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Have you used X-factor?

Have you used X-factor?

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Aeternitatis said:
2 Tbsp. fish oil? Jesus man! That's a lot. That's about 30 grams of fish oil daily. If you do try XF, take a month or longer to taper down your dose to 2 teaspoons fish oil per day. If you just suddenly add XF right now with such a high fish oil dose or if you suddenly drop the fish oil, you will get some serious side effects.

Man, that is just too much fish oil. How long have you been dosing that high?
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Couple of months, I try to get a gram of DHA and gram and a half of EPA a day.

Looks like I'll have to skip out on X-factor :\ healthy heart and good joints have precedence over a couple pounds of muscle.
 
BOHICA said:
Looks like I'll have to skip out on X-factor :\ healthy heart and good joints have precedence over a couple pounds of muscle.
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That's a very narrow understanding of what contributes to healthy heart and joints. But you can go ahead and compromise metabolic efficiency with high dose fish oil if you want.
 
Honestly, I have been out of the supplement loop for too long and dont know what I need to try.. If you could PM me some info on it and recommendations for my body weight(240) I would love to give it a try. I workout pretty hard and have been working out for 10 years.. Please PM it to me since I may liss the reply here..

Thanks
 
BOHICA said:
Couple of months, I try to get a gram of DHA and gram and a half of EPA a day.

Looks like I'll have to skip out on X-factor :\ healthy heart and good joints have precedence over a couple pounds of muscle.
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Not to mention all the positive effects fish oil has on the brain and on fat storage and metabolism... A supplement has to be pretty damn amazing if I'm gonna give up my fish oil. :D
 
psycho said:
Honestly, I have been out of the supplement loop for too long and dont know what I need to try.. If you could PM me some info on it and recommendations for my body weight(240) I would love to give it a try. I workout pretty hard and have been working out for 10 years.. Please PM it to me since I may liss the reply here..

Thanks
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cant pm you. need to be a gold or silver member i believe. sorry bud.

lot of good products out there. looking into these companies and products for starters

Molecular Nutrition: X-Factor
Designer Supplements: ActivaTe, rebound reloaded
USP Labs/Synergy Muscle: PowerFULL, Camphibolic, Anabolic Pump
ALR Industries: BAM, Jungle Warfare

good luck:dl:
 
Thanks Pioneer.. I noticed the no PMs after I posted that..

I am looking at the Activate and Powerfull right now.. Hoping to do some math tonight to see exactly what I need to get a good cycle..
 
TeamSavage said:
Not to mention all the positive effects fish oil has on the brain and on fat storage and metabolism... A supplement has to be pretty damn amazing if I'm gonna give up my fish oil. :D
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Fish oil actually desensitizes the body to insulin once you start getting into the high long term doses.
 
Aeternitatis said:
Fish oil actually desensitizes the body to insulin once you start getting into the high long term doses.
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What's the ranges of "High dose" that your referring to aeternitatis?
 
im giving xfactor another run at 1250mg.

is the protocol with xf still avoid all fish oil supplements and foods? or is pb and maybe an EOD consuming of fish oil foods ok?
 
I remember reading somewhere that phosphate bond said it was okay to consume some efa's, not sure what types or the amounts though.
 
Pioneer said:
im giving xfactor another run at 1250mg.

is the protocol with xf still avoid all fish oil supplements and foods? or is pb and maybe an EOD consuming of fish oil foods ok?
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Peanut butter is fine. Eating fish occasionally is fine too. I wish I could give you an exact number, but everyone seems to be responding differently in this regard. Basically, don't drastically change your diet too much. We've noticed that most side effects are coming from people who were used to mega-dosing fish oil and then just suddenly dropped it.

If you're using a fish oil supp, stick with 1 capsule per day. If you're getting good results from XF and 1 fish oil cap, then you can try and up the fish to 2 caps per day. It's all about finding the combination that works for you. Although I personally get the best results from a minimum of fish oil... something like ~300mg EPA/DHA every other day.
 
Personally, I have tapered off the fish oils before going on X-Factor with great success. Everytime I do the cycle, it kicks hard, and just right, so I won't change this. As Aeternitatis stated, everyone is different...
 
Yeah, I was just giving those options because most people are reluctant to stop or significantly reduce fish oil use. But I get the best out of a cycle when I get the majority of my fats from animal sources and limit my fish oil intake to 3 caps per WEEK max.
 
AETERNITIS, how do you feel about XFactor and the use of PH? good idea to include or save for PCT or save for AFTER PCT?

I have jjohn's opinion, just wondering how you feel.
 
Aeternitatis said:
If you're using a fish oil supp, stick with 1 capsule per day. If you're getting good results from XF and 1 fish oil cap, then you can try and up the fish to 2 caps per day. It's all about finding the combination that works for you.
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what would be the indicator to back off that second cap? XF is on my the list of supps. to do, just wondering what would I be looking for in myself to determine that combination you refer to?

thanks.
 
macedaddy said:
AETERNITIS, how do you feel about XFactor and the use of PH? good idea to include or save for post cycle therapy or save for AFTER post cycle therapy?

I have jjohn's opinion, just wondering how you feel.
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First, let me just say that I have never stacked the two.

I'd say if you're an experienced PH/AAS user, then timing XF to kick in DURING your cycle could be a good way to maximize gains through increased AR density.

If you're new to PH/AAS, X-Factor would probably be best suited timed to kick in during PCT so as to help you retain those gains.
 
Have not tried it.... but that doesn't mean I have anything against it.
One of few truly solid products as far as overall feedback goes!
 
Lanbane said:
Have not tried it.... but that doesn't mean I have anything against it.
One of few truly solid products as far as overall feedback goes!
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Thanks a lot Lanbane. But you need to get an avatar up!

If you or anyone at App Nut wants to try it, please send MN's friendly *Director of AM&M a private message or email. Spread the love. :cheers:

*that would be me :D
 
XF is a kick azz product. I have used it before and got very nice results with it. I would use it again in a heartbeat.
 
What would happen if you stacked a MN shirt and an AX Alpha Male shirt (The totally redesigned ones at the Arnold)?

I bet you could get 100lbs! :jaw:

too bad you won't be at the Arnold, aeternitis, we could put this to the test! :(

btw, my 1250mg cycle of FX is going wonderfully! i started it about 3 weeks ago and it should kick in nicely just in time for PCT! :thumbsup:
 
macedaddy said:
What would happen if you stacked a MN shirt and an AX Alpha Male shirt (The totally redesigned ones at the Arnold)?

too bad you won't be at the Arnold, aeternitis, we could put this to the test! :(
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The only way to find out now is for you to send me the shirt along with some HDX2. :food:

Oh, and be sure to go to the MN booth and complain to Bill and Catherine about how I'm not there. Get a big mob together and protest. I want them to know how many people love me. :smite:
 
CHAPS said:
Anyone used it in a post cycle therapy?
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I am using it right now in PCT.

I timed the 1250mg for 60 day cycle to hit day 30 at the start of my PCT and i am extremely happy with the results, as i continue to add size and strength! :woohoo:
 
Aeternitatis said:
That's pretty straight forward. I'm looking for feedback, opinions, and experiences. If you've used it, tell us your results. If you haven't used it, why not? :D

thx, for starting this thread, just got my first bottle, wanting to try it out soon.........:head:
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lennoxchi said:
thx, for starting this thread, just got my first bottle, wanting to try it out soon.........:head:
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Sweet! Keep in mind that a full cycle is 2 bottles. Best results are gained from using for 50 days straight then taking a 50 day break. :woohoo:
 
Aeternitatis said:
Sweet! Keep in mind that a full cycle is 2 bottles. Best results are gained from using for 50 days straight then taking a 50 day break. :woohoo:
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I really liked X-Factor- I used it to cut last year- great for losing body fat!!
 
Could one use 4 bottles in 2 months to get better results?
 
I am yet to try XF.

2 reason's why I've been shying away:
1) 50 day cycle is gonna run me upwards of $88 when it's on sale. I could much more cost-efficiently run an designer steroids cycle.
2) I eat lots of fish.

Though I am pretty psyched about NP's X-factor in bulk. The research I've read on this stuff seems pretty solid, but currently it is cost-prohibitive.
 
djbombsquad said:
Could one use 4 bottles in 2 months to get better results?
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Well, 4 bottles in a 60 days span is a lot. Maybe you should try to use 1250 mg. a day for 60 days? This has been done a few times, and gives impressive results! On top of that, you would only need 3 bottles instead of 4.
 
thesinner said:
I am yet to try XF.

2 reason's why I've been shying away:
1) 50 day cycle is gonna run me upwards of $88 when it's on sale. I could much more cost-efficiently run an designer steroids cycle.
2) I eat lots of fish.

Though I am pretty psyched about NP's X-factor in bulk. The research I've read on this stuff seems pretty solid, but currently it is cost-prohibitive.
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Thing is: No PCT is needed. This is a really big plus. No need for Cycle Support etc... So all in all, it IS less for a full cycle :)
 
jjohn said:
Well, 4 bottles in a 60 days span is a lot. Maybe you should try to use 1250 mg. a day for 60 days? This has been done a few times, and gives impressive results! On top of that, you would only need 3 bottles instead of 4.
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After using I feel like my dead lift sand bench as well as ez curls went up on weights. I would for sure recommend it to people not on fish oil.
 
djbombsquad said:
The reason I say 2 months (8 weeks) is I do 8 weeks max-ot than I take a 1 week break. 8 weeks than 1 week break etc. If 3 bottles will be just as good as 4 bottles in 8 weeks than I will just use 3 but I have 4 bottles that needs to get put to use. Let me know your thoughts. Should I cut out certain vitamins as they are anti inflamatory such as vitamin E as a example?
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You should take a break between them, or else your receptors will adapt and it won't be as effective :nono: I would stick to 50 days on 80 off 50 on. Keep the E :)
 
jjohn said:
Thing is: No post cycle therapy is needed. This is a really big plus. No need for Cycle Support etc... So all in all, it IS less for a full cycle :)
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Cost efficiency is arguable; however, concept of no post cycle therapy has been one thing that makes XF appealing to me.
 
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how bad was the inflamation? i always wanted to try x factor but i have an arthritic back.would love to throw this in my pct.
 
iw1 said:
how bad was the inflamation? i always wanted to try x factor but i have an arthritic back.would love to throw this in my post cycle therapy.
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I would definetly stay away from this before talking to your doctor. Better be safe than sorry.
 
I was definitely interested but the factor of me dealing with keeping my lipids in check are keeping me far away from the X right now...
 
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