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FORMERON 2024

Just over 4 weeks in at 8-10 pumps a day and I weighed myself today and I'm up another 2-3lb on the scale after the 4lb gain last time. So that's 6-7lb in just over 4 weeks! In the mirror I am definitely looking way bigger and everyone keeps commenting on how much I've grown. What's crazy is that I'm still focusing on a cut/recomp and am always in a mild deficit of around 200-500 cals a day but sometimes much more if I forget to eat enough. Visually at the same time I'm gaining muscle I am also losing a lot of fat and the measuring tape confirms this.

I did start to have some high estrogen symptoms so I take one letrone about every other day and it clears them up. I enjoy the lubricated joint feeling of the higher estrogen levels so I try to balance it so it stays just around the level before I start to get soreness in the nipple area.

This stuff has been really amazing! Looking forward to the next couple months. The first month has been great!
 
thegroosh said:
Just over 4 weeks in at 8-10 pumps a day and I weighed myself today and I'm up another 2-3lb on the scale after the 4lb gain last time. So that's 6-7lb in just over 4 weeks! In the mirror I am definitely looking way bigger and everyone keeps commenting on how much I've grown. What's crazy is that I'm still focusing on a cut/recomp and am always in a mild deficit of around 200-500 cals a day but sometimes much more if I forget to eat enough. Visually at the same time I'm gaining muscle I am also losing a lot of fat and the measuring tape confirms this.

I did start to have some high estrogen symptoms so I take one letrone about every other day and it clears them up. I enjoy the lubricated joint feeling of the higher estrogen levels so I try to balance it so it stays just around the level before I start to get soreness in the nipple area.

This stuff has been really amazing! Looking forward to the next couple months. The first month has been great!
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Awesome feed back! Can’t wait to hear how the next couple months go for you.
 
thegroosh said:
Just over 4 weeks in at 8-10 pumps a day and I weighed myself today and I'm up another 2-3lb on the scale after the 4lb gain last time. So that's 6-7lb in just over 4 weeks! In the mirror I am definitely looking way bigger and everyone keeps commenting on how much I've grown. What's crazy is that I'm still focusing on a cut/recomp and am always in a mild deficit of around 200-500 cals a day but sometimes much more if I forget to eat enough. Visually at the same time I'm gaining muscle I am also losing a lot of fat and the measuring tape confirms this.

I did start to have some high estrogen symptoms so I take one letrone about every other day and it clears them up. I enjoy the lubricated joint feeling of the higher estrogen levels so I try to balance it so it stays just around the level before I start to get soreness in the nipple area.

This stuff has been really amazing! Looking forward to the next couple months. The first month has been great!
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What was your starting weight
 
thegroosh said:
Just over 4 weeks in at 8-10 pumps a day and I weighed myself today and I'm up another 2-3lb on the scale after the 4lb gain last time. So that's 6-7lb in just over 4 weeks! In the mirror I am definitely looking way bigger and everyone keeps commenting on how much I've grown. What's crazy is that I'm still focusing on a cut/recomp and am always in a mild deficit of around 200-500 cals a day but sometimes much more if I forget to eat enough. Visually at the same time I'm gaining muscle I am also losing a lot of fat and the measuring tape confirms this.

I did start to have some high estrogen symptoms so I take one letrone about every other day and it clears them up. I enjoy the lubricated joint feeling of the higher estrogen levels so I try to balance it so it stays just around the level before I start to get soreness in the nipple area.

This stuff has been really amazing! Looking forward to the next couple months. The first month has been great!
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I have a bit of a hard time finding space for the 3.5 pumps I tend to use preworkout so finding space for 5 pumps at a time would be challenging to say the least.
 
max silver said:
I have a bit of a hard time finding space for the 3.5 pumps I tend to use preworkout so finding space for 5 pumps at a time would be challenging to say the least.
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I like two do one pump on each shoulder, one on each pec, and one on my abs just underneath my pecs.
 
I’m currently doing 5 x pumps twice daily.

1 pump on each front/side/back delts + triceps
1 pump on each pec + biceps
1 pump on stomach.

Have been doing this for a couple of weeks now. Difference between 6 and 10 pumps is an extreme libido boost, downstairs member is always full and ready to go. Weight gain has been very easy and joints are very smooth. Still haven’t needed to add any e2 control but definitely a bit more watery which I’m okay with. Will be cutting back down to 6 pumps after 2-3 more weeks and will enter a maintenance phase followed by a cut
 
Joshlm69 said:
I’m currently doing 5 x pumps twice daily.

1 pump on each front/side/back delts + triceps
1 pump on each pec + biceps
1 pump on stomach.

Have been doing this for a couple of weeks now. Difference between 6 and 10 pumps is an extreme libido boost, downstairs member is always full and ready to go. Weight gain has been very easy and joints are very smooth. Still haven’t needed to add any e2 control but definitely a bit more watery which I’m okay with. Will be cutting back down to 6 pumps after 2-3 more weeks and will enter a maintenance phase followed by a cut
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It sounds like formeron is one of the best bulking supplements out there.
 
Shadowblaze said:
It sounds like formeron is one of the best bulking supplements out there.
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Its surprising how well the Ecdysteroids work topically. Plus the Atriplex has some novel ecdysteroid Im sure of it. I just dont know what it is. But those and the DHEA seem to work really well together.
 
Shadowblaze said:
It sounds like formeron is one of the best bulking supplements out there.
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I've enjoyed my bulk a lot. Formeron is far from the only thing I'm using at present as I have a very comprehensive stack but I do believe it's the heaviest hitter. I'm up about 17-18 pounds at present after 11 weeks of use. I'm getting to be a little more on the pleasantly plump side than I prefer so I'm going to continue using Formeron during my upcoming cut which begins next week.

I was a little worried about this product potentially flaring up my pre-existing gyno but I've been able to keep this completely at bay with a single capsule of Letrone per day.
 
max silver said:
I've enjoyed my bulk a lot. Formeron is far from the only thing I'm using at present as I have a very comprehensive stack but I do believe it's the heaviest hitter. I'm up about 17-18 pounds at present after 11 weeks of use. I'm getting to be a little more on the pleasantly plump side than I prefer so I'm going to continue using Formeron during my upcoming cut which begins next week.

I was a little worried about this product potentially flaring up my pre-existing gyno but I've been able to keep this completely at bay with a single capsule of Letrone per day.
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If you were to guess how many pounds formeron helped you gain more so in terms of muscle how much do you think it helped? I reckon it helped you add a few pounds of mainly muscle you wouldn’t have gained without using formeron.
 
Shadowblaze said:
If you were to guess how many pounds formeron helped you gain more so in terms of muscle how much do you think it helped? I reckon it helped you add a few pounds of mainly muscle you wouldn’t have gained without using formeron.
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That's not something I can really know to any degree of certainty given how many different products I was taking concurrently.
 
I'm not very knowledgeable on AIs and all that. I'm wondering if 25mg arimistane would be a good choice for a 3 months formeron run to keep potential high estrogenic sides away.
Hoping it is so I can just buy one bottle and save some money

Very hyped to try formeron. Would be my first BLR product
 
Mx1x1 said:
I'm not very knowledgeable on AIs and all that. I'm wondering if 25mg arimistane would be a good choice for a 3 months formeron run to keep potential high estrogenic sides away.
Hoping it is so I can just buy one bottle and save some money

Very hyped to try formeron. Would be my first BLR product
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Arimistane is more for cortisol, IMO. I don't think he does much for estrogen. You could probably get by with something OTC like Letrone. You don't want to crush estrogen anyways. You need some to make gainz.
 
BigGame84 said:
Arimistane is more for cortisol, IMO. I don't think he does much for estrogen. You could probably get by with something OTC like Letrone. You don't want to crush estrogen anyways. You need some to make gainz.
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Thank you, I checked if the only shop I can order from has Letrone but it's out of stock sadly (from EU. I don't want to pay extra to import)

If I could run formeron without additions, I would love to but it seems most users experience estro-sides
 
Mx1x1 said:
Thank you, I checked if the only shop I can order from has Letrone but it's out of stock sadly (from EU. I don't want to pay extra to import)

If I could run formeron without additions, I would love to but it seems most users experience estro-sides
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Most people can run it without an AI. It might get a little estrogenic but estrogen is anabolic and cardio protective. I used to run up to 1500mg test weekly without an AI.
Strangely now that I dont run cycles even 200mg will get my estrogen over 90.
At any rate I would think you would be fine without an AI. Only a small percentage need it.
 
brundel said:
Most people can run it without an AI. It might get a little estrogenic but estrogen is anabolic and cardio protective. I used to run up to 1500mg test weekly without an AI.
Strangely now that I dont run cycles even 200mg will get my estrogen over 90.
At any rate I would think you would be fine without an AI. Only a small percentage need it.
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Thank you, I ordered 3 bottles

Hope it'll treat me well and add some good mass on my frame (bulking rn). Very hyped
 
My bottles arrived and even tho I'm still a little ill, I started my run

According to my research the ingredients are beneficial when ill, so I jumped right in. I dosed 6 pumps at once because it's late here. Will continue with 3/3

I'm already impressed with how fast it dries. It took 1-2 minutes max to dry and it's easy to spread. Also smells nice

And I love the design of the bottle

How long can this be run? If it treats me well, I'd love to increase the run to 6 months
 
Mx1x1 said:
My bottles arrived and even tho I'm still a little ill, I started my run

According to my research the ingredients are beneficial when ill, so I jumped right in. I dosed 6 pumps at once because it's late here. Will continue with 3/3

I'm already impressed with how fast it dries. It took 1-2 minutes max to dry and it's easy to spread. Also smells nice

And I love the design of the bottle

How long can this be run? If it treats me well, I'd love to increase the run to 6 months
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I havnt heard of any suppression but its possible with DHEA. Unless you are on TRT in which case it really doesnt matter ;)
 
I love this stuff

It applies easily, dries fast and doesn't irritate my skin when applying on the same spots for weeks

Gives me nice aggression, nice fullness, I managed to push a little more weight from the start when I got back from my 2 week illness, huge confidence boost, great mood+energy and I feel like I'm getting drier. I can see a vain on my chest I've never seen before

No unusual weight gain yet as some experienced. No water bloat or any sides at all

The strongest test boost I ever experienced from supps

Sad news tho: Looks like I have to end/pause the run for a week in less than 2 weeks. So I only ran it for a month with some time during illness.
My gf surprised me with a vacation in a so far unnamed EU county and I read DHEA can be problematic to take with you on a flight anywhere in EU. EU to EU flight.
Not sure if it's really that risky to take it with me but if I have to pause, I'll order 2 more bottles to make up for the not perfectly used first month
 
We will be having a big sale coming relatively soon. Our Black Friday will be starting early.
 
brundel said:
I would approach this with some caution as we dont know if a SERM will prevent binding of the ecdysteroids
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Are there any updates available for this topic? I'm considering different TRT options including enclomiphene and would like to know if Formeron is likely to still be effective while using a SERM.
 
max silver said:
Are there any updates available for this topic? I'm considering different TRT options including enclomiphene and would like to know if Formeron is likely to still be effective while using a SERM.
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It’s been advised to not use it with any SERMs, including natural herbs that act as serms
 
max silver said:
Are there any updates available for this topic? I'm considering different TRT options including enclomiphene and would like to know if Formeron is likely to still be effective while using a SERM.
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Honestly I dont know for sure but I would advise against it as a safety precaution.
I do know someone who was using Enclomiphene who still had pretty solid results though.
There are other ingredients and we dont know if this will stop the Ecdysterones from working or not.
Generally I would say dont mix them but Ive seen evidence itll work anyways.
 
brundel said:
Honestly I dont know for sure but I would advise against it as a safety precaution.
I do know someone who was using Enclomiphene who still had pretty solid results though.
There are other ingredients and we dont know if this will stop the Ecdysterones from working or not.
Generally I would say dont mix them but Ive seen evidence itll work anyways.
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I had an interesting discussion using CHATGPT that suggested that Formeron and Enclomiphene would likely be very effective together. It suggested that enclomiphene primarily binds through the ER alpha receptor where TEAD/HE20 show minimal binding activity. It suggested that most TEAD/HE20 ER binding occurs through the ER beta receptor and that enclomiphene binding through this receptor is relatively weak. It pulled up a research paper that suggested that only 10-20% of the effects of these ecdysterones are mediated through the estrogen beta receptor and the remaining 80-90% of their effectiveness occurs through the PI3K/Akt → mTOR pathway. It suggests there is likely to only be mild competition for binding to the ER beta receptor between enclomiphene and TEAD/HE20 and as such there would most likely be a small if not imperceptible reduction in overall effectiveness.

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Has anyone stacked formeron with a dhea PH or var ? I just picked up a few bottle and I’m considering adding some kind of oral.
 
DHEA is already in there.
PH or var would be awesome. More DHEA might cause alot of estrogenic sides but if you had an AI it might be ok.
 
my 2 bottles came in yesterday evening
and first thing i did was put on 3 pumps.

so excited to finally try this out

the gel is clear, smells nice, and dries so quickly. when i was applying it there was a cooling sensation to the area of application as well

current stats:
6’2’’
175lbs
 

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brundel said:
DHEA is already in there.
PH or var would be awesome. More DHEA might cause alot of estrogenic sides but if you had an AI it might be ok.
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I agree there is already more than enough DHEA in Formeron. I had bloodwork performed at a local men's health clinic to see if I was a good candidate for TRT and after 6+ months of continuous Formeron use my DHEAS level was 71 umol/L compared to a reference range of 1.2-11.6 umol/L. It's too bad I didn't have testing performed prior to my Formeron run to obtain a baseline for myself but this is the first time I've directly taken DHEA in supplement form for an extended period of time.
 
KlausCoin said:
my 2 bottles came in yesterday evening
and first thing i did was put on 3 pumps.

so excited to finally try this out

the gel is clear, smells nice, and dries so quickly. when i was applying it there was a cooling sensation to the area of application as well

current stats:
6’2’’
175lbs
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Any updates?
 
HTGduck said:
Any updates?
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2-Week Formeron Update (Training for Strength + Athleticism)
Dec 17, 2025





dropping a quick 2-week update on my run with Formeron (solo) — dosing 3 pumps AM / 2–3 pumps PM.

Training Context:


I’m currently in a winter mass-building block that blends old-school bodybuilding with athletic performance. Think Boyd Epley Cornhuskers meets golden era hypertrophy — lots of heavy squats, OHP, hang cleans, RDLs, and climbing + snowboarding on the weekends. Strength and explosiveness are the focus, while keeping things aesthetic and mobile with accessories.

Anecdotal Notes:
  • The gel is clear, dries quick, no residue — super convenient for AM/PM application.
  • Joints feel noticeably better — elbows and knees are smooth on compound lifts and long climbing sessions.
  • Libido is SO up and so is general mental assertiveness/confidence — very real effects.
  • Estrogen is active — I’m prone to it, and I’ve had a few emotional moments- i teared up multiple times to the latest knives out film + and some mild puffiness in the nips.
    • I’m managing it with Eradicate-E from Muscle Addiction (25mg arimistane, 1–2 caps as needed).
  • Waist is half a belt notch tighter, despite a thin water layer on the lower abs — likely due to E2 fluctuations.
  • Weight is stable at 174, but I’m seeing more fullness in shoulders, traps, and upper back, which is wild for just 2 weeks in.
Final Thought:


Super pumped to see what this stuff feels like once it fully kicks in. If the joint relief and alpha vibe hold steady while strength keeps climbing, I’m in for a fun winter bulk and may extend to 3 months

Happy to log more updates later.
 
Would you guys see Formeron as a useful tool to recomp? I've not lost any size, and more so looking to kick things on a little PLUS any additional cognitive benefits of the DHEA would be good too.

Feeling the age related decline in the body, before I head down the TRT route was going to try this.

I have some TD 3ad - could I run these 2 together? Previously felt BP climb on 3ad solo - would Formeron help with this?


Age - 38
Weight - 107kg / 227lbs
Height - 6ft 1
Training - Consistently 3 days/week
Diet - In check
 
KlausCoin said:
2-Week Formeron Update (Training for Strength + Athleticism)
Dec 17, 2025





dropping a quick 2-week update on my run with Formeron (solo) — dosing 3 pumps AM / 2–3 pumps PM.

Training Context:


I’m currently in a winter mass-building block that blends old-school bodybuilding with athletic performance. Think Boyd Epley Cornhuskers meets golden era hypertrophy — lots of heavy squats, OHP, hang cleans, RDLs, and climbing + snowboarding on the weekends. Strength and explosiveness are the focus, while keeping things aesthetic and mobile with accessories.

Anecdotal Notes:
  • The gel is clear, dries quick, no residue — super convenient for AM/PM application.
  • Joints feel noticeably better — elbows and knees are smooth on compound lifts and long climbing sessions.
  • Libido is SO up and so is general mental assertiveness/confidence — very real effects.
  • Estrogen is active — I’m prone to it, and I’ve had a few emotional moments- i teared up multiple times to the latest knives out film + and some mild puffiness in the nips.
    • I’m managing it with Eradicate-E from Muscle Addiction (25mg arimistane, 1–2 caps as needed).
  • Waist is half a belt notch tighter, despite a thin water layer on the lower abs — likely due to E2 fluctuations.
  • Weight is stable at 174, but I’m seeing more fullness in shoulders, traps, and upper back, which is wild for just 2 weeks in.
Final Thought:


Super pumped to see what this stuff feels like once it fully kicks in. If the joint relief and alpha vibe hold steady while strength keeps climbing, I’m in for a fun winter bulk and may extend to 3 months

Happy to log more updates later.
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Formeron – 1 Month Update (solo)


What’s up AM crew — checking in with a 1-month update on Formeron from Black Lion Research.


I’m officially finishing up my first bottle and feeling great. Strength continues to climb across all lifts, and now that I’ve dialed in my macros, I’m sitting at 177.5 lbs, up from ~174 at the start of the run. Muscles feel full, especially in the shoulders, traps, and back, and recovery has been fast even on intense days. Shirts are getting tight up top.



💥 Quick highlight: I did a 4-day men’s roadtrip to Utah with heavy boarding at Brighton and Park City (8–13 runs/day) and came back feeling strong — no joint flare-ups and minimal DOMS. Went right back to the gym the day after driving 8 hours and picked up right where i left off.



Application has been smooth the whole way through. No clumping or irritation, just the standard tiny bit of buildup in the pump nozzle, like you’d get with lotion bottles — super easy to clean and doesn’t affect dosing.





Current Protocol:
  • I’ve found 3–4 pumps works well on rest or light days.
  • 6–7 pumps on lifting / climbing / snowboarding days is where performance really shines.
  • On days where I only applied 3 pumps AM and forgot PM, I had zero estrogen-related sides.
  • At 6+ pumps consistently, I can feel mild estrogen activity (puffy nips), which I manage easily and predictably.



I’m genuinely impressed and excited to start bottle #2 immediately. Feels like I’m hitting my stride.
 
First post here on the forums.

I see a few posts talking about estrogen sides while running Formeron. Doesn't have AI,s in it as well? I saw someone run Exotherm with Formeron to combat estrogen. Is Exotherm a stronger AI?

Thanks in advance.
 
ConcussionKing said:
First post here on the forums.

I see a few posts talking about estrogen sides while running Formeron. Doesn't have AI,s in it as well? I saw someone run Exotherm with Formeron to combat estrogen. Is Exotherm a stronger AI?

Thanks in advance.
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There is no AI in formeron.
 
botk1161 said:
There is no AI in formeron.
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I'm a little confused. This is from BLR's site:

ECDYSTEROIDS are anabolic compounds that have been shown to increase muscle mass, strength and performance but their oral bioavailability is poor. Using our new transdermal carrier, Formeron delivers these compounds as well as antiestrogenic agents to deliver one of the most powerful legal muscle building products available anywhere.

THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS ANTI ESTROGENIC INGREDIENTS AND IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR WOMEN.

So is this incorrect?
 
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ConcussionKing said:
I'm a little confused. This is from BLR's site:

ECDYSTEROIDS are anabolic compounds that have been shown to increase muscle mass, strength and performance but their oral bioavailability is poor. Using our new transdermal carrier, Formeron delivers these compounds as well as antiestrogenic agents to deliver one of the most powerful legal muscle building products available anywhere.

THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS ANTI ESTROGENIC INGREDIENTS AND IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR WOMEN.

So this incorrect?
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It contains the atractolydes, which are anti estrogenic,
 
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