which gives you the best euphoric feeling?

well it's obviously phenibut but once tolerance comes around.. bleh

my first dose of it was like HEAVEN (psychotropin from ergopharm) 8 caps.. but... never again was it the same :(
 
I don't think GABA is what you are looking for. If anything it calms you. And it is a really good sleep aid.

And it raises natural HGH (at higher dosages)!
 
careful with phenibut.....i took a gram and a half the other day...felt great..............THE NEXT DAY I WANTED TO DIE>>>>WAY WORSE THAN ALCOHOL HANGOVER!!!!
 
SwordBurn said:
I don't think GABA is what you are looking for. If anything it calms you. And it is a really good sleep aid.

And it raises natural HGH (at higher dosages)!
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i get a sweet buzz off gaba...more so than phenibut
 
vicaversa6922 said:
what about pea its the top selling thing on nutraplanet
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i bought some and wasn't impressed at all....it made me jittery in a not fun way...............
 
SwordBurn said:
What dose? I was doing 2g before bed...
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i take about 3-4 grams around bed time.....i always get the gaba rush (shortness of breath etc...once that clears i feel like a million bucks)
 
my experience: PEA didn't do too much for me. i have unique nutrition's brand. it was decent with caffeine, but really very little effect was noticable.

gaba: flushing and warm feelings (usual reaction for most) and decent help for a sleep aid. nothing major.

pheni: works amazing at 2g for me. i don't get a pheni hangover like some do, so you need to start low and access tolerance if you plan on taking it. i took it all the time last year before my labs because they were 3+ hours and usually extremely meticlious. it's also great with a small dose + alcohol. you feel more drunk with less to drink, but without loss of coordination or motor skills. it's great. NP has it pretty cheap i believe. also, i wouldn't take it more then 2-3 times a week as the effects can diminish with too much use.
 
2 Controlled Labs Red Acid GEN2 and 2 VPX Redline caps first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. Drink water, but don't eat for 40 minutes or so.

I've never felt so damn good spirited in my life!
 
really damn i have to choke it down the best thing i've found to help kill the taste so far is hawaiian punch berry blue typhoon lol
 
Phenibut is amazing. 1 gram before I go to work and I am set for the rest of the day. It makes me extroverted which helps me at work because I have to talk on the phone all day. The difference is like night and day and makes me think I either need to get a new job or should be professionally medicated.
 
TripDog said:
careful with phenibut.....i took a gram and a half the other day...felt great..............THE NEXT DAY I WANTED TO DIE>>>>WAY WORSE THAN ALCOHOL HANGOVER!!!!
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same here


PEA is nice but doenst last long
 
Lacradocious said:
Phenibut is amazing. 1 gram before I go to work and I am set for the rest of the day. It makes me extroverted which helps me at work because I have to talk on the phone all day. The difference is like night and day and makes me think I either need to get a new job or should be professionally medicated.
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i take some most every morning too. takes the morning irritability away
 
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i think i need this, everytime i wake up i feeling like killing someone or myself!!!
its on my list for the next NP order now for sure
 
Lacradocious said:
Phenibut is amazing. 1 gram before I go to work and I am set for the rest of the day. It makes me extroverted which helps me at work because I have to talk on the phone all day. The difference is like night and day and makes me think I either need to get a new job or should be professionally medicated.
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Hmmm sounde like it be dangerous for me as I might say something I'd regret LOL. Do you see that much of a difference when you take it as opposed to when you don't. I run workshops for youth groups and sometimes just don't feel like getting up in front of a group, I am wondering if this would help.
 
psychospic said:
Hmmm sounde like it be dangerous for me as i might say something I'd regret LOL. Do you see that much of a difference when you take it as opposed to when you don't. I run workshops for youth groups and soetimes just dont; feel like getting up in front of a group, I am wondering if this would help.
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yes def.....it has a potent calming effect on nerves,and anxiety
 
Ubiyca said:
well it's obviously phenibut but once tolerance comes around.. bleh

my first dose of it was like HEAVEN (psychotropin from ergopharm) 8 caps.. but... never again was it the same :(
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If you take Piracetam with Phenibut it seems to cancel out the tolerance...At least that is what it does for me. I take this:

Phenibut 2-3 grams 3 times per week (I only get a hangover above 3 grams)
Piracetam-7-10 grams ED
Choline Citrate - 5 grams ED
ALCAR-2 grams ED
PLCAR-1 gram ED
 
Where did you hear about taking Phenibut with Piracetam? Does anybody have more information about the possibility of Piracetam affecting Phenibut tolerance?
 
beric83 said:
Where did you hear about taking Phenibut with Piracetam? Does anybody have more information about the possibility of Piracetam affecting Phenibut tolerance?
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Just from personal experience. Piracetam alone doesn't give a euphoric feeling per se, but it does make one feel "smarter" I mega dose it before I take tests and I feel as though it helps.
 
beric83 said:
Gotcha, I see that people say to take choline with piracetam; why is that, and do you need to?
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Yes Choline should be a staple in any nootropic stack. From what I understand choline supply can get depleted from nootropic use and especially with ALCAR. I don't have any studies on hand, but I figure it wouldn't hurt to add it, plus it's cheap!
 
So most people have to say that Phenibut s the way to go? And do most of you go with the NP Phenibut powder?
 
Patrick Arnold said:
i take some most every morning too. takes the morning irritability away
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Never tried this. Going to have to give it a go. I am pretty much a **** in the morning.

Does it work the same way in the afternoon and evening too? :)
 
dsade said:
Never tried this. Going to have to give it a go. I am pretty much a **** in the morning.

Does it work the same way in the afternoon and evening too? :)
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I may as well- I am the biggest dickhead on the planet in the AM......:FUfinger:
 
Honestly guys, I get up 20 minutes before I need to, down 2-3 RPM's, and then go back to bed for 20 minutes, and when I wake up, I am ready to go!
 
TheMyth said:
Honestly guys, I get up 20 minutes before I need to, down 2-3 RPM's, and then go back to bed for 20 minutes, and when I wake up, I am ready to go!
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RPM in the AM plus Leviathon helps, but I am still a major *******....usually reverses itself after I run a few miles and/or I hit the track and weight room....
 
rms80 said:
RPM in the AM plus Leviathon helps, but I am still a major *******....usually reverses itself after I run a few miles and/or I hit the track and weight room....
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Well then, you sir need to be getting more loving! It's impossible to be mad when your getting great sex! BTW, you got mail.
 
yea neuro-balance caught my interest...I would like to try phenibut but the hangover, withdrawal, tolerence issues have me concerned....
I don't want to get hooked on the stuff and I don't want hangovers, but the potential benefits are appealing....
Anybody know if neuro-balance allows you to take phenibut more frequently while alleviating some of the negatives, or is phenibut simply to be taken on sporadic occasions?
 
Although I love Phenibut and the alcohol-free buzz that it gives, I think I would have to choose bulk Geranium for a euphoric feeling.
 
TripDog said:
careful with phenibut.....i took a gram and a half the other day...felt great..............THE NEXT DAY I WANTED TO DIE>>>>WAY WORSE THAN ALCOHOL HANGOVER!!!!
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BUMP TO THIS I felt more sick then anyother time in my life 10x worst then any alcohol hangover I have ever had. Other then that I haven't used any solo notro's but superpump and shock theropy are pretty nice to me.
 
I have yet to try this but apparently insufflating a 1:1 mixture of inositol and tyramine yields effects similar to cocaine. Phenibut enhances the euphoria.

Also, every time I take phenibut I feel f'ing amazing the next morning. I do not experience any hang over effect. I just feel fantastic. My friend also experiences this. I've taken pretty high doses before too.
 
TheMyth said:
Well then, you sir need to be getting more loving! It's impossible to be mad when your getting great sex! BTW, you got mail.
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Lmaoooo.

Phenibut has always worked nicely for me.

Gaba is good for sleep and hgh release a calming effect. You can mix Phen and Gaba at sleep time.

Ive had decent success with Pea/Hordenine.

Alcar gets the brain clicking

Tyrosine is awesome pre-workout and for a mood boost

Stimulant X seems to do the euphoria trick.

Of course Caffeine

Yohimbine is nice.

Leviathan By Palo Alto has Caff, Green tea, Caff, Yobimbine. Great esp in the mornings
 
How much phenibut is to much? I started with bout 1g and the next day tried about 1.5 but I didnt seem to feel anything from it. Didnt get the next morning hangover either. But how much would be to much? Im gonna try 2grams tomorrow and see what it does form me
 
TripDog said:
me too(i love gaba)..................oh god i just agreed with trogdork....lol!!
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Do you agree that GABA is the most horrible tasting substance ever?

For some reason (despite it's incredibly mild taste), I CANNOT stand it. I mix it in kool-aide ('cuz that's how trogdork rolls) and yuck, sh*t just makes me cringe.
 
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