " hey pat ur a genious, what products do u like" meaning if u like them they must be good and ill only get what u say
so if pat wants to have fun he will say fizogen is great to see how many run out to buy fizogen :dl:

but ill say ur post made me chuckle
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I see it the same way. Still I check back when new posts are made in this thread ;)
 
ALERT

I just heard from my buddy Pat and he said SuperDrol NG is the hot item, run out and get that NOW :eek: Next week its in stores near you.


































*disclaimer- This could be any pat :D
 
FitnFirm said:
ALERT

I just heard from my buddy Pat and he said SuperDrol NG is the hot item, run out and get that NOW :eek: Next week its in stores near you.
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If PA said that, I'll send you "noodz."
Of PA.
Don't ask how I got them. (But you'd be surprised what a pack of Newports will buy you in the joint.)
 
Just so you know, I have created a product that is zooper anabolixzorz, controls cortisol, cleans the house and swallows with a smile.....but um I can't tell you anything more about this....sorry but just know it's awesome and I have it.

Kthx

/thread
 
neoborn; said:
Just so you know, I have created a product that is zooper anabolixzorz, controls cortisol, cleans the house and swallows with a smile.....but um I can't tell you anything more about this....sorry but just know it's awesome and I have it.

Kthx

/thread
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Sounds like a pricey product!
 
Sorry can't tell you more. shhhhhhh :ntome:

it's awesome though.....it's sooooooooooooooo great!

Much Love,

Neoborn:toofunny:
 
neoborn; said:
Sorry can't tell you more. shhhhhhh :ntome:

it's awesome though.....it's sooooooooooooooo great!

Much Love,

Neoborn:toofunny:
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I thought as much!
 
"other desingers that i think are worth the risk is DMT/pheraplex, halodrol, oxyguno, and havoc and its clones" Patrick Arnold, 8/21/07
[Posted in another thread here on AM, where he condemns Superdrol as being too liver-toxic, causing headaches, bloody noses, and lethargy.]
 
jasonschaffin said:
The thing you know with Pat though is if he is gonna make us all do a double take on Fizogen, he will have science and studies to back it up. (That would be an A-HOLE move too, to make us actually consider Fizogen, lol.)
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But he wouldnt say something like that. His reputation is real, unlike our crown system here :) and although this forum may be unimportant in the global scheme, he wouldn't commit in "writing" anything like that, as it could cause real ripples. Using the JW ADED question as a specific, he never argued against its JW's value as an anabolic supplement, just about the fact that the ingredient list had questions in it (as it did change from beta to production) and that some people were suggesting it for PCT use since its a "natural testosterone booster" when it likely had some suppressive possibility.


I think he takes what he says pretty seriously as he knows its public record. Well, at least he does after he's had breakfast, damn sometimes his early morning posts are harsh ;)
 
animalkrack3r; said:
sooo... I don't think he's going to respond??....
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timdull2 wrote earlier:

"If this thread goes to more than 8 pages without PA actually posting in it, I'm going to file him under the "Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and Elvis" file...",

So we still have three pages to go!
 
imprezivr6 said:
We know you are not a FAN of allot of these supps, and the way they are marketed, but you also talk about some good supps that get no recognition.. What are some supps right now you feel have merit, and are a great products?

I must say i enjoy reading your posts. LOL

D-
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i have said that jungle warfare seems like a good methylated prohormone if that is something you are into

i love ON casein protein, vanilla. i drink it twice a day usually and its my favorite protein.

i have heard good things about the epic product 5-tetra

the science behind x-factor is interesting, although the prospect of increased joint soreness is something that stops me from trying it

i dunno, there are alot of great products by great companies out there. not alot of fantastically innovative things specifically but alot of well thought out and quality formulas. by companies like scivation, beverly international, MAN, avant labs, RPN, etc
 
Big BAMA said:
Hey Mr Arnold, On HBO you said you were working on some new things. Any word on when the goodies will be available? Or what they are?
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started working on this IGF-1 booster and have made progress on it. perhaps by the end of the year or early next year you will see it on the market
 
imprezivr6 said:
Good, that is what i want to hear.. His list.. I actually find his postings interesting.. No disrespect intended in this post, but would like to hear what products out there he thinks are diamonds in the rough, or just don't get the credit they deserve.
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i am watching what is going on with the agmatine stuff from MAN. that stuff was talked about years ago in a magazine called PUMP but then never came out. Now they released it and its controversial. there are potential positives and potential negatives.

if feedback is good then i may consider it as an ingredient in a formula for an ergo product. No disrespect to MAN would be intended because i don't perceive this as an invention of theirs since its potential as supplement was known by many for years. And if it pans out they will get props. similarly if it sucks they will be booed
 
Patrick Arnold said:
i am watching what is going on with the agmatine stuff from MAN. that stuff was talked about years ago in a magazine called PUMP but then never came out. Now they released it and its controversial. there are potential positives and potential negatives.

if feedback is good then i may consider it as an ingredient in a formula for an ergo product. No disrespect to MAN would be intended because i don't perceive this as an invention of theirs since its potential as supplement was known by many for years. And if it pans out they will get props. similarly if it sucks they will be booed
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What type of potential negatives are we talking about? Just curious, as I've been trying to find feedback on Agmatine, but none of it seems conclusive.
 
xjsynx said:
"Fat people should not consume carbs post-workout. The best Post workout drink for a 200lb overweight man is: Whey Isolate 60g + Glutamine 20-80g + Glycine 20g. This will replenish glycogen while preventing fat gain."

(taken from a Poliquin fat loss seminar)

And I took it from another forum....
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poliquin stole the idea for glycine from my friend Ian Danney, another trainer of elite athletes in phoenix area

glycine should not be taken with protein or glutamine either. it should be taken by itself or with some simple carbs immediately after training. it needs to be absorbed fast so you don't need anything competing with it for absorption or impeding its travel through the gut
 
I must say Patrick, these responses from you are the best ( honestly no sarcasm ) that I have read from you. No ego, no bs just straight up PA.

+Rep

:thumbsup:

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
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Originally Posted by timdull2;
And yet, no word from the man himself? ....

If this thread goes to more than 8 pages without PA actually posting in it, ...
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strategicmove; said:
That's another four pages. And probably a lot of time. Chances are he would turn up sooner...
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I said he would chime in before page 8.
 
matthew76 said:
I As far as PA goes, I have never sat down and talked to him, so I can not, and will not subject his reputation JUST because someone other than myself does not "agree" with how he does business. I will admit, though, the way he comes across is a bit arrogant - but he's talking through a computer and the interpretation is in the eye of the person who's reading it - so if you want it to sound snide and crude, then it will. !
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i hear you. i don't like re-reading my posts alot because i sound like a **** much of the time.

i am told my real life personality is in stark contrast to my cyberpersonality. but 99% of people would never know that unfortunately

i will point out that some of the people i dislike for being liars and exaggeraters are also some of the smoothest most cajoling fellas in their posts. but the con artist knows how to treat people - that is part of his game.

chemists OTOH are honest people with bad personal skills. it sucks
 
jasonschaffin said:
various pro-steroid products some time (if i were making my own 17a-methyl-11-oxotest in my lab i would not tell you nor share it)

Somebody make and sell this....
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i never took that cuz the reaction product did not precipitate out cuz it was not pure enough and i said f' it. i may try to make it and take it in the near future though
 
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