any chance for bulk 1,4ad powder

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TripDog said:
thats sweet.........i would love to run some of that with my next test cycle..............that bold garbage would break my bank acount at their price to effective dose ratio..........are we all thinking transderm.....could it be pinned??.....oral would not be a smart option im thinking.........nutra or sister site?
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If you just go back a few pages all your questions are answered.
 
EasyEJL said:
nutra, I think pinning is probably questionable as it would be packed like normal loose powder (so not particularly guaranteed sterile). So transdermal or oral, sounds like pricing will be low enough that oral is viable.
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Powders do not come sterile. You would need to filter it. Also, there is no ester attached (like a cyp/enanth ester) so you'd be pinning at least every day, possibly several times per day for best results. Really not practical. Oral is the best route for this compound, as its oral bioavailability is likely higher than transdermal.

BTW, if I don't get any of this stuff I'm gonna be pissed.
 
quigs, i think you get first dibs man! then us goldies. I might be working "under the table" for dsade and NP so Ill probably get a good deal :D
 
I did say wild guess :) Thats still 1/3 the price of the on clearance 1 4ad bold, so pretty sweet, makes a 600mg a day cycle under $30.
 
EasyEJL said:
I did say wild guess :) Thats still 1/3 the price of the on clearance 1 4ad bold, so pretty sweet, makes a 600mg a day cycle under $30.
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Wow...didn't realize our price was so good. Thanks for the info, we will probably raise it to $3 a gram.
 
EasyEJL said:
I did say wild guess :) Thats still 1/3 the price of the on clearance 1 4ad bold, so pretty sweet, makes a 600mg a day cycle under $30.
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i thought it was mentined an effective dosing range would be between 800-100mg??? why would you run it the low route???
 
Moody Hammer said:
Don't forget the cost of the Deluxe Capping Kit for some of us!
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Good point...maybe a stack deal? Buy the deluxe capping kit and get a gram for only $2.
 
poopypants said:
i thought it was mentined an effective dosing range would be between 800-100mg??? why would you run it the low route???
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I'm likely to stack it with something else rather than run it solo, was what I was thinking, maybe even run this as a ED with pulsing something else on top.

On the adrenosterone, that was just as much poking fun as the pricing.
 
mmmmkay :thumbsup:

now for guys like me that will undoubtedly miss out on this offer (broke) but want to pick some up in the near future as well, will there be a second and maybe even continuous run of this in bulk? I can bet regardless of how many times you order it it will be in demand...
 
Production is humming along nicely. SHould have shipping estimate by tomorrow or friday.
 
dsade said:
Production is humming along nicely. SHould have shipping estimate by tomorrow or friday.
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Excellent news, are you guys going to start taking orders, or pre-orders soon after, and would it not be a good idea to take "advance" orders on the next shipment 'assuming' this one will sell out quick, this way if a person should miss out on the first batch of powder, they are at least on an official list for the next possible shipment and guaranteed to get in on the next shipment if it happens.
 
How about $1.25 + .24c fee for Dsade's "help me maintain my hairy beast of a chest and shine my medallion, yeah baby, fund"?

Sounds good to me you sexy hairy b!tch! :thumbsup:

I just need to you put on some Saturday Night Fever white zoot suit with you dagger collars and I'm ready to roll you bit chunk o hunk! :toofunny:

Much Love,

Neoborn

/sausagefest
 
definately wanna cap this stuff. i got a bunch from anothr bulk store a few years ago and it was FOUL. and the solubility was horrible, if i tried to mix w/ a protien shake, it would just clump together into little balls of foulness and stick to the side of the glass.

any guess as to how much trisobagen would improve the bioavailability? could make for a great combo.

i may try to make an (oral ) solution. i've had great results in the past with dosing these types of no ester solutions as little as every other day, especially from a strength standpoint. probably not as good for size, but thats not my main goal. any idea how high a mg/ml would go into solution? anyone?
 
bigbad71 said:
definately wanna cap this stuff. i got a bunch from anothr bulk store a few years ago and it was FOUL. and the solubility was horrible, if i tried to mix w/ a protien shake, it would just clump together into little balls of foulness and stick to the side of the glass.
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Do you remember about how many mg per 1/4 teaspoon?

It will probably need size 0 caps right?
 
ballhere said:
Do you remember about how many mg per 1/4 teaspoon?

It will probably need size 0 caps right?
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How much do you want per cap?

Estimate 300mg per cap, I would say 0 would work, but 00 is very easy to work with.

Grab some bulk Microcrystalline Cellulose and weigh it all out (definitely helps make capping easier.)
 
bigbad71 said:
any idea how high a mg/ml would go into solution? anyone?
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It is not very soluble. I imagine you would be hard pressed to get 20-30mg into solution. If you are talking about dosing 800-1200mg a day that is a lot (~50ml) of solution.

A suspension is different of course. I imagine you could suspend as much as you like, withing reason, so as you don't make a paste.

Putting it in a shake is not advisable as it is not water soluble and you would be wasting a lot of it in the shaker bottle.
 
B5150 said:
It is not very soluble. I imagine you would be hard pressed to get 20-30mg into solution. If you are talking about dosing 800-1200mg a day that is a lot (~50ml) of solution.

A suspension is different of course. I imagine you could suspend as much as you like, withing reason, so as you don't make a paste.

Putting it in a shake is not advisable as it is not water soluble and you would be wasting a lot of it in the shaker bottle.
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sorry if this is obvious to others but i just wanted clarification for myself.....

with a suspension youd be using oil?

and a solution???

also given your "00" and "1" capping would that make an "0" packed prob 300mg? (all i have are "0" and "1" caps n tray/tamper)
 
poopypants said:
sorry if this is obvious to others but i just wanted clarification for myself.....

with a suspension youd be using oil?

and a solution???
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You can suspend in anything...really (oil, PEG, glycol, etc), except hydrophilics[sp] (water).

As far as solution goes, you could try oil or the solvents mentioned. I can't be sure what the saturation point is before it falls back out of solution. I would not try to get it into solution, but rather suspend it at 50mg/ml.

I have suspended DHEA in EVOO at 50mg/ml and it was pretty milky and clumpy and settled and needed to be shaken hard before dosing.

also given your "00" and "1" capping would that make an "0" packed prob 300mg? (all i have are "0" and "1" caps n tray/tamper)
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I know if you really pack it 200mg will fit into the '1'. I imagine if you went light or no tamper you could get avg~300mg per cap in the '0'
 
B5150 said:
You can suspend in anything...really (oil, PEG, glycol, etc), except hydrophilics[sp] (water).

As far as solution goes, you could try oil or the solvents mentioned. I can't be sure what the saturation point is before it falls back out of solution. I would not try to get it into solution, but rather suspend it at 50mg/ml.

I have suspended DHEA in EVOO at 50mg/ml and it was pretty milky and clumpy and settled and needed to be shaken hard before dosing.

I know if you really pack it 200mg will fit into the '1'. I imagine if you went light or no tamper you could get avg~300mg per cap
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:thumbsup::thumbsup: cool, thanks B
 
B5150 said:
It is not very soluble. I imagine you would be hard pressed to get 20-30mg into solution. If you are talking about dosing 800-1200mg a day that is a lot (~50ml) of solution.

A suspension is different of course. I imagine you could suspend as much as you like, withing reason, so as you don't make a paste.

Putting it in a shake is not advisable as it is not water soluble and you would be wasting a lot of it in the shaker bottle.
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thanks.

yes, wouldn't mix w/ a protien shake at all. just ended up w/ sticky clumps of 1,4 ad stuck to the glass, and would have to scrape that foul tasting mush off and swallow it.

anyone know if 1,4 ad has any intrinsic anabolic properties before conversion, like 4 ad?
 
bigbad71 said:
thanks.

yes, wouldn't mix w/ a protien shake at all. just ended up w/ sticky clumps of 1,4 ad stuck to the glass, and would have to scrape that foul tasting mush off and swallow it.

anyone know if 1,4 ad has any intrinsic anabolic properties before conversion, like 4 ad?
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yes ut was said by Dr D that it is active itself but all i ever see people quote is the 15% conversion rate to bold... when in reality they get much more of an active compound then that, its just not all pure bold... ill look for that thread real quick...
 
here we go....

DR.D said:
Guys, dbol can not be 17-demethylated and there is no known mechanism or enzyme that can reduce that tertiary alcohol either (in vivo) so dbol's D ring is excreted unchanged, with many A ring metabolites. M14 is active on it's own even before 3-oxidation to the ketone (~15-16% as stated) and I think you can roughly equate 30-40mg of dbol to 60mg of M14, in effect. Qualitatively it's a bit dirtier though for sure. I can not exceed 60mg without getting a bit aggressive. If that helps?
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i just realized this was in regards to M14ADD-Dbol..... so im actually not so sure that it is the same and active itself before conversion
 
poopypants said:
here we go....



i just realized this was in regards to M14ADD-Dbol..... so im actually not so sure that it is the same and active itself before conversion
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good try though pooper..:thumbsup:
 
How much roughly will be available for sale? Is there any way to presale this for non gold members? I would love to buy a few hundred grams and bulk cap them than buy bottles and bottles of bold 200. Thanks in advance.
 
I need a capmquick anyhow really, i'm tired of bulk powder swilling. well other than beta alanine and taurine, I like mixing those in juice
 
We were contacted by one of the members here who made us an offer on the whole shipment. Next shipment will take 4-6 weeks.



oh wait...just kidding.
 
dsade said:
We were contacted by one of the members here who made us an offer on the whole shipment. Next shipment will take 4-6 weeks.



oh wait...just kidding.
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i'll admit you got me on that one.........har,har,har
 
Was there a decision if greater than 100 grams are purchased? And will there be multiple times to buy this or one time shot as in once gone, its gone? I did not see these questions fully answered yet so I was hoping for updates
 
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