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fatty said:
I just got my measurements after using Lipo-Y and cap cream for around 3 1/2 weeks. Nada. Here I thought I was noticing something...guess it was just my high hopes. There is too much positive praise for Lipo-Y though, so I'm chalking it up to my ****ty genetics.
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I just ordered lipo-Y... :blink:
how long does it suggest it takes to see results with all that you were doing?
 
Stay Puft said:
Wow. Given this, I'd be surprised if you weren't in deficit, with a sound diet and high work output, so I'll ask a few Q's.

1. How much weight have you lost during the LipoDerm-Y trial?
2. Are your applications on dry, clean and hairless skin?
2b. Fitting the above, are you allowing sufficiently time to dry (~10mins shirtless)?
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1. My weight has not gone down. I had my BF% and measurements done on June 15 and again yesterday. I'm 227lbs at 12.6%.
2. My applications are always done after I shower. Morning and night. Clean and hairless.
3. At night it's not so much of an issue with letting it dry. I can walk around shirtless and sit in from of a fan. At work, not so much. I usually put it on and stand around for 5 minutes or so

Trust me, I don't think it's the LipoDerm. I think it's me. My wife, mother-in-law, and a handful of other people that I've suggested try your product had great results.
Some people can just cut calories and do some cardio and they get ripped. The only way I've ever been able to get below 10% BF was to live off around 7 cans of tuna with 2 tbspn's of canola oil mayo a day for 8 weeks. Best shape of my life but I can't live like that.
I was just hoping to get a little of the blubber I hold around my belly button and love handle area to shrink down.
My genetics are what keep me from trying a lot of diet products. I want to try DCP but figure it'll just be a dissapointment again.
 
EmAzing said:
I just ordered lipo-Y... :blink:
how long does it suggest it takes to see results with all that you were doing?
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I'm sure you will have fine results. I'm just a freak and don't get good results from fatloss supps.
Hell, T3 hardly did anything for me once I reached approx. 12% BF.
 
Wow, I don't think I've heard of anyone not getting any results from Lipo + cap.

You might be a prime test subject for this stuff when we start doing public testing.
 
Sir Savage said:
Wow, I don't think I've heard of anyone not getting any results from Lipo + cap.

You might be a prime test subject for this stuff when we start doing public testing.
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well, despite lack of results, I'll continue using the Lipo + cap until the bottle is empty. I don't like the idea of stopping something after I've already paid for it. I've only got a few ounces left anyway.
 
fatty said:
1. My weight has not gone down. I had my BF% and measurements done on June 15 and again yesterday. I'm 227lbs at 12.6%.
2. My applications are always done after I shower. Morning and night. Clean and hairless.
3. At night it's not so much of an issue with letting it dry. I can walk around shirtless and sit in from of a fan. At work, not so much. I usually put it on and stand around for 5 minutes or so

Trust me, I don't think it's the LipoDerm. I think it's me. My wife, mother-in-law, and a handful of other people that I've suggested try your product had great results.
Some people can just cut calories and do some cardio and they get ripped. The only way I've ever been able to get below 10% BF was to live off around 7 cans of tuna with 2 tbspn's of canola oil mayo a day for 8 weeks. Best shape of my life but I can't live like that.
I was just hoping to get a little of the blubber I hold around my belly button and love handle area to shrink down.
My genetics are what keep me from trying a lot of diet products. I want to try DCP but figure it'll just be a dissapointment again.
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I work for the company that makes DCP and just like with Avants products you wont be disappointed. It has helped many a person lose decent amounts of weight. Maybe you should try some and run it with the Lipo...double hit it from the inside out?

Are you usually a non-responder to oral supps?
 
crader said:
I work for the company that makes DCP and just like with Avants products you wont be disappointed. It has helped many a person lose decent amounts of weight. Maybe you should try some and run it with the Lipo...double hit it from the inside out?

Are you usually a non-responder to oral supps?
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not wanting to hijack (much, but I always do) is there a way to request some DCP samples?
 
crader said:
I work for the company that makes DCP and just like with Avants products you wont be disappointed. It has helped many a person lose decent amounts of weight. Maybe you should try some and run it with the Lipo...double hit it from the inside out?

Are you usually a non-responder to oral supps?
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I guess that depends on what you mean by "non-responder"? I have some PPA (what used to be in Adipokinetix) and I get really good energy from that and it makes me sweat like no other. So yes, I respond, however as far as fat loss, there is usually little to none once I get to a certain point. My body just wants to hang on to every last ounce of fat.
I'm sure I'll cave and get some DCP, but it'll be down the road.

Good luck on your testing too. I didn't mean to hijack your thread.
 
fatty said:
I guess that depends on what you mean by "non-responder"? I have some PPA (what used to be in Adipokinetix) and I get really good energy from that and it makes me sweat like no other. So yes, I respond, however as far as fat loss, there is usually little to none once I get to a certain point. My body just wants to hang on to every last ounce of fat.
I'm sure I'll cave and get some DCP, but it'll be down the road.

Good luck on your testing too. I didn't mean to hijack your thread.
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No hi-jacking issues here. Its how we all learn. So what does your carb intake look like. DCP has helped me drop below my set point...now I'm going to add an appetite suppresent in. It seems once my body gets below a certain level of fat I feel like i'm starving all the time:(
 
crader said:
No hi-jacking issues here. Its how we all learn. So what does your carb intake look like. DCP has helped me drop below my set point...now I'm going to add an appetite suppresent in. It seems once my body gets below a certain level of fat I feel like i'm starving all the time:(
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I follow the Anabolic Diet. It's a low carb diet...I'm taking in
less then 30 per day.

The PPA helps with my appetite and I will use nicotine lozenges occasionally for appetite supression.

I've also been taking SesaThin for the last 10 days. 1.25ml 4 to 5 times per day.
 
fatty said:
I follow the Anabolic Diet. It's a low carb diet...I'm taking in
less then 30 per day.

The PPA helps with my appetite and I will use nicotine lozenges occasionally for appetite supression.

I've also been taking SesaThin for the last 10 days. 1.25ml 4 to 5 times per day.
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Are you doing any kind of refeed? After so many days of restricted carb intake, you need to take a day of low GI carbs to kick start your metabolism back up.
 
dsade said:
Are you doing any kind of refeed? After so many days of restricted carb intake, you need to take a day of low GI carbs to kick start your metabolism back up.
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Yes, on the Anabolic Diet refeeds are Saturday and Sunday. I usually only do 1 day however as carbs make me bloated and tired.
Dr. DiPasquale also recommends, after having been on the diet for awhile, a mid week carb load where you take in 1000 calories worth of carbs on Wednesday morning within 1 hour, then go back to the diet.
I haven't done this yet.

anyway, I don't want this thread to be about all of this. I appreciate the help you all are trying to give, but I should really post this in another forum.
 
crader said:
No hi-jacking issues here. Its how we all learn. So what does your carb intake look like. DCP has helped me drop below my set point...now I'm going to add an appetite suppresent in. It seems once my body gets below a certain level of fat I feel like i'm starving all the time:(
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Wow. DCP is really that good?
I know that I've been hearing that it is. How do you get samples anyway?
 
Sir Savage said:
Not quite.

After we finish the in-house testing, we're going to open it up more for public testing so keep an eye out for the call for testers.

I'm thinking more like 3-4 weeks.
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thats bad news for us :( ohh well i think i might have to go with Lipo-U
 
Sir Savage said:
Not quite.

After we finish the in-house testing, we're going to open it up more for public testing so keep an eye out for the call for testers.

I'm thinking more like 3-4 weeks.
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Ohhh that timing should hit just right for me being in the 14ish % range so i'd be in a good place to show the change.

I'm gonna have to make sure I keep my eyes peeled for the tester call
 
EasyEJL said:
Ohhh that timing should hit just right for me being in the 14ish % range so i'd be in a good place to show the change.

I'm gonna have to make sure I keep my eyes peeled for the tester call
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WHATEVER! you have the strap, you'll be in the single digits by then! :lol:
 
Obviously, I'm part of the in-house testing and although I shouldn't talk about it a whole lot right now...

:jaw:
 
I need to keep an eye on this. :type:

I think I'm gonna finally try Lipo-RK during this contest prep that just started this week; maybe I'll add this to it if it comes out in time!
 
rpen22 said:
I need to keep an eye on this. :type:

I think I'm gonna finally try Lipo-RK during this contest prep that just started this week; maybe I'll add this to it if it comes out in time!
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All I can say is "KEEP THE PRESSURE ON AVANT!!" :)
 
hmm, im interested in a topical now, i always thought they were bull but ive been reading and i think ill get a bottle, or maybe ill apply to test
well see
 
Try out Lipoderm-Ultra with raspberry ketones in the meantime.

And actually, you'll be able to stack Lipoderm-Ultra or Y with "Codename Pwnsauce". In fact, we recommend it.
 
Sir Savage said:
Try out Lipoderm-Ultra with raspberry ketones in the meantime.

And actually, you'll be able to stack Lipoderm-Ultra or Y with "Codename Pwnsauce". In fact, we recommend it.
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I think I'm gonna start Lipo-RK tomorrow!

So it's 2 grams RK per 4 ounce bottle of Lipo-U, right? How long can you continue to run Lipo?

One more question: Is it possible to use Lipo-U in one spot, and Lipo-Y in a different one at the same time?
 
Correct.

And I'd do it for 4-6 weeks, then take a couple of weeks off.

I'd probably just concentrate on one spot at a time. The fatty acids can be metablized easier if there are fewer of them being released.
 
Sir Savage said:
Correct.

And I'd do it for 4-6 weeks, then take a couple of weeks off.

I'd probably just concentrate on one spot at a time. The fatty acids can be metablized easier if there are fewer of them being released.
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so should I have been concentrating on say, just the fat around my belly button, instead of using the Lipo-Y on my love handles, around my belly button, my upper abs, etc...basically my entire abdominal area?
This lack of results really bummed me out last week. I've since stopped using the Lipo-Y and have been binging on food ever since. :food:
 
Well you can do something like that, but keep in mind that the more you spread the application area out, the more subtle the results are going to be relative to a smaller area. But if you're ok with that, cool. Just depends on the individual.
 
Just a thought Mr. Savage.

Pics are imo a necessity for doing logs like this. Anyone can say anything as far as results. But pics don't lie. I know you know this :D
 
sorry..we are travelling for business with inconsistent web access. for me resuts were extremely evident when i forgot to apply for 2 days.....lost all sub q water and leannes was very apparent.

updates will be posted probably tuesday.
 
Sir Savage said:
Oh, BTW, you love birds, by all means please commence the journal.
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Lol thank you for noticing. Well after being in Cali a week with no gym and not eating perfectly...well I need to start over. I'll get pics this time and a big plus for Avant, I brought my uhm what are you calling this stuff!!! Well anyway I brought it on the plane and as long as I twisted the cap NO leaking. It survived a week with not so much as a drop!

I can still see my abs though, so it really helped me to retain some of my hard work. Still loving it
 
crader said:
Lol thank you for noticing. Well after being in Cali a week with no gym and not eating perfectly...well I need to start over. I'll get pics this time and a big plus for Avant, I brought my uhm what are you calling this stuff!!! Well anyway I brought it on the plane and as long as I twisted the cap NO leaking. It survived a week with not so much as a drop!

I can still see my abs though, so it really helped me to retain some of my hard work. Still loving it
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Been following this log. Great job. Before and after pics would be stellar.
 
Ok to try and jumpstart my California trip rebuild, I put cap in my Napalm....wow for about 1 hr I actually felt the burn. Now regular lipo won't do this for me. So I can assume that the Napalm has different ingredients?
 
full ingredients are listed in the Napalm tester thread-synephrine,yohimbine,sesathin,raspbery ketones,glyceretinic acid(think i spelled tha wrong)
 
phantom said:
full ingredients are listed in the Napalm tester thread-synephrine,yohimbine,sesathin,raspbery ketones,glyceretinic acid(think i spelled tha wrong)
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Ahhh...no wonder the VAT reduction in Christine was so pronounced, in spite of NOT using Abliderate.

Ideally, it seems Napalm would stack excellently with 11-OXO.
 
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