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It could be a focus driven thing for the guy. Your sons #'s are great tho. 225/400 and 16 years old. That impressive to me. Very. At one point in time I was very bench press focused and I'm sure as you all know I always somehow get dragged back in and hurt myself over and over again but I spent double or triple the amount of time bench pressing as I did squatting and my numbers told the tail. 353 bench and 415 squat lol. Those numbers are way too close together. When I benched 370 I don't think I squatted one time for like 3 months leading up to the bench press contest. I bet you I could barely do 400 at that time.
The fact that I need to work hard to keep my squats over my bench is pretty telling, lol. my bests are 305/365/485. When I spent a year+ focused on just my deads (broke 5 yr old PR at 450, then kept going until I pulled 500 from rack and 485 from ground) my legs atrophied like crazy. it was the following spring when I wore shorts to the gym for the first time in a long time that I noticed how much my legs shrank, LOL! so I brought back squats and i can see my quads through my lifting pants now so I'm happy that I've put that size back on.

Tell your son to give me a squat routine please 😂

They were running a percentage based program at school but I never did catch the name of it. it was a lot of 4x6's etc and most of the training was appropriately around 65-80% but it was only one a time a week. so 2-4 times per month He would also have a squat session with me where we would hit heavy singles. I actually think at his age and experience level (1 year of squats almost) that this sorta modified texas method was a solid approach for him. he definitely benefits from more than 1 session per week on squats (and bench) but because of the way the high school lifting program worked they usually had:

cardio day
bench day
squats day
power clean day
dealers choice day (or make up day if you missed one of the prior 4)

so it's a good layout, but he's at that age where he could be doing more volume IMO. he's still a newbie lifter with his eyes on the high school record (425 to 475 depending on weight class) whos probably never going to have better recovery than he does now...
 
Chad Waterbury had a good power build program that incorporated 4 x 6 with his 10 x 3 program. The 10 x 3 were for the big 3 bench, squat and deadlift, and any accessory work was 4 x 6. You start at 70 % of your 1rm and whenever you hit the goal on the last set you add 5 lbs the next week. If you didn’t hit the last set, weight stayed the same for the following week. It was very effective at building muscle and strength. You build for 12 weeks, then de-load for one week then start a new 12 week cycle.
 
Chad Waterbury had a good power build program that incorporated 4 x 6 with his 10 x 3 program. The 10 x 3 were for the big 3 bench, squat and deadlift, and any accessory work was 4 x 6. You start at 70 % of your 1rm and whenever you hit the goal on the last set you add 5 lbs the next week. If you didn’t hit the last set weight stayed the same for the following week. It was very effective at building muscle and strength. You build for 12 weeks, then de-load for one week then start a new 12 week cycle.
I like that, pretty simple although man a 10x3 would be time consuming unless I ran it as an EMOTM lol. I do that a lot with banded bench as an EMOTM since it's closer to 50%. I think Dave Tate had it listed as every 45 seconds on the last conjugate spreadsheet I used.
 
The fact that I need to work hard to keep my squats over my bench is pretty telling, lol. my bests are 305/365/485. When I spent a year+ focused on just my deads (broke 5 yr old PR at 450, then kept going until I pulled 500 from rack and 485 from ground) my legs atrophied like crazy. it was the following spring when I wore shorts to the gym for the first time in a long time that I noticed how much my legs shrank, LOL! so I brought back squats and i can see my quads through my lifting pants now so I'm happy that I've put that size back on.



They were running a percentage based program at school but I never did catch the name of it. it was a lot of 4x6's etc and most of the training was appropriately around 65-80% but it was only one a time a week. so 2-4 times per month He would also have a squat session with me where we would hit heavy singles. I actually think at his age and experience level (1 year of squats almost) that this sorta modified texas method was a solid approach for him. he definitely benefits from more than 1 session per week on squats (and bench) but because of the way the high school lifting program worked they usually had:

cardio day
bench day
squats day
power clean day
dealers choice day (or make up day if you missed one of the prior 4)

so it's a good layout, but he's at that age where he could be doing more volume IMO. he's still a newbie lifter with his eyes on the high school record (425 to 475 depending on weight class) whos probably never going to have better recovery than he does now...
Funny enough, my greatest strength gains in a short period of time were obviously back in the beginning when I was first getting started but my full body routine had me doing everything for 3 to 4 sets of six reps. Six reps for me was like the magic number in between size and strength for a long time. Nowadays six reps is hard for me on most exercises and the reason why is because the weight is still heavy but the muscular endurance that I have for that weight makes it very taxing I don't know if I'm saying this correctly three sets of six where I'm damn near close to failure on my six rep is just so much harder for me than three sets of 10 when I'm the same distance away from failure. If I did four heavy sets of six on the deadlift or squat and I was getting right around failure on every set it would one take me at least a half an hour to 40 minutes to finish my squats and deadlifts and two I would be zapped afterwards I would do a ton more exercises but the meat and potatoes is finished.

I'm running on very little sleep right now so I apologize if whatever I'm saying sounds ridiculous 😂
 
I did the old school 3 day full body, one exercise for each body part, one warm-up set of 10 three working sets of six and after I hit each major muscle group I might spin back around and do something for arms or maybe a second chest or leg exercise.

I loved training like that for a long time. I just can't handle three heavy sets of six on every single exercise three times a week anymore
 
I like that, pretty simple although man a 10x3 would be time consuming unless I ran it as an EMOTM lol. I do that a lot with banded bench as an EMOTM since it's closer to 50%. I think Dave Tate had it listed as every 45 seconds on the last conjugate spreadsheet I used.
Yeah rest was 1-2 minutes between sets on 10 x 3 and 1 minute on 4 x 6. Actually I really enjoyed that workout the times I’ve ran it.
 
Funny enough, my greatest strength gains in a short period of time were obviously back in the beginning when I was first getting started but my full body routine had me doing everything for 3 to 4 sets of six reps. Six reps for me was like the magic number in between size and strength for a long time. Nowadays six reps is hard for me on most exercises and the reason why is because the weight is still heavy but the muscular endurance that I have for that weight makes it very taxing I don't know if I'm saying this correctly three sets of six where I'm damn near close to failure on my six rep is just so much harder for me than three sets of 10 when I'm the same distance away from failure. If I did four heavy sets of six on the deadlift or squat and I was getting right around failure on every set it would one take me at least a half an hour to 40 minutes to finish my squats and deadlifts and two I would be zapped afterwards I would do a ton more exercises but the meat and potatoes is finished.

I'm running on very little sleep right now so I apologize if whatever I'm saying sounds ridiculous 😂

You know whats funny is rep 7 has always been the grinder for me. This could be on a weight that 10 reps is my 0RIR, or it could be a weight that 20 reps is my 0RIR. but pushing through rep 7 has always been the grinder, even in my xfit days and now. I don't know if its mental or what but often times reps 9 and 10 are easier than 7 and 8 if I'm doing 10+ reps.
 
I like that, pretty simple although man a 10x3 would be time consuming unless I ran it as an EMOTM lol. I do that a lot with banded bench as an EMOTM since it's closer to 50%. I think Dave Tate had it listed as every 45 seconds on the last conjugate spreadsheet I used.
Well that 10x3 was pretty much all you did that day if I remember correctly. We had a guy doing this one on here a good while back. This may not be the same program but he would do the 10 sets of 3 one day, then the other days he did the accessories. So it ended up being a train each muscle group twice a week situation. I know there was a little more variation than that, but the 10 sets of 3 days were basically dedicated to the movement. It looked very effective, and I know he liked it. I just can't remember who it was that was running it for a while.
 
Well that 10x3 was pretty much all you did that day if I remember correctly. We had a guy doing this one on here a good while back. This may not be the same program but he would do the 10 sets of 3 one day, then the other days he did the accessories. So it ended up being a train each muscle group twice a week situation. I know there was a little more variation than that, but the 10 sets of 3 days were basically dedicated to the movement. It looked very effective, and I know he liked it. I just can't remember who it was that was running it for a while.
in that case, that would actually be a lot of fun I think...
 
Well, going by my mood and attitude I need to set some goals asap. Why? I'm getting bored and I'm finding myself snapping at ppl a bit and I'm really irritable out of nowhere. I'm itching to fight, but I don't want to spar, I want to fight. I'm only in a good mood when I'm in the gym or stoned on the couch eating junk (although I have swapped out all the junk in the house for healthier high protein alternatives) a PBJ and some Greek yogurt replaced the poptarts and Oreos lol. Work is busy and that is a bit stressful at times but I'm doing well so I shouldn't complain. Been

Other then that, I'm looking good, I'm lean and full dispite being lighter on the scale. My 195 looks bigger then my older 200-205pics. I don't need to bulk but if I start cutting it's not going to last long because I probably don't have more than like 5-8 pounds that I can lose comfortably. And it's not something I want to maintain anyways. I don't wanna blast anything hard either because I wanna save that for my Bulk

So..... With all the things I've mentioned, I only have 2 options.

Option 1. Dedicate this block to strength, lower body focused, eat enough to make progress but stay under 200, 205 tops. Mild cycle, probably test only, maybe pop some orals pre workout 2X week for my squat sessions.

Option #2. I cut off my left foot, maybe below the knee, get a peg leg and start training for the 2027 special Olympics in Chile. Im definitely a little retarded so I'm already qualified as a multi sport athlete.


What do you guys think 🤔
 
Well, going by my mood and attitude I need to set some goals asap. Why? I'm getting bored and I'm finding myself snapping at ppl a bit and I'm really irritable out of nowhere. I'm itching to fight, but I don't want to spar, I want to fight. I'm only in a good mood when I'm in the gym or stoned on the couch eating junk (although I have swapped out all the junk in the house for healthier high protein alternatives) a PBJ and some Greek yogurt replaced the poptarts and Oreos lol. Work is busy and that is a bit stressful at times but I'm doing well so I shouldn't complain. Been

Other then that, I'm looking good, I'm lean and full dispite being lighter on the scale. My 195 looks bigger then my older 200-205pics. I don't need to bulk but if I start cutting it's not going to last long because I probably don't have more than like 5-8 pounds that I can lose comfortably. And it's not something I want to maintain anyways. I don't wanna blast anything hard either because I wanna save that for my Bulk

So..... With all the things I've mentioned, I only have 2 options.

Option 1. Dedicate this block to strength, lower body focused, eat enough to make progress but stay under 200, 205 tops. Mild cycle, probably test only, maybe pop some orals pre workout 2X week for my squat sessions.

Option #2. I cut off my left foot, maybe below the knee, get a peg leg and start training for the 2027 special Olympics in Chile. Im definitely a little retarded so I'm already qualified as a multi sport athlete.


What do you guys think 🤔
I’d do the lower body strength cycle. I have watched the Paralympic drug-tested bench-only guys and it’s f*cking insane how much these guys put up. Because their legs aren’t trainable (or flat out missing), they’re essentially a whole weightclass lower than they’d be in open powerlifting. And because they train with full dedication just to their upper body, they make even better progress.

I’m talking like a 240lb weightclass with tested guys putting up like 500lbs in some cases - without leg drive or any arch.
 
I’d do the lower body strength cycle. I have watched the Paralympic drug-tested bench-only guys and it’s f*cking insane how much these guys put up. Because their legs aren’t trainable (or flat out missing), they’re essentially a whole weightclass lower than they’d be in open powerlifting. And because they train with full dedication just to their upper body, they make even better progress.

I’m talking like a 240lb weightclass with tested guys putting up like 500lbs in some cases - without leg drive or any arch.
I've seen it. Some of them get strapped to the bench and the numbers are insane.
 
Im just kind of journaling here. Writing a few ideas down to build upon later.

Been using EQ my last few cycles to control estrogen from testosterone. I think this time around I'm going to swap out eq for primo, or mast and a little exemestane. Goal is to use however much of one of those (or a little bit of both) so I can use 600 test without needing a daily AI. From past experiences, 600 test, 300-400mast and a occasional exemestane dose will do the job. I could also run 450/450 no AI but I would rather run more test as 400-450mast I don't really notice anything other than estrogen management and maybe a little extra horny from time to time 🤷😂. So around 900-1000 total mg of what I consider very low risk compounds. And I'll pop a random oral pre workout when squatting or training legs.


For now I'm going to stay at 300 test only with the pre workout M1A 2× week since I have a bottle kicking around. Friday I'm ordering a few supplies/gear.

Today I will set up a squat rack for myself and knock out random sets with light to moderate weight for warm ups while I'm training the boxing guys for the first 45min and at the end of that I have a guy who's been working up the weight on his squat and deadlift so I'll have him do some heavy-ish 3 rep sets with me and then we're gonna do some hack squats and leg presses.

I do some mobility stuff and chins in the downtime when I'm training people too.

Gotta get a little creative how to build my program. I basically have a 2 hour window 3x week where I'm training ppl but there's downtime to squeeze in sets for myself. I can usually manage about 12 total sets of whatever in that 2 hr window.


And I'll have to make 2 days a week where I'm hitting whatever I don't get done in those other time blocks.

Il make it work.

Diet needs structure again. Crazy work schedule has me eating like this....


Coffee
Lunch at Chipotle or somewhere that I can eat reasonably. Greek yogurt or a shake after work, gym 6-8, meat and rice 1 hr post workout and yogurt, granola, peanut butter ect. As a high protein dessert replacement.


At any point in time lately if I've been hungry I just eat what I want but I haven't been going too crazy except for that one weekend I binged out like a mother f*****
 
Sounds like you have a good plan to go along with your current hustle.
 
Personally I'm a fan of option #2 but two take aways I pulled from your posts is that you're not eating breakfast and you're also finding a bad mood frequently. FWIW I was just talking to Kleen about this and all the sudden when I went old school with multiple meals my mood has been WAY WAY better. My motivation is up and my evening hunger is down. Breakfast is likely my largest meal of the day this week as I have it currently planned and I feel like it's creating far better balance for me. all meat and rice.
 
I get the desire to fight though too. I have a real strong hankering to "compete" lately but I haven't decided what that is. I was actually shopping bikes the other day contemplating preparing for winter indoor BMX and then I found out the local indoor BMX track closed permenantly this past spring, so thats out. I've been thinking again about going back to the local boxing gym. it's of high interest to me, I just have no idea where to start there other than to order some gloves and just show up I guess.
 
I get the desire to fight though too. I have a real strong hankering to "compete" lately but I haven't decided what that is. I was actually shopping bikes the other day contemplating preparing for winter indoor BMX and then I found out the local indoor BMX track closed permenantly this past spring, so thats out. I've been thinking again about going back to the local boxing gym. it's of high interest to me, I just have no idea where to start there other than to order some gloves and just show up I guess.
I think the way it works in a lot of them is you pay your membership, then you find a coach to work with you there. Might as well talk to them to find out what weight gloves you should get before going to get them.
 
I think the way it works in a lot of them is you pay your membership, then you find a coach to work with you there. Might as well talk to them to find out what weight gloves you should get before going to get them.
Yeah there is one down the road from my office, he said 16oz. I haven't been in there in 2 years so I might swing by to double check schedules etc and see if I can motivate to buy some gloves...
 
Yeah there is one down the road from my office, he said 16oz. I haven't been in there in 2 years so I might swing by to double check schedules etc and see if I can motivate to buy some gloves...
I keep thinking about this. Mostly I miss fighting a bit, and I honestly think out of all martial arts boxing is probably one of the most useful in a self defense scenario. Especially considering how they push sparring and developing timing. That is what really counts in real world situations. If you have timing, precision, and decent hands you are not going to be an easy target. I love karate and the like, but many of those martial arts do not spend enough time actually sparring or fighting to be effective in the real world. If you don't come from a fighting gym/dojo you have a pretty decent chance of getting your ass kicked trying to do a kata while being attacked. Just saying... That is why a lot of my training was at a Martial Arts / MMA gym, so we got to actually do a lot of sparring and experiencing hitting and getting hit. Those are very important in a fight.
 
I keep thinking about this. Mostly I miss fighting a bit, and I honestly think out of all martial arts boxing is probably one of the most useful in a self defense scenario. Especially considering how they push sparring and developing timing. That is what really counts in real world situations. If you have timing, precision, and decent hands you are not going to be an easy target. I love karate and the like, but many of those martial arts do not spend enough time actually sparring or fighting to be effective in the real world. If you don't come from a fighting gym/dojo you have a pretty decent chance of getting your ass kicked trying to do a kata while being attacked. Just saying... That is why a lot of my training was at a Martial Arts / MMA gym, so we got to actually do a lot of sparring and experiencing hitting and getting hit. Those are very important in a fight.
I would gain great value from learning how to not get hit, lol. I'm pretty sure every fight I ever got into I only did well because I could take a lot more hits than my opponent 😂 😂

you cant count on that rocky balboa approach for long lol
 
@Hyde

I'm trying to set some strength goals for the 16-21 year old group of fighters I have working with me. Some of these kids are brand new to lifting weights in a semi serious manner. Meaning that they've messed around with the weights a little bit but they never followed any kind of program and they don't know how to do everything correctly.

Bench press your BW 3-5 reps
Squat 1.5 x BW 3-5 reps
OHP 0.5 x BW 3-5 reps
Rack pull 2x BW 3-5 reps
Deadlift 2x BW 1 rep

There not working on all these lifts, some guys are, but most of the guys are focusing on 2 of the lifts, 1 upper 1 lower.

Am I setting the bar too high for them? There fighters, not powerlifters but I feel like these numbers should be very attainable for young men athletes.
Since they are about my age, I may be able to help a bit. Ik you tagged smont but I feel I should give my take on it. I’m 170lbs so that would mean for me:

Squatting 255x3-5
Benching 170lbsx3-5
Ohp 85lbsx3-5
Rack pull 170x3-5
Deadlift 340lbs

If I were taking lifting not very serious and focusing on playing a sport, fighting in your case then I would say most of them are pretty good aside from squat and deadlift. If I were 16, didn’t take training too seriously and focused on fighting rather than lifting I think those are a bit far fetched personally.

I think for squat I’ll say 1.25x bodyweight, and deadlift 1.5x-1.75x bodyweight is more appropriate.
That’s just me personally.
 
I got a 17-year-old kid asking me about Reta and mk-677 and I'm just like bud we can't talk about drugs and your 17 and your just lazy shut up and run. They all ask me whether supplements they should take but they want to know what I'm on too, and they're not talking about supplements so I got to play this f****** game all the time lol

Got my work cut out for me.
Lmao, peptides are blowing up like crazy on TikTok rn so that’s probably why. There’s lots of kids out there looking to take them and seeing mk677 as some miracle GH drug to increase their height and muscle mass.
 
Lmao, peptides are blowing up like crazy on TikTok rn so that’s probably why. There’s lots of kids out there looking to take them and seeing mk677 as some miracle GH drug to increase their height and muscle mass.
double edged sword. one the one hand, yeah... no drugs kids. mmmmkay? on the other hand, good to see the youth wanting to be more alpha.
 
double edged sword. one the one hand, yeah... no drugs kids. mmmmkay? on the other hand, good to see the youth wanting to be more alpha.
Peptides have been blowing up like crazy, people keep posting about them online targeted towards teens, it’s mainly transformation videos where one kid took it and then magically grows 3 inches and gets a bulging jawline🤣 taking peptides has become a joke saying that people “ascend” when they take them, but it’s really appealed to some kids who want to become taller, stronger, more attractive, etc.

I suppose it’s better than steroids at least.

One of my buddies came up to me recently and he is hopping on retatutide, ipamorelin, and like 5 other ones he found online. When I asked him where he’s getting them he says the Chinese black market has insane prices, he showed me and the prices are like 10% of what they sell them for in the USA and Canada. So he is going to order them to the USA and drive down to pick them up and bring them over the boarder.

It was insanely stupid, first of all if he gets busted with that I don’t know what they will do. At worst I suppose he can get detained and at best if they catch him they will just confiscate it. But I highly doubt they will turn a blind eye.

On top of that I wouldn’t doubt those cheap Chinese suppliers, if it sounds too good to be true it is too good to be true.

I told him to just find a reputable Canadian site and buy them there even if they are way more expensive, also don’t hop on 6 peptides at once.
 
I’ve been considering some peptides recently too, but only for their immune system, sleep and mental benefits rather than anything else.

There’s some interesting oral ones called “peptide bioregulators” they seem super interesting and I do hope to try them eventually.
 
I don't really think peptides are better than steroids, they both mess with things, and both have the potential for negative side effects. Steroids are just more stigmatized. Bottom line if going to the gray / black market both are at risk for not being what you ordered. Both have a risk of being contaminated, and depending one why someone is taking something peptides are often not going to give the results that steroids do.

Also, retatrutide is not a peptide, it is a drug that antagonizes some peptides, and MK is a secretagogue not a peptide, I think a lot of people have no clue what they are talking about when they discuss peptides. Not saying you, but most of the things being sold at research chemical companies are not actually peptides, they just tend to get lumped into that category for some reason.
 
Peptides have been blowing up like crazy, people keep posting about them online targeted towards teens, it’s mainly transformation videos where one kid took it and then magically grows 3 inches and gets a bulging jawline🤣 taking peptides has become a joke saying that people “ascend” when they take them, but it’s really appealed to some kids who want to become taller, stronger, more attractive, etc.

I suppose it’s better than steroids at least.

One of my buddies came up to me recently and he is hopping on retatutide, ipamorelin, and like 5 other ones he found online. When I asked him where he’s getting them he says the Chinese black market has insane prices, he showed me and the prices are like 10% of what they sell them for in the USA and Canada. So he is going to order them to the USA and drive down to pick them up and bring them over the boarder.

It was insanely stupid, first of all if he gets busted with that I don’t know what they will do. At worst I suppose he can get detained and at best if they catch him they will just confiscate it. But I highly doubt they will turn a blind eye.

On top of that I wouldn’t doubt those cheap Chinese suppliers, if it sounds too good to be true it is too good to be true.

I told him to just find a reputable Canadian site and buy them there even if they are way more expensive, also don’t hop on 6 peptides at once.
Smuggling controlled pharmaceutical drugs like Reta across an international border with quantities that immediately qualify as intent to distribute will be radically more severe than just “getting detained,” I promise you.
 
I don't really think peptides are better than steroids, they both mess with things, and both have the potential for negative side effects. Steroids are just more stigmatized. Bottom line if going to the gray / black market both are at risk for not being what you ordered. Both have a risk of being contaminated, and depending one why someone is taking something peptides are often not going to give the results that steroids do.

Also, retatrutide is not a peptide, it is a drug that antagonizes some peptides, and MK is a secretagogue not a peptide, I think a lot of people have no clue what they are talking about when they discuss peptides. Not saying you, but most of the things being sold at research chemical companies are not actually peptides, they just tend to get lumped into that category for some reason.
Yeah, thanks for the info. I knew mk is not a peptide but I always thought Reta was one.

As for them being better than steroids, I guess it depends on the peptide and on the steroid. When I was talking about that I was referring to the old oral steroids teenagers and high schoolers used to take as opposed them using peptides now, I know there’s were some big problems with high schoolers who knew nothing about steroids popping strong orals like superdrol, dbol before when they were available otc and side effects of them weren’t very well known.
 
Smuggling controlled pharmaceutical drugs like Reta across an international border with quantities that immediately qualify as intent to distribute will be radically more severe than just “getting detained,” I promise you.
Yeah, that’s why I told him it’s stupid haha. Don’t mess with border **** ever.

My immediate reaction when he told me that was just amazement of how stupid it was, but I didn’t know the exact legality of peptides in Canada vs USA so I’m not sure exactly the legality of it. I’ll let him know what you said and tell him to just order from a Canadian site.
 
@Shadowblaze

DM me if you have any peptide questions I work as a rep for ma research chemicals and I don't b******* people you can ask anybody here they'll tell you that I will tell you the truth even if it means me not making sales. With that being said there are some useful peptides, but I do not know of any oral GH or oral healing peptides that work (oral bpc works for your gut) but not healing injury.

Mk677 does work, it's also not a peptide, but, it does not work like HGH. It's better for recovery and to make you hungry. It doesn't do a ton for muscle growth and I don't believe it does anything for fat loss.

The injectable growth hormone peptides work better for younger people than they do for older people from what I've seen. Which is the opposite of HGH that seems to work better for older guys than younger guys.

Just don't get caught up in all the smoke and mirrors of the gray area stuff because without the steroids to go with the peptides, there not impressive for muscle growth or fat loss. They work, but just like HGH and Insulin they work significantly better when you're on steroids.
 
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@Shadowblaze

DM me if you have any peptide questions I work as a rep for ma research chemicals and I don't b******* people you can ask anybody here they'll tell you that I will tell you the truth even if it means me not making sales. With that being said there are some useful peptides I do not know of any oral GH or healing peptides that work so do not waste your money on those. Mk677 does work but it does not work like HGH. It's better for recovery and to make you hungry
Thanks brother I appreciate that!

I don’t see myself using peptides in the near future, it’s more so something I may be open to trying later in life mainly for my autoimmune problems. I’ve been looking into Thompson alpha 1 and it’s seems pretty cool for its immune system benefits.

But if I ever have questions I’ll shoot you a message.
 
Thanks brother I appreciate that!

I don’t see myself using peptides in the near future, it’s more so something I may be open to trying later in life mainly for my autoimmune problems. I’ve been looking into Thompson alpha 1 and it’s seems pretty cool for its immune system benefits.

But if I ever have questions I’ll shoot you a message.
I edited my post to be a little more specific
 
@Smont

Sorry if I missed it, but any update on Mike?
 
I don't really think peptides are better than steroids, they both mess with things, and both have the potential for negative side effects. Steroids are just more stigmatized. Bottom line if going to the gray / black market both are at risk for not being what you ordered. Both have a risk of being contaminated, and depending one why someone is taking something peptides are often not going to give the results that steroids do.

Also, retatrutide is not a peptide, it is a drug that antagonizes some peptides, and MK is a secretagogue not a peptide, I think a lot of people have no clue what they are talking about when they discuss peptides. Not saying you, but most of the things being sold at research chemical companies are not actually peptides, they just tend to get lumped into that category for some reason.
Peptides better then steroids? Not even in the same atmosphere. I'm also realizing that people have absolutely no clue what peptides are, they've lumped everything into one category just like they did with sarms.

We got people calling MK 677 a peptide now, and for the last 20 years people been calling mk677 a sarm and it's not either. It's a growth hormone secretagogue.

The reason this is going on is because peptide companies and research chemical companies are spamming the internet like a mother f***** and now we have a bunch of morons teaching children how to use drugs that the morons don't know anything about in the first place.

We're back to the blind leading the stupid
 
Semaglutide, Reta and other like products are glp1-agonists, amylin analogs and most of them diabetes medications.

SLU, dada, carnitine, carnosine, meldonium, amp5 are all ergogenic aids. (I got some INJECTABLE amp-5 anyone use it before?)

All the ghrp's, ipam, hex, cjc ect, these are peptides, specifically growth hormone peptides or fragments.

Mk is a growth hormone secretagogue

Bpc, TB ect. Are regenerative peptides

HCG, HMG are gonadotropin peptides

I can go on for a while, but most of the things that people seem to think are peptides are not peptides at all.

Also peptide is pretty broad spectrum it can mean a lot of different things because there's so many different kinds of peptides
 
Yeah, when it comes to peptides, I think for the most part they are better for health stuff than growth. Good for growth hormone replacement, or enhancement, but not going to be a game changer regarding anabolic action. The regenerative peptides are great, but using peptides for bodybuilding you need to be on some other stuff to really take advantage of them. However honestly for what you need to spend for a lot of the peptides to run them you might as well just run 2IU of HGH.
 
Yeah, when it comes to peptides, I think for the most part they are better for health stuff than growth. Good for growth hormone replacement, or enhancement, but not going to be a game changer regarding anabolic action. The regenerative peptides are great, but using peptides for bodybuilding you need to be on some other stuff to really take advantage of them. However honestly for what you need to spend for a lot of the peptides to run them you might as well just run 2IU of HGH.
Yes I would 100% recommend HGH over any HGH or healing peptides. HGH plus the healing peptides is something that I like a lot.

But I see no point in HGH in combination with GH peptides.

The HGH will trump all those peptides together
 
So he is going to order them to the USA and drive down to pick them up and bring them over the boarder.

It was insanely stupid, first of all if he gets busted with that I don’t know what they will do. At worst I suppose he can get detained and at best if they catch him they will just confiscate it. But I highly doubt they will turn a blind eye.

since you and I live sorta close to each other I'll tell you that border crossing in Blaine is no joke, he better shove them deep up his bunghole if he's trying to cross with contraband. I've gone up to vancouver twice for short stays. once overnight for a concert and the second time to look at a CST-V for sale. Both times when BP realizes you've jumped back and forth in a matter of hours they give you the third degree and immediately assume you are just smuggling drugs.
 
It sure would be a shame to get convicted of a felony for what he will get from peptides.... I mean if he is going to go illegal he might as well use things that are going to make a big difference.
 
since you and I live sorta close to each other I'll tell you that border crossing in Blaine is no joke, he better shove them deep up his bunghole if he's trying to cross with contraband. I've gone up to vancouver twice for short stays. once overnight for a concert and the second time to look at a CST-V for sale. Both times when BP realizes you've jumped back and forth in a matter of hours they give you the third degree and immediately assume you are just smuggling drugs.
Yeah they are really on your ass when it comes to the Blaine border, if they suspect you may be up to something they will pull you aside and run checks on you. That happened when a family member came here to visit us from Germany and we went to Seattle, they saw that they only had German identification and believed they could be up to something so they literally pulled us aside for a few hours, I don’t recall everything that happened entirely but they made him sign some stuff and then eventually they just let us go.

My buddy hasn’t replied to my texts the past few days so I hope he didn’t actually go pick them up and get busted. He called me once but I missed the call and he hasn’t been replying to any of my texts.

Are you in Seattle? Or in that area? I’ve only ever been to the states once or twice and both times was to Seattle, I really like the states though. I’ve always considered moving to Portland or Seattle later in life if I can get a job there. I love Seattle and that entire NW area of the USA so it would be cool to spend some time living there.
 
Are you in Seattle? Or in that area? I’ve only ever been to the states once or twice and both times was to Seattle, I really like the states though. I’ve always considered moving to Portland or Seattle later in life if I can get a job there. I love Seattle and that entire NW area of the USA so it would be cool to spend some time living there
We are about an hour south, my office is about 30 minutes outside of Seattle. tbh Seattle, Tacoma, and Portland are still 3 of my favorite cities although much of the culture is gone, all the old rock clubs have been replaced by amazon sky scrapers, the crime and fentanyl problems are through the roof but there is still a lot of good times to be had on the water front, comedy clubs, etc. Music is a bit harder to find now days though.
 
We are about an hour south, my office is about 30 minutes outside of Seattle. tbh Seattle, Tacoma, and Portland are still 3 of my favorite cities although much of the culture is gone, all the old rock clubs have been replaced by amazon sky scrapers, the crime and fentanyl problems are through the roof but there is still a lot of good times to be had on the water front, comedy clubs, etc. Music is a bit harder to find now days though.
Dang that’s a shame, I feel that Vancouver, Portland and Seattle are similar in terms of the setting and weather. But from what I know Seattle and Portland are a bit more green and fast paced which I like and also have some more culture.

It sucks that they tore down some of that and built more high rises.

Canada has a work deal with some countries where you can move there and get a job and work for a few years. I have also been thinking of doing that with australia, seems like a really cool country. I just want to spend some time living somewhere else on my own, I’ve always wanted that.
 
We are about an hour south, my office is about 30 minutes outside of Seattle. tbh Seattle, Tacoma, and Portland are still 3 of my favorite cities although much of the culture is gone, all the old rock clubs have been replaced by amazon sky scrapers, the crime and fentanyl problems are through the roof but there is still a lot of good times to be had on the water front, comedy clubs, etc. Music is a bit harder to find now days though.
My wife really likes Seattle area. We're in the midwest now and cost of living is hard to beat the midwest when you compare it with the Seattle area.
 
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