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Smont
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As much as I can, I'm definitely skipping things on days that I'm hurting but overall I'm getting a decent amount done. Like today would be a full body with heavy bench but I'm taking a few extra days rest for my shoulders. Il probably just do some cardio and a couple things for legs
MrKleen73
Legend
We are doing the same thing, just at different levels in the game. It's either "This is okay to push today so LFG!!!" or "This ain't ready, go easy, find something else or take a day off..."
Smont
Legend
Yep that's exactly how I feel. I'm actually contemplating putting all of my chest and shoulder work into absolute maintenance mode so it can let my shoulders recover and I can use that extra recovery ability for an extra deadlift day because I'm really loving deadlifts right now
MrKleen73
Legend
Sounds like a good idea to me. If DL's are going well and you are really enjoying them, then maybe now is the time to chase them.
Smont
Legend
Tomorrow is pull, if my shoulders up to it I wanna go for max rep deadlifts with 315, I think I can get 20 lol. I also work doubles every day this week tho and I'm low carb till Friday, probably not a great idea, but I'm itching to do it
MrKleen73
Legend
Give it hell!
Hyde
Legend
If you intend to pull twice per week, don’t do it - you don’t need much more total weekly volume even when you increase frequency, so a widowmaker is a good way to rip through your recovery budget.
Now if you weren’t married to pulling again sooner and this goal excites you more than ensuring you can get another productive pull session in sooner, do it! It will be a neat feat to have under your belt, and it’s good to do some exciting things in training sometimes.
Smont
Legend
Are you saying it's ok to pull twice, but not if 1 session is a Widowmaker type set? And yes, it just kinda excites me to go for a challenge like that. If I go ham like that tonight I probably wouldn't pull again for 5-7 days. I imagine my lower back will be pretty sore for a while too.
But I'm definitely interested in the challenge more than anything
MrKleen73
Legend
He has generally said DL once a week (if that), and add in other hinge accessories on other days if you want to.
Hyde
Legend
Yep you got it.
Smont
Legend
That's what I've been doing but I'm wanting to actually deadlift more often as a whole.
Lately I've been doing my regular deadlifts on Tuesday nights and then I've been doing trap bar deadlifts on a 3in platform on Saturday mornings
Smont
Legend
I know it's not feasible to deadlift heavy twice a week for an extended period of time especially on top of everything else that I do but my training volume is pretty low right now and I figure if I back off the bench press and a couple other heavy upper body exercises I'll have a lot more recovery ability.
I'd confidently say that my total workload per week right now is probably 25-35% of what it is when I'm grinding
I'd confidently say that my total workload per week right now is probably 25-35% of what it is when I'm grinding
Smont
Legend
Fuckin 19 reps, I really thought I got 20 but I also I think I was very close to failure, I might have been able to grind out a few more but I really thought I hit 20 and I stopped.
I had to hold some pads and work with some fighters for like the first 20 minutes of a class, I switched them over to a little bit of circuit training. After that I hit three sets of overhead dumbbell press into a bent over row into reverse lunges. I did that for sets of 10 reps each exercise to make one giant set. I kept the weight light and this was kind of like my full body warm up. Follow that up with four warm-up sets of deadlifts five reps each
315x19 deadlift
Couple sets of cable press downs and dumbbell curls and my night was over. I mean my night was pretty much over the second I finished those deadlifts
. I had to take a knee and spend about 10 minutes catching my breath
I had to hold some pads and work with some fighters for like the first 20 minutes of a class, I switched them over to a little bit of circuit training. After that I hit three sets of overhead dumbbell press into a bent over row into reverse lunges. I did that for sets of 10 reps each exercise to make one giant set. I kept the weight light and this was kind of like my full body warm up. Follow that up with four warm-up sets of deadlifts five reps each
315x19 deadlift
Couple sets of cable press downs and dumbbell curls and my night was over. I mean my night was pretty much over the second I finished those deadlifts
. I had to take a knee and spend about 10 minutes catching my breath
Smont
Legend
Took 1 cap of epitren which I think is 10mg epistane and 10mg trenavar (which if I'm not mistaken is an insignificant amount, not sure why it's dosed so low) and 25mg winny pre workout. I had like 18 caps of epitren left so Im gonna use that up and then bump winni to 50mg. I'm think about using 25mg of tren ace 3x week too. I was looking at all the oddball things I have kicking around and trying to come up with some kind of weird little leftover cycle that I can run for four or five weeks, (the first 3 leading up to vacation)
I was only taken a ml of test and a ml of NPP but I'm gonna do a quick switcharoo I think.
250 test e
150 EQ
After the epitren runs out ...
75 tren ace
50mg winni daily
25mg dbol for like 5-7 days before vacation
I'll probably run the Winni for 30 days total and drop the tren ace after 4 weeks which is going to be a one week overlap with the Winni.
Hopefully by that point I'll have all my ducks in a row and I will phase out all the toxic crap and just increase testosterone, hopefully add GH, if the GH is around.
I was only taken a ml of test and a ml of NPP but I'm gonna do a quick switcharoo I think.
250 test e
150 EQ
After the epitren runs out ...
75 tren ace
50mg winni daily
25mg dbol for like 5-7 days before vacation
I'll probably run the Winni for 30 days total and drop the tren ace after 4 weeks which is going to be a one week overlap with the Winni.
Hopefully by that point I'll have all my ducks in a row and I will phase out all the toxic crap and just increase testosterone, hopefully add GH, if the GH is around.
Dustin07
Legend
those macros are practically a protein shake lol, I need to find these!
the egg topper was a pro move-
Smont
Legend
I was out of breath but the set was really weird, at no point did the weight start to feel heavy. Even as my grip started giving towards the end it wasn't because the weight felt heavy it's like my grip hips and even my quads a little bit, like my upper quads, they all just started failing on me. My lower back, hips and upper legs were pretty pumped up. I deadlift with a fairly narrow stance. When I'm all lined up knees over toes and pull the little bit of slack out the bar I'm basically in a leg press position I use a lot of quads when I deadlift. I've never gone that high reps on deadlifts with any significant amount of weight and I definitely got a quad pump from it. But I felt like the combination of quads hips and my lower back all kind of being pumped up at the same time was making my body fail it was hard to straighten myself upright.A deadlift of 315 for 19 reps is impressive, and I bet you were out of breath after that. Glad you didn’t see stars and pass out.
Smont
Legend
The chicken patties have a odd egg like texture to them. Ground Chicken doesn't really get firm I guess because I noticed when I've made ground chicken meatballs they get that same fluffy odd texture. Adding the egg on top to get the egg flavor helped me with the texture a lot. I'm probably making these things sound worse than they are, they're not bad and I imagine if you cook them on the actual grill the texture would be better. I cooked them in a frying pan.
Smont
Legend
Today's breakfast
Three whole eggs, half a ring of turkey kielbasa, a quarter cup of cottage cheese, a slice of mild cheddar, a handful of spinach and a sprinkle of mozzarella on top. I also put a serving of hot chocolate mix in my coffee, don't know why I was just craving it and I didn't think till afterwards that I added a bunch of unnecessary carbs but whatever.
Three whole eggs, half a ring of turkey kielbasa, a quarter cup of cottage cheese, a slice of mild cheddar, a handful of spinach and a sprinkle of mozzarella on top. I also put a serving of hot chocolate mix in my coffee, don't know why I was just craving it and I didn't think till afterwards that I added a bunch of unnecessary carbs but whatever.
manifesto
Well-known member
Are you taking anything for prolactin/progesterone control? Or, is this dose low enough for you to not worry about it
Hyde
Legend
Gonna look for those at Aldi; I normally write off chicken patties due to carbs but those could be a great little keto treat when I want something more substantial than a shake but it’s not time for a high-fat meat meal.
Take 2 caps of the Epistane. 20mg minimum for it IMO, having used it a bunch. It actually gets better through 60mg. 80mg didn’t really improve noticeably from that.
Take 2 caps of the Epistane. 20mg minimum for it IMO, having used it a bunch. It actually gets better through 60mg. 80mg didn’t really improve noticeably from that.
Smont
Legend
I just got another 40 caps from my cousin
Smont
Legend
No, I actually don't usually take anything for that anymore, I just try to keep my estrogen in check. Last 3 times I ran tren ace I had zero issues. I did actually get prolactin gyno from trestolone, the only reason I know is cuz I actually lactated at one point
.But after listening to tons of coaching podcasts over the past few years, between Paul Barnett, todd Lee, dean st Martin , even the guys from think big. They all say the same thing, that they rarely see elevations in prolactin on people's blood work. I'm starting to think it's one of those things the internet has overdone fear for.
If I'm super worried I would have took a little bit of B6 for 2 weeks leading up to starting whatever I'm doing, but the last few times I used tren ace and NPP I didn't have any issues. NPP made me kinda depressed and really anxious last time. Tren doesn't even do that to me. Weird
Hyde
Legend
I got the Aldi chicken patties, but did the Mexi-Cali blend.
Air-fried them like it recommended and was pretty legit man. I think that’s the key - it gets them crispy on the outside with some grillmarks. That helps cover the texture of the inside being more like a fake egg white patty.
No it’s very real, I have to take a load of P5P or low dose of Caber (0.5mg weekly) to cum normally over the last 12 weeks I’ve been using the very low dose of deca and tren e. Because I am sensitive and mine raises a lot in the presence of moderate estrogen really even.
If I was more aggressive with my AI the prolactin would not be able to elevate so I wouldn’t need those, BUT then my joints would be so dry I couldn’t train effectively. Strength athletes need a decent amount of estrogen. And running Mast prevents gyno and dries things out some, but doesn’t actually lower estrogen, so it’s even worse in the context of promoting this scenario where estrogen can go high enough that prolactin can become an issue for those sensitive.
My stack is 270 test c, 200 mast e, 75 deca, 50 tren e now (plus orals and GH, which GH also definitely raises it for me). I have gotten prolactin gyno on left side a decade back from extended Mk677 use of all things, while otherwise natty for a long period.
It does. I get very strong this way from the recovery, but really like to get in the gym 4 days per week.
Air-fried them like it recommended and was pretty legit man. I think that’s the key - it gets them crispy on the outside with some grillmarks. That helps cover the texture of the inside being more like a fake egg white patty.
No, I actually don't usually take anything for that anymore, I just try to keep my estrogen in check. Last 3 times I ran tren ace I had zero issues. I did actually get prolactin gyno from trestolone, the only reason I know is cuz I actually lactated at one point
But after listening to tons of coaching podcasts over the past few years, between Paul Barnett, todd Lee, dean st Martin , even the guys from think big. They all say the same thing, that they rarely see elevations in prolactin on people's blood work. I'm starting to think it's one of those things the internet has overdone fear for.
If I'm super worried I would have took a little bit of B6 for 2 weeks leading up to starting whatever I'm doing, but the last few times I used tren ace and NPP I didn't have any issues. NPP made me kinda depressed and really anxious last time. Tren doesn't even do that to me. Weird
No it’s very real, I have to take a load of P5P or low dose of Caber (0.5mg weekly) to cum normally over the last 12 weeks I’ve been using the very low dose of deca and tren e. Because I am sensitive and mine raises a lot in the presence of moderate estrogen really even.
If I was more aggressive with my AI the prolactin would not be able to elevate so I wouldn’t need those, BUT then my joints would be so dry I couldn’t train effectively. Strength athletes need a decent amount of estrogen. And running Mast prevents gyno and dries things out some, but doesn’t actually lower estrogen, so it’s even worse in the context of promoting this scenario where estrogen can go high enough that prolactin can become an issue for those sensitive.
My stack is 270 test c, 200 mast e, 75 deca, 50 tren e now (plus orals and GH, which GH also definitely raises it for me). I have gotten prolactin gyno on left side a decade back from extended Mk677 use of all things, while otherwise natty for a long period.
It does. I get very strong this way from the recovery, but really like to get in the gym 4 days per week.
Smont
Legend
Oh I know it's real, but what I'm getting at is I don't think as many people are sensitive to it as we seem to think.
I also think you might be right on the air fryer having a crispy outside to that would definitely help a lot. I mean don't get me wrong it was edible as is but I think if it was crispy it would be a lot better.
As far as training goes I'm going to make an effort to get a fourth day in or maybe even try to squeeze in a night where I'm doing a little lifting with my cardio. I'm doing very little in the gym, but I'm definitely making my sets count
Hyde
Legend
Right, controlling estrogen is the main culprit to manage things on test/deca and the like. I am definitely particularly sensitive to 19-Nors, and I’m also lacking connective tissue in joints that many less experienced lifters still have lol.
I usually have 3 serious lifting days and an easier one. Something like a speed bench, or upper back bodybuilding day, etc. This lets me work out hard without pushing my nervous system and joints as much.
Smont
Legend
Been working crazy hours , some days 8am to 10pm, I also need crazy hungry from adding cardio. Increased my fluid intake by a extra half gallon per day as I don't believe I was drinking much more than a half gallon a day until about 5 days ago. So I'm up to a little over a gallon per day right now. That includes things like a diet Coke a coffee or a monster but my actual water is probably 3/4 of a gallon itself now.
For future reference maybe I need to keep my cardio high when bulking to keep my appetite up. Yeah I'm going to have to eat more but at least I'll be hungry.
Yesterday I didn't feel like my shoulder would handle much of anything without paying but also it seems to be getting better. I guess I'm more afraid to re-aggravate it and make it worse as it's definitely not completely healed. I'm thinking I got some kind of a labrum strain because it's only pulling that hurts directly. But pushing it feels sore. The pains also pretty deep inside and I'm pretty sure it's a strained labrum or something it can't be torn or completely torn at least because I have way too much strength and mobility it just hurts.
So basically I ended up doing some rotator cuff exercises, a bunch of light side lateral raises, I did some incline presses but didn't go above 70 lb dumbbells and I finished off with a conditioning circuit. Today after work I did 6 rounds on the heavy bag, I didn't throw anything hard with the bad shoulder but kept a good pace, 10min on the elliptical with high resistance and a 10min cool down.
Hopefully tomorrow I'm good to deadlift and as long as I keep treating every rep like its own individual one and do nothing touch and Go it seems to not bother the shoulder still so that's my go-to exercise now. I'm going to have to wing all the accessory work tomorrow by just doing whatever feels good.
I've also been sóoo hungry that I've been digging into my meals the second I finish making them and forgetting to take pictures, but I've continued to keep my carbs way lower than normal this week and I thought today's cardio session to end the week would be a good way to burn off the last of the glycogen before I refeed.
Just had a 16oz porterhouse off the grill and I picked up a black magic sushi roll, up next I'm gonna make a couple turkey sandwiches on sourdough with mustard and some sweet potato fries with ketchup.
After that we're going for some frosted shredded wheat cereal and a banana.
I'm down 5lbs this week, il see what my fasted weight is looking is like in the morning and decide what I'm going to do from there. I'm hoping to get some pop from the epistane and the carbs cus my cruise with pretty much no training that led up to this didn't give me the best start. I been avoiding the two places I always take my progress pics in because I don't wanna see the difference
For future reference maybe I need to keep my cardio high when bulking to keep my appetite up. Yeah I'm going to have to eat more but at least I'll be hungry.
Yesterday I didn't feel like my shoulder would handle much of anything without paying but also it seems to be getting better. I guess I'm more afraid to re-aggravate it and make it worse as it's definitely not completely healed. I'm thinking I got some kind of a labrum strain because it's only pulling that hurts directly. But pushing it feels sore. The pains also pretty deep inside and I'm pretty sure it's a strained labrum or something it can't be torn or completely torn at least because I have way too much strength and mobility it just hurts.
So basically I ended up doing some rotator cuff exercises, a bunch of light side lateral raises, I did some incline presses but didn't go above 70 lb dumbbells and I finished off with a conditioning circuit. Today after work I did 6 rounds on the heavy bag, I didn't throw anything hard with the bad shoulder but kept a good pace, 10min on the elliptical with high resistance and a 10min cool down.
Hopefully tomorrow I'm good to deadlift and as long as I keep treating every rep like its own individual one and do nothing touch and Go it seems to not bother the shoulder still so that's my go-to exercise now. I'm going to have to wing all the accessory work tomorrow by just doing whatever feels good.
I've also been sóoo hungry that I've been digging into my meals the second I finish making them and forgetting to take pictures, but I've continued to keep my carbs way lower than normal this week and I thought today's cardio session to end the week would be a good way to burn off the last of the glycogen before I refeed.
Just had a 16oz porterhouse off the grill and I picked up a black magic sushi roll, up next I'm gonna make a couple turkey sandwiches on sourdough with mustard and some sweet potato fries with ketchup.
After that we're going for some frosted shredded wheat cereal and a banana.
I'm down 5lbs this week, il see what my fasted weight is looking is like in the morning and decide what I'm going to do from there. I'm hoping to get some pop from the epistane and the carbs cus my cruise with pretty much no training that led up to this didn't give me the best start. I been avoiding the two places I always take my progress pics in because I don't wanna see the difference
Hyde
Legend
First time I ever pushed into the 260s, I was trying to do 2-3 10-minute walks after meals most days. I think this helped A LOT with gut motility and being hungry enough to eat again sooner. I also found this to work last meet for the refeed day & know people who swear by it. I will be doing it tomorrow some after weighins.
What’s a black magic sushi roll have in it?
Smont
Legend
I guess there's different variations of it, mine was basically a spicy tuna roll topped with avocado, spicy Mayo and eel sauce
Hyde
Legend
I do enjoy all of those things!
I have been working up the courage to try a Makku-rito. Basically a huge roll the thickness of a burrito.
Smont
Legend
To me that sounds awesome, but at the same time, it also sounds like too much of a good thing lol. Sometimes with stuff like that I get nervous that it might turn me off from the things that I love.
Like back in the day my cousin's restaurant used to have this pork belly appetizer that I absolutely loved, the appetizer was a quarter pound of slow cooked pork belly with a shredded vinegar cabbage on top and a white balsamic mustard. So my cousin bet me I couldn't eat a whole pound of it in one sitting, so of course I bet him I could eat 2 lb of it in one sitting lol.
1 and 3/4 lb later, with about 2 minutes left on the 20 minute timer I had to tap out, I had a little over 12,000 calories in 18 minutes and I slugged a couple of fireballs in between bites (this was when I was still drinking) left the restaurant and went to a cookout and started feeling really sick and as I'm walking in my house I projectile vomited what looked like pure fat. I felt so horribly sick for days, the very next day I had a family party to go to and it was a f****** pig roast and I couldn't even look at the pig. I couldn't eat the pork belly appetizer for a whole year
MrKleen73
Legend
Well that was an eating challenge, and honestly... just a bad decision. LOL I made the mistake of having way to many pork rinds at once when I was in keto, and had the same experience. I am sure nowhere near the amount of fat you got. Of course the high fat content shut your sphincter going into your intestines as high fat meals do to slow down the digestion, so you just had 2 lbs of fat sitting in your gut only trickling into the intestines due to the high fat content. That's a recipe for vomiting and oily runny bowels for a few days.To me that sounds awesome, but at the same time, it also sounds like too much of a good thing lol. Sometimes with stuff like that I get nervous that it might turn me off from the things that I love.
Like back in the day my cousin's restaurant used to have this pork belly appetizer that I absolutely loved, the appetizer was a quarter pound of slow cooked pork belly with a shredded vinegar cabbage on top and a white balsamic mustard. So my cousin bet me I couldn't eat a whole pound of it in one sitting, so of course I bet him I could eat 2 lb of it in one sitting lol.
1 and 3/4 lb later, with about 2 minutes left on the 20 minute timer I had to tap out, I had a little over 12,000 calories in 18 minutes and I slugged a couple of fireballs in between bites (this was when I was still drinking) left the restaurant and went to a cookout and started feeling really sick and as I'm walking in my house I projectile vomited what looked like pure fat. I felt so horribly sick for days, the very next day I had a family party to go to and it was a f****** pig roast and I couldn't even look at the pig. I couldn't eat the pork belly appetizer for a whole year
I would not expect that to happen again, especially over a burrito sized portion of sushi. Also, it doesn't HAVE to be finished if you start to get too full. Only reason to do that is a major bulk/refeed, or an eating challenge. However even if you finished it the fat content would likely not be enough to close that sphincter that much compared to 1.75lbs of pork belly. I am getting nauseous just thinking about that! Your PTSD for that is justifiable!
Smont
Legend
For years at my cousin's restaurant we would come up with all kinds of eating challenges but they were normally kind of reasonable, this one scarred me for a long time lol
Smont
Legend
Woke up early did some light cardio and had some Greek yogurt with granola bananas and honey. I hit the gym and spent about 20 to 30 minutes warming up really good, I spent another 30 minutes doing deadlifts and after that I did a couple sets of bent over rows and high cable Rose in the 15 to 20 rep range so I wasn't using any significant amount of weight.
I did notice deadlifting today that the weight seemed very heavy and that my grip was not nearly as good as it usually is so I think I'm still a little taxed from Tuesday. After the gym I got called into work and didn't get that great of a post-workout meal so I got a lot of eating and a lot of carbohydrates to consume tonight through tomorrow night.
I'll do my first official weigh-in tomorrow morning and I'm going to call this a 3-week mini cut from here out because I've got 24 days until I leave
I did notice deadlifting today that the weight seemed very heavy and that my grip was not nearly as good as it usually is so I think I'm still a little taxed from Tuesday. After the gym I got called into work and didn't get that great of a post-workout meal so I got a lot of eating and a lot of carbohydrates to consume tonight through tomorrow night.
I'll do my first official weigh-in tomorrow morning and I'm going to call this a 3-week mini cut from here out because I've got 24 days until I leave