New Monster Hormone

sublimejeh said:
It sounds like people are being too optimistic here... Not to be harsh or anything, but its very shady having 2 different ingredients labeled and having the actual compound be un-methylated. That doesn't just happen by accident, you don't just forget to add a methyl group in LOL

Just my 2 cents
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i agree with sublime
 
Alpine said:
Thats the point, it's most likely not unmethylated. Furthermore, they didnt "deceive" anyone with labels on purpose. The labels were messed up (lost in translation) in Japan when they were printed. Refer to my previous post where you have a 17alpha on the label with nothing following it - obviously an error, not by design. You have to use a little common sense here people. Dr. D hasn't responded to me or others who have tested it yet. I'm not sure of all the details but I do trust his word too. As for what "people say" in terms of their results taking it, I would take that with a grain of salt.

If it is indeed 100% what its supposed to be, this will be nothing like any of the designers you have tried before. It would be very mild I think. 7mg of anavar a day would be pretty mild and not extremely noticeable as well. It's still a very desirable compound. Just because one random guy I have never heard of says he didn't make gains means nothing to me. I see people whining about how they made no gains on 500mg/wk of test too. It must be fake!
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but who wants methylated anavar that doesnt do much for ya unless you gotta take a toxic dose??? itll only really be usefull for someone to run a steady rec. dose and post blood and another to run a high dose and post blood.... otherwise NO it isnt too much to ask for something from the same thing thats tearin up your liver.

edit: dont most folks using anavar dose 40-60mg ED???? AND THIS IS A ? i hardly remember as i dont dable in illegals and cant remember what ive read very well....

my only point being i prefer not to dose above 50 mg of any methylated supp (if it is) and if it is(methylated), its not even worth comparing to anavar....on the other hand if its not.... then your correct.

but why do you think its a mis translation when i totes METHYL all through their advertising??? doesnt line up with the idea that only the chem form got messed in translation. more likely the chem house messed up... and lied, not SFR.
 
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Guys, this may be one of the safest compounds out right now, generally speaking. Probably a mild AI as well.
 
poopypants said:
but who wants methylated anavar that doesnt do much for ya unless you gotta take a toxic dose??? itll only really be usefull for someone to run a steady rec. dose and post blood and another to run a high dose and post blood.... otherwise NO it isnt too much to ask for something from the same thing thats tearin up your liver.

edit: dont most folks using anavar dose 40-60mg ED???? AND THIS IS A ? i hardly remember as i dont dable in illegals and cant remember what ive read very well....

my only point being i prefer not to dose above 50 mg of any methylated supp (if it is) and if it is(methylated), its not even worth comparing to anavar....on the other hand if its not.... then your correct.

but why do you think its a mis translation when i totes METHYL all through their advertising??? doesnt line up with the idea that only the chem form got messed in translation. more likely the chem house messed up... and lied, not SFR.
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Anavar is methylated. People take 150-250mg of methylated compounds all of the time without problems. The only reason oral steroids have a bad rap is because they were frist tested on bedridden patients who were in horrible shape. They dosed Anadrol at like 700mg/day.

Anyways, this is probably my last update, I won't have access to a computer for awhile. I really like Oxyguno, great pumps and I think it's made for cutting/slow gaining. Next time I run it I will probably do 2 bottles at 2 tabs per day for 100 days.

So far, I've gained about 7lbs of pure muscle in 2.5-3 weeks, and cut out about 2lbs of fat. I'm very happy with it.
 
DR.D said:
Guys, this may be one of the safest compounds out right now, generally speaking. Probably a mild AI as well.
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An AI as well? Interesting. Similar to Epistane/Hemaguno perhaps? The more I hear about Oxyguno the more it sounds like it would make a decent stacker for Epi/Hema.
 
mattikus said:
An AI as well? Interesting. Similar to Epistane/Hemaguno perhaps? The more I hear about Oxyguno the more it sounds like it would make a decent stacker for Epi/Hema.
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I am only guessing based on the structure! Probably a 5a-reductase inhibitor too, which is cool also. You better max out the dose if you wanna see anything though. I would probably triple dose or at least double dose it, but that's just me and of course I can't recommend you deviate from the label suggestion.
 
evan said:
Just from my personal use the product matches claims(from manufactures description.
The only problem i have is ,while accurate i am sure they know the average person would misinterprate it as meaning "anabolic" as in i will gain 50 pounds and my bench will double in a month(deceptive). what they are really stating
"clearly" is it has the best anabolic vs androgenic ratio. like alpine said it is like var. They also know compounds like this are far outsold by weight gainer d-bol clones. they throw in a few key phrases anabolic,potent,stroner then.

They are not lying the never make any claims for weight gain or explosive strength gain

I far prefer this to epi, but i fall into the strong minority,. They are tryin to move product and are marketing to the uninformed, what do you guys expect them to say "this stuff is awsome, well atleast for the 10 percent of you that know how to use it" they would't sell very much that way
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jesus evan...i hate to **** on your cheerios but you've exceeded your quota for inane posts for one thread!
 
DR.D said:
I am only guessing based on the structure! Probably a 5a-reductase inhibitor too, which is cool also. You better max out the dose if you wanna see anything though. I would probably triple dose or at least double dose it, but that's just me and of course I can't recommend you deviate from the label suggestion.
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That would be cool. I am going to give this thing a shot and stack it with the Epistane I'm running now. Maybe four or five pills on top of 20 mg of Epi. I've seen bloodwork two weeks into a similar stack and it looks fine. And any thoughts on the Furaguno?
 
any chance you can post where you saw that blood work bro? Thanks.

Mr.50

mattikus said:
That would be cool. I am going to give this thing a shot and stack it with the Epistane I'm running now. Maybe four or five pills on top of 20 mg of Epi. I've seen bloodwork two weeks into a similar stack and it looks fine. And any thoughts on the Furaguno?
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SAME OLD,

my statements have plenty of substance, just because you and others, like to throw around scientific jargon that half the people on the board wont understand(as many say this) doesn't mean i have to. I provide basic and helpful explanations that i believe people can understand. I like to provide a backround as to where my answers are coming from. Saying why people aren't getting intended results in this thread(due to factual, yet deceptive write up) and why i believe this compound or any methylated compound is not life threatning in a previous one are hardly inane. You have a certain amount of knowledge and understanding and are assuming everyone knows where you are coming from. I am on this forum to learn and help as many people as i can, i like to explain things so as many people can understand them as possible, that is just "my" style

I have gotten positive reps for providing good explanations and summarry(as per reason for reps) on
more then one occasion, and know i am helping people out that is all that matters to me
 
i just finished my last pill, it has been 20 days on oxyguno i just stepped on the scale today,,i have gained about 1lb,,no increase in strength or muscle that i can see by eye, skin seems a little dry on my face and scalp. other than that there is not much more i can comment on...not a product i will purchase again..I will test if furaguno lives up to its claim when it is released within the next few weeks.
 
hardee17 said:
Anavar is methylated. People take 150-250mg of methylated compounds all of the time without problems. The only reason oral steroids have a bad rap is because they were frist tested on bedridden patients who were in horrible shape. They dosed Anadrol at like 700mg/day.

Anyways, this is probably my last update, I won't have access to a computer for awhile. I really like Oxyguno, great pumps and I think it's made for cutting/slow gaining. Next time I run it I will probably do 2 bottles at 2 tabs per day for 100 days.

So far, I've gained about 7lbs of pure muscle in 2.5-3 weeks, and cut out about 2lbs of fat. I'm very happy with it.
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like i said i aint read up on it for a while as i dont even dable in it..... but i DO feel like a retard now... THANKS. lol.

still dunno though if id like to triple-quadruple dose an un established "novel" compound....

although im not throwin it out as a useless compound like the others i found Prostan was great when stacked and feel this is right up this alley... just needs some price changes or amount/dosing changes to make it more reasonably economical for not being a "killer" compound. jmo
 
Ok...maybe I'm wrong. But it looks like this compound is suppose to be use for long cycle. Come on guys....real anavar took more than 15 day's to see real results. Then if you use real potent steroids before like M1T, Superdrol etc...hell what do you expect when your taking a Anavar like product. I think people where expecting wayyyyyy tooo much from this. Is it a possibilty that it was meant to be use for a whole Pre contest cycle at the recommended dose. (10 - 8 weeks)

Just my 2 cent thou.....
 
Genetic79 said:
Ok...maybe I'm wrong. But it looks like this compound is suppose to be use for long cycle. Come on guys....real anavar took more than 15 day's to see real results. Then if you use real potent steroids before like M1T, Superdrol etc...hell what do you expect when your taking a Anavar like product. I think people where expecting wayyyyyy tooo much from this. Is it a possibilty that it was meant to be use for a whole Pre contest cycle at the recommended dose. (10 - 8 weeks)

Just my 2 cent thou.....
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its intended use is made quite clear by the associated advertising and such that comes with the product, it just didnt work out.

as for why your binging this up 2 weeks after anyone even cares and realized its not worth their time at this dose and price is beyond me though.:fool2:
 
Genetic79 said:
Ok...maybe I'm wrong. But it looks like this compound is suppose to be use for long cycle. Come on guys....real anavar took more than 15 day's to see real results. Then if you use real potent steroids before like M1T, Superdrol etc...hell what do you expect when your taking a Anavar like product. I think people where expecting wayyyyyy tooo much from this. Is it a possibilty that it was meant to be use for a whole Pre contest cycle at the recommended dose. (10 - 8 weeks)

Just my 2 cent thou.....
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If the re-dosed it and re-priced it, this may work as a var like product. Feeback kinda evaporated on this one so I'm still undecided on its value.
 
i took 5 pills a day for 20 days..did not do anything,,not even a slight pumped up feeling..i am so sad...yet i just ordered some furaguno yesterday....so i will keep everyone updated..SFR has two strikes against them in my book with hema and oxy...three strikes and your out.
 
,,oh yea,,three strikes against sfr,,tried the furaguno about a year ago(sorry for the slow update)..nice lime green colored pill,,slight ether sweet odor,,,,,,not a product i would purchase again.
 
The original PH/PS in question's been out for a while - Oxyguno. Completely underdosed, weak, and not worth the money IMO.
 
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