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superdrol, epistane log

Well I just checked my weight and im 195. Not sure how this is possible. Even if the mdrol is complete crap, I should have still gained a lil bit of weight due to the amount of food I have been eating. Do you guys think I should stay at 20mgs for this week also?
 
hurdlemaker said:
Well I just checked my weight and im 195. Not sure how this is possible. Even if the mdrol is complete crap, I should have still gained a lil bit of weight due to the amount of food I have been eating. Do you guys think I should stay at 20mgs for this week also?
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I say go to 30mg as long as you're not getting bad sides at 20mg now
 
BigBoy12 said:
what did you take for the first 8 weeks?
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1-15 test enanthate @ 840mg
5-15 T-4
9-15 Epistane @ 30-40mg
1-4 d-bol 20/25/25/30 (these were supposed to be 10mg pills but they ended up being 5mg pills so i had to cut it 2 weeks short and lower the dosing a little bit too)


day 2 of epistane....
-ridiculous pumps today taking 10mg at 830am, and 20mg at 230pm, workout at 330pm...strength didn't change much but I'm expecting +15-20lbs. on all my major lifts after hearing everyone elses results....
 
OK Quick question: the nolva(liquid) on lion.... is it injectable, do you drink it or both.. sorry for the randomness... just wondering before i ordered bc of the syringe Thanks for the help fellas
 
HGBurg said:
OK Quick question: the nolva(liquid) on lion.... is it injectable, do you drink it or both.. sorry for the randomness... just wondering before i ordered bc of the syringe Thanks for the help fellas
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you drink tamoxifen citrate
 
Day 8

Not sure about diet, sorry, I know protein was over 300, but i drank so i have not idea of how to guess that crap, lol

Went out tonight for the first time in a long time, im a lightweight(edited by c32amg)

took a lot of perfect cycle

drinking a LOT of water, while at the bar(edited by c32amg) to try and save my liver(edited by hurdlemaker)

Felt really strong today, finally

Workout:
Wide grip pulldowns:175x12, 200x12, 225x10, 250(the whole stack)x8
Cable Rows:180x12, 195x10, 210x8, 225x14(wtf)
Close Grip Pulldowns:180x12, 195x10, 210x8, 225x8
Angled Rows:180x12, 230x10, 270x6, 180x8(dropdown)
DB Shrugs:125x12, 125x10, 80x12, 80x12
 
just curious, hurdlemaker, do you use strict form or do you just get the weight up? not tryna be a d!ck just wondering how good your form is?
 
Day 10

Calories:4081
Fat:135
Carbs:337
Protein:367

Workout
Flat DB flys:50x12, 50x12, 50x12, 50x12
superset with flat bench press:225x8, 225x7, 225x8, 275x5
Incline DB flys:40x12, 50x12, 50x12, 50x10
superset with incline bench:185x8, 185x7, 185x7, 225x5
Cable Crossovers:100x12, 120x12, 140x6, 80x16
Standing EZ bar curls: 95x12, 105x10, 115x8
Alternating DB curls:45x10, 45x9, 45x9
Concentration curls:30x12, 35x10, 40x8

Supersetting flys before every set of presses made the presses VERY difficult. Hope my chest got a good workout, hope i start gaining some damn weight soon...
 
Wow, my roomates have pulled a really good prank on me. They replaced my mdrol with acidophilus. Which explains why i havent gained much weight and ive been craping all the time. They really got me. When my package came in they opened it and replaced the pills. They managed to reseal the mdrol bottle perfectly. They also re-taped my package perfectly. These bastards. Im over here wondering wtf is going on, i didnt know if the mdrol was crap or if my body just didnt want to grow, lol. Well today is day 1...
 
hurdlemaker said:
Wow, my roomates have pulled a really good prank on me. They replaced my mdrol with acidophilus. Which explains why i havent gained much weight and ive been craping all the time. They really got me. When my package came in they opened it and replaced the pills. They managed to reseal the mdrol bottle perfectly. They also re-taped my package perfectly. These bastards. Im over here wondering wtf is going on, i didnt know if the mdrol was crap or if my body just didnt want to grow, lol. Well today is day 1...
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I really respect you for laughing about that. I would be so pissed!!!!!!!
 
look at the good side.........

atleast you didn't start making all these HUGE claims about gaining mass and such and THEN hav ethem tell you it was acidophilus! :toofunny:
 
lol yeah man, idk how I had such an insane back day the other day, placebo effect? Its not that big of a deal, im pretty laid back.
 
hurdlemaker said:
lol yeah man, idk how I had such an insane back day the other day, placebo effect? Its not that big of a deal, im pretty laid back.
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They did pull one over on you. Sounds like something my college roommates would have done! Payback is always so sweet ;)
:duel:

Workin
 
Day 1 (lol)

Weight:197

Calories:3711
Fat:88
Carbs:340
Protein:379

Workout
Squats:225x12, 275x12, 315x12, 365x10
Front Squats:135x12, 185x12
Leg Press:540x12, 720x12, 900x6
lots of calves

Ive actually gained 2lbs. I guess its from eating so much and hitting the gym hard, which is sweet. Now my goal is that much closer. So lets try starting this over...
 
hurdlemaker said:
Day 1 (lol)

Weight:197

Calories:3711
Fat:88
Carbs:340
Protein:379

Workout
Squats:225x12, 275x12, 315x12, 365x10
Front Squats:135x12, 185x12
Leg Press:540x12, 720x12, 900x6
lots of calves

Ive actually gained 2lbs. I guess its from eating so much and hitting the gym hard, which is sweet. Now my goal is that much closer. So lets try starting this over...
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Do you feel you gained 2 pounds of lean muscle or possibly a slight amount of body fat?

Looking forward to your cycle...again ;) Be sure and guard your supplements. :D

Workin

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
Do you feel you gained 2 pounds of lean muscle or possibly a slight amount of body fat?

Looking forward to your cycle...again ;) Be sure and guard your supplements. :D

Workin

Workin
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I dont feel as if my bf is any higher, i feel slightly thicker and fuller though
 
hurdlemaker said:
Also for everyone talking about the bf%. I also realize that its not possible to get below a certain %. And trying to guess someones bodyfat from looking at a few pictures of them isnt very accurate. Its funny that some people try and act educated and at the same time are making guesses based on someones pictures. Sorry, not trying to be rude. I also do not have a personal trainer, I am taking a personal training class and 2 of my classmates did a bodyfat analysis of me using calipers and checking 3 different sections of my body. They were actually laughing because they couldnt pinch the skin on my chest or quads, and barely on my stomach. So the instructor actually came over and did it as well. No big deal though. Im not that worried about it.
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Don't take people educating you personally bud.

"Literally" you have about 3% essential fat in bone marrow, brain, heart, etc. The calipers are wrong and they are that way the leaner you get. Those people who said 8% were pretty right on.

You look good and lean at 3% or 8%, so don't worry about it.

Good luck on the cycle.

And, sorry to hear about your roomates making you **** your brains out :D
 
hurdlemaker said:
yeah man i think the roomates and I are gonna have to order some more poseidon soon, lol, we all use it so it goes fast
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Glad to hear you guys are getting good results with Poseidon! How many serving do you guys take per day, if you don't mind me asking?

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
Glad to hear you guys are getting good results with Poseidon! How many serving do you guys take per day, if you don't mind me asking?

Workin
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I usually take 2 scoops pre workout and one during, and every once in a while ill take a scoop in the morning
 
Day 2

Cant really estimate diet today. I ate a lot of homemade stuff that mom sent that I cant figure out nutritional info on.

Workout:
Military Press Machine:90x12, 180x12, 270x10
DB Shoulder Press:80x12, 85x10, 90x8
Front DB Raises:35x12, 40x12, 45x10
Lat Raises:25x12, 25x12, 30x10
DB Skull Crushers:90x12, 100x12, 110x10
Cable Tricep Extensions:160x12, 200x12, 220x10
 
yesterday i think i had gumbo with rice, and then I had some redbeans and dirty rice the day before, but I could figure that one out. I did actually eat mcdonalds yesterday for the first time in like 3 months, lol
 
Day 5

Calories:3130
Fat:57.5
Carbs:302
Protein:351

Workout:
Pec Dec:120x12, 180x12, 210x12
Incline DB Press:100x12, 110x8, 120x6
Flat DB Press:90x12, 100x8, 110x6
Crossovers:120x12, 140x12, 160x8, dropdown with 100x8
Preacher Curl Machine:90x12, 115x10, 135x8 dropdown with 90x5
Cable Curls:8x12, 10x12, 12x11
21s:70, 80
Then abs
 
Yea bro i would have been rippin pissed if they did that to me... i wish you luck on the cycle bro.I had mcdonalds yesterday for the first time in like 3 years,so don't feel too bad..lol :food:
 
TripDog said:
Yea bro i would have been rippin pissed if they did that to me... i wish you luck on the cycle bro.I had mcdonalds yesterday for the first time in like 3 years,so don't feel too bad..lol :food:
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:pizza: You have to every now and then! :thumbsup:

Workin
 
Day 6

Calories:3340
Fat:72
Carbs:312
Protein:354

Workout:
Modified Squats (machine):180x12, 270x12, 360x12, 450x11
Leg Press: 540x12, 630x10, 720x8
calves

Those machine squats were intense, a buddy of ours showed us how to do them, i got dizzy and saw spots after the last set. I couldnt do anymore legs after leg press, my pump was so insane, it felt like my muscles were gonna rip off away from my knee, lol. I also need to start eating a lil more again I think. Also ive been feeling really lethargic, which sux.
 
are we gonna get a weight increase update soon? :thumbsup:

didn't know if you were gonna do it weekly or not......
 
hurdlemaker said:
I like staying lean, I actually need to raise the amount of carbs im intaking though, its just difficult to eat that much all the time
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I respond better to lower carbs myself, anything above 150 grams bloats me to no end...everyones different. ;)

Workin
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Hey Tom, how you liking the T4?
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pretty good...clen burned fat faster and more though...i got up to 200mcg but lethargy was horrible so im at 150 steady now until the end of my cycle when i taper down 100 and 50

i havent gained any weight or seen any anabolic effects from it..i'm actually only 2 pounds up from when i started the epistane a week and a half ago..i guess i was just expecting more
 
hurdlemaker said:
I like staying lean, I actually need to raise the amount of carbs im intaking though, its just difficult to eat that much all the time
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there is a big misconception that carbs make u fat..carbs generally should account for 50-60% of your calories...as long as u keep them complex all day....simple pre/post workout...and limit them the few hours before bed...u will still be just as lean...taking in 300+ grams of protein at 200 pounds- it isnt possible to absorb it all...6 meals with 40 grams would be perfect at ur size while taking PS's...

haha and im sure if u can take in that many grams of protein u can switch it to 100+ grams of carbs...especially on superdrol...
 
Tom 185 said:
there is a big misconception that carbs make u fat..carbs generally should account for 50-60% of your calories...as long as u keep them complex all day....simple pre/post workout...and limit them the few hours before bed...u will still be just as lean...taking in 300+ grams of protein at 200 pounds- it isnt possible to absorb it all...6 meals with 40 grams would be perfect at ur size while taking PS's...

haha and im sure if u can take in that many grams of protein u can switch it to 100+ grams of carbs...especially on superdrol...
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yeah im having 3 shakes a day and 3 meals, thats why its harder to get the carbs, also i have a crazy fast metabolism, today i had a lot of complex carbs though, and lifted a lot of weight, ill post it up in a few...
 
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