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deerdeer is only on 2nd week, and he does'nt seem like the type to exagerate. if my results compare to his after only 2 weeks, i will be very satisfied. those are impressive results for just 2 weeks. :pizza:
 
thebigt said:
deerdeer is only on 2nd week, and he does'nt seem like the type to exagerate. if my results compare to his after only 2 weeks, i will be very satisfied. those are impressive results for just 2 weeks. :pizza:
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One little addendum - initial starting weight was 210, this am a leaner 214. Not so bad!
 
Patrick Arnold said:
the extreme is meant to be taken after but try it if you want
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PA, I am planning on ordering this today. How many weeks do you reco 11oxo (saw your dosage thoughts on another psot), following by how many weeks of Extreme?

Any other recos on liver support, or anything else you would reco?
 
Patrick Arnold said:
quercetin and piperine help prevent its deactivation in the liver. that is not the same as breakdown in the digestive tract

i made an estimate as to the amount of quercetin and piperine that would be sufficient

good luck on your cycle
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Thanks PA, I appreciate it!

One last question (for now :) ) What are thoughts on the possible estrogenic side effects from mega-dosing on reservatrol. From my understanding, since 6OXO is an AI it wouldn't actually do anything additional to prevent the effects of such. Or am I wrong in thinking this? If not, would a more specific "estrogen inhibitor" be suggested If I would to do something like this?

Once again, I appreciate any thoughts or concerns you might have.
 
riseboi said:
Thanks PA, I appreciate it!

One last question (for now :) ) What are thoughts on the possible estrogenic side effects from mega-dosing on reservatrol. From my understanding, since 6OXO is an AI it wouldn't actually do anything additional to prevent the effects of such. Or am I wrong in thinking this? If not, would a more specific "estrogen inhibitor" be suggested If I would to do something like this?

Once again, I appreciate any thoughts or concerns you might have.
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I'm confused; did I miss where it says Resveratrol could have possible estrogenic sides? I was under the impression Resveratrol would have anti-estrogen effects if anything.:think:

Could you point me in the direction of this if I missed it somewhere?
 
rpen22 said:
I'm confused; did I miss where it says Resveratrol could have possible estrogenic sides? I was under the impression Resveratrol would have anti-estrogen effects if anything.:think:

Could you point me in the direction of this if I missed it somewhere?
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I've read a few different articles that indicated that res is a phyotoestrogen. If you google res and estrogren or phytoestrogen a few links will come up.
 
rpen22 said:
I'm confused; did I miss where it says Resveratrol could have possible estrogenic sides? I was under the impression Resveratrol would have anti-estrogen effects if anything.:think:

Could you point me in the direction of this if I missed it somewhere?
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Yes strange. I take Res for it's anti-estrogen properties.

• Acts as both an estrogen antagonist and an aromatase inhibitor.

• Increases Testosterone without causing testicular shutdown

• Promotes blood vessel health and cardiovascular health in general

• Exhibits anti-cancer effects, particularly anti prostate-cancer effects

• Exhibits anti-aging effects

• Promotes fat loss

• Has anti-inflammatory properties

• Acts as an anti-oxidant

• Exhibits anti-arthritic effects

• Shows anti-fungal and anti-viral effects

• Acts as a liver protectant
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riseboi said:
I could be totally wrong though since I just saw a posy by PA where he indicated that res acts as a SERM.

I also found this too though..

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shiiit anybody make any sense out of that? sounds like 'he said she said':lol: .
 
IF one was to take 3-AD....

What are your thoughts to taking 6-OXO Extreme as a Post Cycle Therapy as compared to Anabolic Extreme's "PCT"....???
 
1st does is first thing int he Am - between 5:30 and 7. 2nd dose is usually after dinner - whenever that is. I would aim for 1 dose every 12 hours to be consistent.

RHB31 said:
DeerDeer...
What times are you taking your doses?
Also, with what food are you taking them with?
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Thanks!
I started yesterday at 10/day, 5 at 4AM empty stomach pre-workout and 5 in the evening with food.

I used to take Forza T (also had 6OXO and ZMA) and did it the same way with great results !

Let's keep each other posted
 
Anybody thinking of using this as PCT for something a little stronger than 11-oxo? Is Reservatrol a strong enough SERM to handle some of the other stuff out there? I'm sure most are gonna say it is not, but I can't help but wonder. Maybe 6-oxo extreme along with a low dose Toremifene?
 
has anyone who has used this or stand alone 6oxo experienced any shedding??? Is there any conversion to DHT?

Also, Deerdeer, how has the lethargy been? You mentioned this was starting, has it gotten any worse?
 
Lethargy is about the same, maybe a little less either because I am used to it or because it is overlooked by my increased caffeine intake and use of clearshot or superpump preworkout.

kraftkid said:
has anyone who has used this or stand alone 6oxo experienced any shedding??? Is there any conversion to DHT?

Also, Deerdeer, how has the lethargy been? You mentioned this was starting, has it gotten any worse?
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completed week 3. I don't know exactly what to make of this week.

Strength is UP! Definitely feel slike I am on something strengthwise. Can complete 2-3 more reps with atleast 5-10% more weight on average all around. It is taking me a bit longer to get warmed up. No joint aches. Iam usually sore for 2-3 days after squats - it lasted less than two days though everything felt a bit tighter.

Libido - not as crazy as early on but slightly above baseline. It still possesses the dimension that I mentioned presviously, no need to repeat.

Weight. I am down to 210. Right where I started, but leaner. I have noticed slight increases in vascularity, some abs showing. Again - am I training harder? Am I just more motivated? Not sure - but I did notice that my appetite has been down for the last 10 days. I am still consuming the same amount of protein +/- 10-20grams here adn there. Diet is still clean.

What do I make of it so far? We'll see. I htought it was bulking me up at first, but seems to be cutting a tad. Gains in strenght are slow but linear.

More to come.
 
Now that is bizarre.
I am into day 8 and just have good feelings thus far and some more UMMPH in my workouts....and some Ab-revealing.
Would like the MASS to kick in !
 
You can trick mushrooms into growing all sorts of chemicals by feeding them weird chemicals.

For instance, you can make 5-MeO-DMT mushrooms, which do not occur in nature.

I have no idea weather it is possible to make 6-bromo mushrooms though, just saying I would not be surprised.
 
nelix said:
You can trick mushrooms into growing all sorts of chemicals by feeding them weird chemicals.

For instance, you can make 5-MeO-DMT mushrooms, which do not occur in nature.

I have no idea weather it is possible to make 6-bromo mushrooms though, just saying I would not be surprised.
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mushrooms are fungi.

fungi, bacteria, and molds are all microbes and microbes have an amazing capacity to metabolize steroids and other natural compounds. In fact, many of the steroids today are manufactured by biotransformation processes using specialized bacteria

These microbes are equipped with enzymes and these enzymes form the metabolic transformations.

knowing this, and knowing that there is no known enzyme that adds bromine atoms to natural compounds (a "brominase?"), then i think it is safe to say mushrooms are incapable of performing this reaction

as far as 5-methoxy DMT is concerned, i am not one bit surprised that a microbe can synthesize this. there is nothing unusual about a methoxy functional group
 
actually i stand corrected as i found something indicating that some bacteria can halognenate compounds

bromine is a halogen
 
Has any one experienced any hair loss or libido loss using 6oxo? Rebound XT caused both for me and wanted to find a substitute. Would 6oxo be it?
 
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