KLEEN LIVING - A log about Life, Training, and Nutrition.

Hopefully you get a little relief and feel better by this weekend.

I hit a low of 204.6 this weekend, which is .2lbs lighter than I woke up Friday morning after my fast. I no longer have any concerns of hitting my 200 by March 31st. A few more weeks with fasting, and staying in a deficit I should have that in the bag. Physique wise, I am smaller, of course. I am flat as a pancake, but my turtle shell belly has come down a lot, and my abs are on the retightening up phase again. They smoothed over a little once my waist got much smaller and the fat wasn't stretched as far. I would say I lost the most size in the legs. Not really having been able to push them while in such a deficit. I am not worried though because once I am focusing more on trying to rebuild muscle while leaning up I will fill right back up and look MUCH better. I won't be upset if I bounce back a little above 200 for a little bit by filling up more on the way to lower body fat. I actually expect to once go back to 4 meals a day and more calories overall by slowing the weight loss goal down and pushing MPS and lifting more. It is really a look not a weight that I am looking for at the beach but I wanted to be decently cleaned up before any sort of push to regain muscle.

I wasn't feeling well Saturday, I had an upset stomach and felt completely drained. I slept until 12:30, and decided to stay home and watch movies with the wife since I was just feeling run down like I was fighting something off. Sunday, I was still feeling rough, a little better, but after running some errands I went home for a nap and didn't wake up until almost bedtime to eat watch a little TV and then go back to bed.

I am feeling better today, and looking forward to a training session, between the injury stuff and whatever I was fighting off this weekend I only trained everything once last week which is not how I wanted things to go. So I want to get a nice start in today.
 
I hit a low of 204.6 this weekend, which is .2lbs lighter than I woke up Friday morning after my fast. I no longer have any concerns of hitting my 200 by March 31st. A few more weeks with fasting, and staying in a deficit I should have that in the bag. Physique wise, I am smaller, of course. I am flat as a pancake, but my turtle shell belly has come down a lot, and my abs are on the retightening up phase again. They smoothed over a little once my waist got much smaller and the fat wasn't stretched as far. I would say I lost the most size in the legs. Not really having been able to push them while in such a deficit. I am not worried though because once I am focusing more on trying to rebuild muscle while leaning up I will fill right back up and look MUCH better. I won't be upset if I bounce back a little above 200 for a little bit by filling up more on the way to lower body fat. I actually expect to once go back to 4 meals a day and more calories overall by slowing the weight loss goal down and pushing MPS and lifting more. It is really a look not a weight that I am looking for at the beach but I wanted to be decently cleaned up before any sort of push to regain muscle.

I wasn't feeling well Saturday, I had an upset stomach and felt completely drained. I slept until 12:30, and decided to stay home and watch movies with the wife since I was just feeling run down like I was fighting something off. Sunday, I was still feeling rough, a little better, but after running some errands I went home for a nap and didn't wake up until almost bedtime to eat watch a little TV and then go back to bed.

I am feeling better today, and looking forward to a training session, between the injury stuff and whatever I was fighting off this weekend I only trained everything once last week which is not how I wanted things to go. So I want to get a nice start in today.
Rest is the best thing for the body to heal up. Glad you’re feeling better.💪
 
Rest is the best thing for the body to heal up. Glad you’re feeling better.💪
Yeah, my lower back has improved vastly the last week. The neck just somewhat, but that is going to require some medical intervention. I am going to make an appointment to see someone this week, see if we can't get an MRI in the books, probably also see if I can't get in for a foot X-ray to see if I have something else going on in my foot than a bruised bone. It is improving still but it will get tender easily. I am also going to try to go give blood at some point this week.
 
Yeah, my lower back has improved vastly the last week. The neck just somewhat, but that is going to require some medical intervention. I am going to make an appointment to see someone this week, see if we can't get an MRI in the books, probably also see if I can't get in for a foot X-ray to see if I have something else going on in my foot than a bruised bone. It is improving still but it will get tender easily. I am also going to try to go give blood at some point this week.

I have friends in their 40s, 50s and beyond who are constantly needing new surgeries etc, one buddy blew out his hip and had a hip surgery at the age of 34 recently. None of these guys train / lift and they can't wrap their head around my intentional DOMs etc... lol When I think about it sometimes I figure I'd rather have these aches and pains that are caused from the training, then the surgeries aches and pains that come from tripping over a rock because the body has zero strength or balance etc. I think at the end of the day what I've realized is we're all going to have injuries and I want mine to be sports oriented, it always seems to minimize the non sports orientated injuries...
 
I have friends in their 40s, 50s and beyond who are constantly needing new surgeries etc, one buddy blew out his hip and had a hip surgery at the age of 34 recently. None of these guys train / lift and they can't wrap their head around my intentional DOMs etc... lol When I think about it sometimes I figure I'd rather have these aches and pains that are caused from the training, then the surgeries aches and pains that come from tripping over a rock because the body has zero strength or balance etc. I think at the end of the day what I've realized is we're all going to have injuries and I want mine to be sports oriented, it always seems to minimize the non sports orientated injuries...
It is funny that you say that. The neck, and the spine issues I have are both from non-lifting related injuries, both of them originated from car accidents. Actually on both occasions I was told that the fact I was strong and heavily muscled probably kept me from being paralyzed or severely injured. Unfortunately they told me that I would very likely experience problems later down the road, which I am now.

My C7 was literally twisted 30 degrees after a wreck, and the guy told me all of my muscle saved my life, or at least my mobility. I believed him too, because my hand and arm was twitching, shaking and hard to control so I know my nerves were f-ed for a little while. So I consider these issues now a blessing compared to what could have happened even though they are a struggle currently.
 
Oh man thats right I forgot about the accidents. coincidentally I had a friend who was on the side of the road changing a tire and got hit, sent him like 20ft flying. Back then he was a BIG boy, over 400lbs. (he spent the last 2 years getting back into shape). the doctors ironically said the same thing about him that his size is what kept him alive. had he been a healthy size back then the impact would have killed him zero doubt.
 
I had a nice lower body session yesterday, got in some decent work. Still having to do the pushing stuff lighter but seems things are slowly improving.

Hack Squats - 4 sets
Hyper Extension Bench - 4 sets
Leg Extensions x 4 sets
Leg Curls x 4 sets
Planks - 1 minute x 2
100's 1 set to fail or 100 pulses whichever comes first.

My knee is a little whiney lately, going to have to pull out the knee sleeves for some extra support while restrengthening.
 
My knee is a little whiney lately, going to have to pull out the knee sleeves for some extra support while restrengthening.

I think weather plays a big role for me. up here in the pnw 90% of my knee joint related movements are sleeved but when I'm somewhere warm hitting a gym I don't really have the same issues. as much as I wear mine, I'm living proof of how great the rhebands are lol.
 
I think weather plays a big role for me. up here in the pnw 90% of my knee joint related movements are sleeved but when I'm somewhere warm hitting a gym I don't really have the same issues. as much as I wear mine, I'm living proof of how great the rhebands are lol.

Yeah, I think I am going to bust out birthday gift cards and get some knee and elbow sleeves that are better suited for wearing all session. Both of the ones I have are more for heavy work, more on and off or within an exercise or two. I think I am going to get a Velcro neoprene belt for general workouts and support. I need to be able to get more sessions in over a longer period of time so it is time to get some extra support.

I did add in the neck exercises that @GreenMachineX posted in his log last week. I did them last night before and after my session and it did seem to help. Less discomfort this morning and I pushed myself on some things I thought were going to trigger it. I even noticed acute change relieving tightness and nerve referral post workout which was awesome. I am about to do them again before bed,

Iso-lateral Incline Press 90 x 4 sets to one or two Long Range Partials.

Normal Grip Pull Ups - 4 sets to 1RIR final set 0RIR + 2 LRP

DB Lateral Raise 15x 1RIR x 3 sets final set + 10 LRP

DB Rear Delt Swings 20 x 2 sets - started bothering neck will do on Incline bench to see if better

DB Curls - 25x 3 sets 1RIR + LRP

One Arm DB Overhead Triceps Extension 25x3 sets 1RIR + LRP


As mentioned, my neck and back felt much better after doing those exercises with the band. I have also been focusing on doing something for my abs every time I go to the gym. Trying to strengthen my core. That lower back issue really has is pretty weak right now. Pain is not bad but the stabilization challenge of the one Arm overhead Triceps Extension was real! So, I am just going to keep adding things to improve my weaknesses until I am able to train how I want to be able to train. I am able to get intensity through reps, short rest periods, and RIR but It isn't my ideal type of training.

I fasted today and am holding over until morning, and possibly until lunch or beyond, We are having a catered BBQ luncheon at work tomorrow so I will very likely break my fast with a protein heavy meal. If available I will opt for turkey, but I am definitely going to have a little bit of brisket if I choose to break my fast. I may keep it keto style, and then fast again until Friday and work legs then. Honestly, it is all up in the air, my goal was a 36hr so everything else is a bonus. I also took my brisk 1 hour walk at lunch. Still kind of babying the foot not throwing too much at it. Gauging by sensitivity after activity and adjusting. Improvements there seem to be coming more quickly now. All in all I am happy with the current progress for what I have been able to put into it while trying not to aggravate any of these issues I am juggling right now.

Alright I am off to do these neck exercises!
 
Yeah, I think I am going to bust out birthday gift cards and get some knee and elbow sleeves that are better suited for wearing all session. Both of the ones I have are more for heavy work, more on and off or within an exercise or two. I think I am going to get a Velcro neoprene belt for general workouts and support. I need to be able to get more sessions in over a longer period of time so it is time to get some extra support.
I think those Rehbands have come down a bit in price since I bought mine. I'm certain mine were pre 2016 and price was around $80ea, I'm seeing them for like $45 on amazon now.

Still kind of babying the foot not throwing too much at it. Gauging by sensitivity after activity and adjusting.

I've been pleasantly surprised by how my feet have held up with those cardio circuits I've been doing (less running overall probably helps). I was however a little surprised when I added eliptical this week that the extra bend in the foot on that low impact movement irritated it a bit FWIW... Rowing and bike though, have felt like basically zero foot impact.
 
Glad you are able to work around the issues and find some relief. 👍
Thanks and same here!
I think those Rehbands have come down a bit in price since I bought mine. I'm certain mine were pre 2016 and price was around $80ea, I'm seeing them for like $45 on amazon now.



I've been pleasantly surprised by how my feet have held up with those cardio circuits I've been doing (less running overall probably helps). I was however a little surprised when I added eliptical this week that the extra bend in the foot on that low impact movement irritated it a bit FWIW... Rowing and bike though, have felt like basically zero foot impact.
Oh yeah rowing wouldn't be too bad, just not sure how my upper back and neck would take it, plus my elbow has a bit of tendonitis in it right now so I imagine that would bring out the sting. I will probably give it a shot, but honestly, the nutrition and walking is taking care of the weight loss right now. Higher intensity would definitely help with HDL though.

I broke my dang band I was using for my neck exercises. It apparently dried out too much. I am going to see if I can find my other one in the house and hopefully it has a little more elasticity.

I was planning to break my fast at lunch today to have some good BBQ but it looks like they are trying to save money just buying chopped brisket, and pulled pork sandwiches. They did have my favorite dessert, a Tres Leches cake but I kept it moving. If I ain't having a big serving of meat then there wasn't anything I was willing to break my fast for. So, I am going to hold over until tonight or possibly hold out for 60hr fast and go until morning.
 
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Yeah, I think I am going to bust out birthday gift cards and get some knee and elbow sleeves that are better suited for wearing all session. Both of the ones I have are more for heavy work, more on and off or within an exercise or two. I think I am going to get a Velcro neoprene belt for general workouts and support. I need to be able to get more sessions in over a longer period of time so it is time to get some extra support.

I did add in the neck exercises that @GreenMachineX posted in his log last week. I did them last night before and after my session and it did seem to help. Less discomfort this morning and I pushed myself on some things I thought were going to trigger it. I even noticed acute change relieving tightness and nerve referral post workout which was awesome. I am about to do them again before bed,

Iso-lateral Incline Press 90 x 4 sets to one or two Long Range Partials.

Normal Grip Pull Ups - 4 sets to 1RIR final set 0RIR + 2 LRP

DB Lateral Raise 15x 1RIR x 3 sets final set + 10 LRP

DB Rear Delt Swings 20 x 2 sets - started bothering neck will do on Incline bench to see if better

DB Curls - 25x 3 sets 1RIR + LRP

One Arm DB Overhead Triceps Extension 25x3 sets 1RIR + LRP


As mentioned, my neck and back felt much better after doing those exercises with the band. I have also been focusing on doing something for my abs every time I go to the gym. Trying to strengthen my core. That lower back issue really has is pretty weak right now. Pain is not bad but the stabilization challenge of the one Arm overhead Triceps Extension was real! So, I am just going to keep adding things to improve my weaknesses until I am able to train how I want to be able to train. I am able to get intensity through reps, short rest periods, and RIR but It isn't my ideal type of training.

I fasted today and am holding over until morning, and possibly until lunch or beyond, We are having a catered BBQ luncheon at work tomorrow so I will very likely break my fast with a protein heavy meal. If available I will opt for turkey, but I am definitely going to have a little bit of brisket if I choose to break my fast. I may keep it keto style, and then fast again until Friday and work legs then. Honestly, it is all up in the air, my goal was a 36hr so everything else is a bonus. I also took my brisk 1 hour walk at lunch. Still kind of babying the foot not throwing too much at it. Gauging by sensitivity after activity and adjusting. Improvements there seem to be coming more quickly now. All in all I am happy with the current progress for what I have been able to put into it while trying not to aggravate any of these issues I am juggling right now.

Alright I am off to do these neck exercises!
Glad to hear the exercises are helping someone else, but hate that someone else needs them in the first place 🤭
 
I will probably give it a shot, but honestly, the nutrition and walking is taking care of the weight loss right now. Higher intensity would definitely help with HDL though.
I need to turn you into a golfer! walking 18 holes is an amazing way to get 4 to 5 hours of LISS in !!
 
The people wanna know about the fast!
First, sorry for disappearing on you guys, I ended up completing a 60 hour fast, things have just been a bit crazy since then.
@MrKleen73 how’s the neck?
It seems to be improving. I have not been able to push my lifting as hard the last 2 weeks. That probably has a little to do with it. I was only getting one session per muscle in. Work has been crazy, we just got our laptops in that we ordered a long while ago and they have been pushing us to get as many done per week as possible. We need to catch back up with the timeline for the rollout. We have several follow up projects that depend on this being completed on schedule. So work has just been a bit wild and have been getting in some good OT.

Since I knew I could not train as much with my schedule, I increased my fasting and made damn good progress on weight loss but I am definitely smaller mostly in my legs. My abs are not as defined as I had hoped, but my waist has gotten so much smaller (visceral fat loss), love handles are better, and my obliques and serratus have cleaned up some. It's just that the waist shrinkage makes the fat bunch up over the abs where is was stretched thinner previously. I am not too worried about leg size, they will come back up a lot with more frequent feedings, even if not as big. I am not worried about being BIG right now. I want my walking weight somewhere between 190 and 200 maybe up to 205 if I regain muscle more easily due to muscle memory while on the upcoming cycle. I just want to try to get and keep my abs looking decent. Not looking to remain in a ripped state. Honestly once my body fat is low enough my gyno is not obvious in a shirt I am pretty damn happy. So that is the real maintenance target after the trip.

Speaking of fasting and weight loss, I woke up at 199.8 this morning!!!! Goal 1 achieved with 23 days left!!!!!

I kind of expect to go back up around 203 once eating regularly, eating lower fat, while keeping carbs up as high as the caloric limit allows after protein requirements are met. Especially since I will not be completely depleting every few days.

I am not exactly sure how I did it but I have a touch of plantar fasciitis in my left foot now, that was the one that hurt. I imagine I changed the way I was walking to keep the pressure off the ball of my foot and it has just gradually stressed the area. So just started rolling my feet again, and am testing walking around the house without shoes to let my feet strengthen back up. I think being in shoes nonstop has probably weekend them a bit too.
 
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Always walk barefoot/socks in your house if you can as much as possible. It is truly an adaptation. The shoes are like supportive armor - they protect you, but staying in them also makes you weaker.

So in your case, at least try to get increase time out of them until you feel like pain barefoot at home is lessening. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing, just consistent improvement over time.
 
Agreed,
Always walk barefoot/socks in your house if you can as much as possible. It is truly an adaptation. The shoes are like supportive armor - they protect you, but staying in them also makes you weaker.

So in your case, at least try to get increase time out of them until you feel like pain barefoot at home is lessening. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing, just consistent improvement over time.
Agreed, I had to keep the shoes on to let the bone bruise heal up more because walking barefoot hurt, and I knew it was making it worse or at a minimum keeping it from healing like it should. Now it is much better than it was and the weakness has shown it's head so the time has come to make some adjustments. Just had to use the shoes as a crutch, now it is time to rehab the resulting weakness of the crutch.
 
And he has already smoked his goal lol. Nice work brother!
Yes Sir, I may be having a hard time with the lifting, and cardio now, but I can damn sure create a deficit easily! Just have to do what you can, when you can.
 
congrats dude!!

I am not exactly sure how I did it but I have a touch of plantar fasciitis in my left foot now, that was the one that hurt. I imagine I changed the way I was walking to keep the pressure off the ball of my foot and it has just gradually stressed the area. So just started rolling my feet again, and am testing walking around the house without shoes to let my feet strengthen back up. I think being in shoes nonstop has probably weekend them a bit too.

I would also not be surprised if some level of fat loss can increase this. I notice when I'm leaning out my feet are a little more sensitive when squatting or pulling in my flats FWIW....
 
Nice work! Bummer about the foot!
Thanks, it seems to be getting a little better now.
Great job Kleen….making short work of your goals…the Beach is calling your name.💪😎👍
Yes Sir, the beach IS calling my name.
congrats dude!!



I would also not be surprised if some level of fat loss can increase this. I notice when I'm leaning out my feet are a little more sensitive when squatting or pulling in my flats FWIW....
Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me at all. That and just weak feet from not having been barefoot for any period of time for the last 2 months.

It has been a great week for training so far. I have already trained everything once on a slightly modified Push Legs Pull split. Very simple actually.

Push - Chest Press, Fly, Shoulder Press, Lateral Raise, Rear Delt Swings, 1-2 Biceps Movements

Legs - Full thigh Movement (Leg Press, or Machine Squat Variation) Quads - Lunges, Leg Extensions, Hamstrings (Leg Curl, SLDL, GHR, or Hip Thrust Machine), Adductors Machine

Pull - Vertical Pull, Horizontal Pull, Lateral Raise, Rear Delt Swings, 1-2 Triceps movements (Dips, and or Triceps Extension Variation).

This gives the arms and shoulders are both touched twice per a 3 day workout cycle. Then I will take one or 2 days off and repeat for the most part but really just depends on my recovery.

Some other good news, we got this bad boy at my gym. It is the Premier Strength Power Squat, it was a little hard to find my footing but once I did this thing was firing on all cylinders. Quads, Hams, Glutes, all firing like a mofo!!!

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Also, I was finally able to buy a Commercial Quality Wide Adjustable Bench, and this thing is a beast!!! It is so heavy, and heavy duty!!!! I will take a picture tonight after I go pick it up from the gym. It is one of those slot adjustable ones with the nooks to put the cross bar in to hold the angle. The slots or nooks to sit the adjustment bar into has 2 channels 6-8 inches apart instead of just one contact point, and makes it feel so stable. No rocking or instability at any angle or any weight I have seen used on it and some of the bigger guys are moving the 125's and 150's. My bench at home is just a Weider with a single contact point and it is unstable. I have to push back into it so hard to get stable sometimes the bench moves from the leg drive. This bench will allow me to do a lot of things that the thin benches cause me pain on without the pain. I noticed it during my year of prepping for the show. Then they got new benches and they were all the standard pads and they just sucked for me. Having the edge of the bench dig into my trouble areas while moving through a range of motion was causing a lot of problems for me.

THE GREAT NEWS IS THAT I GOT IT FOR $100!!!!!! That is one hell of a deal in my opinion. Even better they have 3 and I get to pick the best out of all of them! :)

After this I may order another Titan pulley tower and set them up about 4.5-5 feet apart in the garage, and then might even cancel my gym membership for a while. He also told me they are waiting for another set of new DB's to come in and he would sell me any of the old DB's I wanted for pennies on the dollar. So I may be finding a way to pick up some DB's here shortly if the price is right. I almost have a set of 3-55lbs, just missing about 4 pairs. So that may be something I look into if I can find a way to swing it at the time.

Monday - Push and Biceps

Incline DB Press - 4 hard sets
Machine Flies - 10 full reps @1-2RIR then straight into 10 Long Range partials x 2 sets.
This is something I came up with on a whim, and honestly I find it much more effective than doing 21s which in my opinion waste effort on the 7 half reps at the peak of contraction.

Shoulder Press machine - 3 hard sets - The last one having a burnout in the long range partial.
Side Lateral Machine - 3 hard sets - The last one having a burnout in the long range partial.
Banded Pull Aparts - 3 sets to almost failure.
Alternating Dead Hang DB Curls - 4 sets -
last set to failure at reaching the halfway point.

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Tuesday - Legs - sets around 2RIR unless otherwise noted.
Power Squat - 5 sets
Walking Lunges - 45, 35, 25 sets @1RIR
Leg Extensions x3 sets -
The last one having a burnout in the long range partial.
GHR x3 hard sets
Seated leg Curls x3 sets -
The last one having a burnout in the long range partial.
Adductors - x 3 sets
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Wednesday - Back and Triceps - Hard sets = around 2RIR Unless otherwise noted

Lat Pull Downs x 4 hard sets
Seated Rows x4 sets

Medial Delt Swings - 3 sets
- The last one having a burnout in the long range partial.
Banded Pull Aparts - Blue band - 3 sets to failure
DB Overhead Triceps Ext - x 3 sets -
The last one having a burnout in the long range partial.

Weight has been fluctuating between 201 and 202.6 this week since increasing my eating a little bit. I actually look bigger and a little tighter, so I am okay with that.
 
I am so hungry today, I could eat a horse... I have been fasting but 3 days of eating throughout the day and I am hungry. I only intend a 24 hour fast so looking forward to a big protein and carb heavy meal tonight.

I don't want to push it I am so sore today in my legs I am whining in pain every time I get up or walk up stairs. We have a tunnel from the garage to the building and it has a slope down then back up. Walking down killed my quad then walking up killed my hams and glutes. Getting up from sitting after any period of time is excruciating!

So I want to give it a big meal to recover more tonight or I may not be able to do legs Saturday. Besides now is about looking better, and rebuilding while getting leaner. Not just losing weight anymore. So food is the word!
 
Man that Premier Strength Power Squat looks like a Beast…..that’s awesome about that bench….that’s one of the best ways to get good used equipment is just let gym owners know when they get new equipment that you’re interested in buying some of their old stuff. And generally commercial equipment will last you forever as long as it’s taken care of.👍
 
Man that Premier Strength Power Squat looks like a Beast…..that’s awesome about that bench….that’s one of the best ways to get good used equipment is just let gym owners know when they get new equipment that you’re interested in buying some of their old stuff. And generally commercial equipment will last you forever as long as it’s taken care of.
Oh it is, I can tell you some people will have to warm up on something else. That carriage was much heavier than I expected! Once I got the right position I could go ass to ankles and it was gloriously hard work. It tore me up! Even better the angle of the pads I was able to put more of the pressure lower and further back on my shoulders away from the neck so it didn't really bother my neck or upper thoracic area.
 
That machine looks sick. I was wondering how heavy the yoke was. It looks well made!!! Nice full ROM for the stretch. And 100 for a legit bench and you get pick of the litter. Some positive vibes right there.
 
That and just weak feet from not having been barefoot for any period of time for the last 2 months.
you know that almost makes me want to pull my old vibrams out of storage and wear them a bit around the house, walking the dog etc.
I find it much more effective than doing 21s which in my opinion waste effort on the 7 half reps at the peak of contraction.

funny you mention that... last couple sessions when I started in on 21s, I actually just went with a full 21 reps at light weight instead for that same reason. the more I work biceps the pickier I get (and more frustrated) in trying to find that perfect ROM sensation.
 
That machine looks sick. I was wondering how heavy the yoke was. It looks well made!!! Nice full ROM for the stretch. And 100 for a legit bench and you get pick of the litter. Some positive vibes right there.
Yeah it is a beast.
Man, some awesome updates. A great bench makes everything feel better!
Yes it does!
you know that almost makes me want to pull my old vibrams out of storage and wear them a bit around the house, walking the dog etc.


funny you mention that... last couple sessions when I started in on 21s, I actually just went with a full 21 reps at light weight instead for that same reason. the more I work biceps the pickier I get (and more frustrated) in trying to find that perfect ROM sensation.
I just go between variations and push hard, adjust positioning, and ROM to find the most tension, and stop where it stops. I have also been concentrating on flexing the biceps more and letting that move the weight instead of concentrating on lifting the dumbbell itself. Then some movements end up in more of a long range partial to keep the line of tension, and others I flex up to the top or bring my elbows forward slightly. With all of that I have no doubt I am getting them effectively in all areas over the course of the exercises and week. I you hit preachers, alternating or barbell curls for the heavy work, and something with the arms behind your back like an incline DB curl, flat bench DB Curl, or cable curls on a cable/functional trainer facing away and a little away from it to pull the arms back and you have all the ends of the muscle covered. Lengthened, Shortened at medial end while stretched in the distal end of the biceps, and then the full rom. Everything is covered. You can add in Hammers if you don't do much neutral grip pulling.
Hmmmmm, stealing gym equipment in here I see? 🤣

Nice score!
Thanks! I got in a nice session for chest and shoulder press on it yesterday!!! I am about to go do some legs, I won't be on the Premier, I think carrying the bench down the stairs I aggravated my neck and trap a little so I am going to do the Seated Hack Squat Sled, basically you push the seat not having anything on your shoulders but the same angle and quad focus. It's a lower back and neck saver but not my favorite thing to use. It is effective just not fun to do.
 
I just go between variations and push hard, adjust positioning, and ROM to find the most tension, and stop where it stops. I have also been concentrating on flexing the biceps more and letting that move the weight instead of concentrating on lifting the dumbbell itself. Then some movements end up in more of a long range partial to keep the line of tension, and others I flex up to the top or bring my elbows forward slightly. With all of that I have no doubt I am getting them effectively in all areas over the course of the exercises and week. I you hit preachers, alternating or barbell curls for the heavy work, and something with the arms behind your back like an incline DB curl, flat bench DB Curl, or cable curls on a cable/functional trainer facing away and a little away from it to pull the arms back and you have all the ends of the muscle covered. Lengthened, Shortened at medial end while stretched in the distal end of the biceps, and then the full rom. Everything is covered. You can add in Hammers if you don't do much neutral grip pulling.

I might be fooling myself a bit but last week as the db's were getting close to failure I was throwing in my cheater reps to finish out the pump and in my head I was thinking, any newbie would think I'm an idiot, and I'd never recommend or teach cheater reps necessarily, but I was getting that last squeeze, full blooded pump. cheating a bit of the middle with a tight squeeze at the top and as slow of a descent as possible and I figured in my head, I knew which area I was targeting, I was definitely finding it, I was getting the results I wanted and I trust my form so regardless of how it looked to someone else, I must be on to something. I do think that my experience in oly lifting helps a lot when it comes to cheaters though, and just general sports experience becuase you learn how to spring/coil/catch things in a way that hopefully won't lead to tears or injuries.
 
I might be fooling myself a bit but last week as the db's were getting close to failure I was throwing in my cheater reps to finish out the pump and in my head I was thinking, any newbie would think I'm an idiot, and I'd never recommend or teach cheater reps necessarily, but I was getting that last squeeze, full blooded pump. cheating a bit of the middle with a tight squeeze at the top and as slow of a descent as possible and I figured in my head, I knew which area I was targeting, I was definitely finding it, I was getting the results I wanted and I trust my form so regardless of how it looked to someone else, I must be on to something. I do think that my experience in oly lifting helps a lot when it comes to cheaters though, and just general sports experience becuase you learn how to spring/coil/catch things in a way that hopefully won't lead to tears or injuries.
That connection is a lot easier for someone with good athletic abilities.

Last week was a rough week, I got very sick starting last Sunday night, Monday I ended up going home from work, and I was out through Wednesday, and came back Thursday. I had a hard time eating, and only managed to train everything once during the week. I did start my cycle last week, and I am currently running a total of 525mg, 315mg TE, and 210mg Mast E on an EOD dosing schedule. Weight has gone up around 203-204lbs with the addition, and me loading up on carbs the entire weekend to help get some glycogen back into in the muscle.

The Premier Power Squat is my new go to leg machine. I found a great foot placement that allows me to put some power into the work while still getting Ass to Ankles deep. I also brought the weight belt back out for a spin and boy did it help.

Some other happenings, Thursday the power went out in the building and I had to walk up 41 flights to drop off a network switch that I had gone down to storage to pick up. It was way to expensive for me to leave and take in my car with me. Especially going to a concert that evening. I waited a little bit to rest, then I walked back down a little bit later. What a way to test yourself on a return to work day eh?

My legs were sore for a couple days from the stairs, especially my calves. Then we went to see Papa Roach Thursday night, and that took up that evening. So my training was all done Fri, Sat, and Sunday. I am taking a down day today, I will go take a long walk later to shake some of the pain and stiffness out of my legs from hitting them yesterday. Then get back into lifting again tomorrow.

Oh yeah the gym got a premier Rowing Machine, it looks pretty intense...

I might be fooling myself a bit but last week as the db's were getting close to failure I was throwing in my cheater reps to finish out the pump and in my head I was thinking, any newbie would think I'm an idiot, and I'd never recommend or teach cheater reps necessarily, but I was getting that last squeeze, full blooded pump. cheating a bit of the middle with a tight squeeze at the top and as slow of a descent as possible and I figured in my head, I knew which area I was targeting, I was definitely finding it, I was getting the results I wanted and I trust my form so regardless of how it looked to someone else, I must be on to something. I do think that my experience in oly lifting helps a lot when it comes to cheaters though, and just general sports experience becuase you learn how to spring/coil/catch things in a way that hopefully won't lead to tears or injuries.
That connection is a lot easier for someone with good athletic abilities.

Last week was a rough week, I got very sick starting last Sunday night, Monday I ended up going home from work, and I was out through Wednesday, and came back Thursday. I had a hard time eating, and only managed to train everything once during the week. I did start my cycle last week, and I am currently running a total of 525mg, 315mg TE, and 210mg Mast E on an EOD dosing schedule. Weight has gone up around 203-204lbs with the addition, and me loading up on carbs the entire weekend to help get some glycogen back into in the muscle.

The Premier Power Squat is my new go to leg machine. I found a great foot placement that allows me to put some power into the work while still getting Ass to Ankles deep. I also brought the weight belt back out for a spin and boy did it help.

Some other happenings, Thursday the power went out in the building and I had to walk up 41 flights to drop off a network switch that I had gone down to storage to pick up. It was way to expensive for me to leave and take in my car with me. Especially going to a concert that evening. I waited a little bit to rest, then I walked back down a little bit later. What a way to test yourself on a return to work day eh?

My legs were sore for a couple days from the stairs, especially my calves. Then we went to see Papa Roach Thursday night, and that took up that evening. So my training was all done Fri, Sat, and Sunday. I am taking a down day today, I will go take a long walk later to shake some of the pain and stiffness out of my legs from hitting them yesterday. Then get back into lifting again tomorrow.

Oh yeah the gym got a Premier Back Row Machine, it looks pretty intense... I haven't used it yet, but plan to give it a show. See what I think about it.
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Here are a few pics from the concert, Jo got us floor seats and it was a nice surprise!
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41 flights! LOL when I had my loft in Tacoma I would often intentionally take the stairs but my "top floor" unit was only 5 flights up haha. not sure about 41 of them!

Love that pic of you guys. Rivelino would say you pass the green line test.
 
41 flights! LOL when I had my loft in Tacoma I would often intentionally take the stairs but my "top floor" unit was only 5 flights up haha. not sure about 41 of them!

Love that pic of you guys. Rivelino would say you pass the green line test.
Yeah, it wasn't fun. My calves got so sore it was hard walking, especially after being off my feet for any period of time. When I got downstairs if I put my weight on the balls of my feet and lifted my heel just a little bit my knees and ankles tremble so bad that they would make me shake like a giant vibrator!

Thanks! We are a happy couple!
 
Yeah, it wasn't fun. My calves got so sore it was hard walking, especially after being off my feet for any period of time. When I got downstairs if I put my weight on the balls of my feet and lifted my heel just a little bit my knees and ankles tremble so bad that they would make me shake like a giant vibrator!

Thanks! We are a happy couple!
I got a pump just reading about the 41 flights. How many port switch? We talking rack size?

Glad you and your wife got some quality time out as a couple. I miss going to shows/concerts. Use to love going but not doing well in crowds lately. It’s like I’m always on high alert, scoping out potential problems, back against a wall, and eyeing exits. Why did I go down the rabbit hole on YouTube of identifying potential threats??? lmao
 
I got a pump just reading about the 41 flights. How many port switch? We talking rack size?

Glad you and your wife got some quality time out as a couple. I miss going to shows/concerts. Use to love going but not doing well in crowds lately. It’s like I’m always on high alert, scoping out potential problems, back against a wall, and eyeing exits. Why did I go down the rabbit hole on YouTube of identifying potential threats??? lmao
Yes Sir full rack blade. It's a meraki switch and is about $9000, Way too expensive for me to be carting around in my car, parking downtown. Can you imagine it being stolen and me catching the blame? NOPE. Not interested!

Surprisingly, my knees didn't hurt the next day, they actually felt a little less tight. They did give me a little grief while warming up for legs yesterday, but nothing out of the ordinary needing a couple extra warm up sets didn't fix. Walking up the stairs at the venue got tiring that night for sure. LOL
 
Yes Sir full rack blade. It's a meraki switch and is about $9000, Way too expensive for me to be carting around in my car, parking downtown. Can you imagine it being stolen and me catching the blame? NOPE. Not interested!

Surprisingly, my knees didn't hurt the next day, they actually felt a little less tight. They did give me a little grief while warming up for legs yesterday, but nothing out of the ordinary needing a couple extra warm up sets didn't fix. Walking up the stairs at the venue got tiring that night for sure. LOL
Good call on a price tag item like that. If something did happen “why was that left in your car? You left 9k in company property in your personal vehicle unattended?”

Nice that the knees were cool w that amount of volume. Did you have a hoodie on?🤣
 
That connection is a lot easier for someone with good athletic abilities.

Last week was a rough week, I got very sick starting last Sunday night, Monday I ended up going home from work, and I was out through Wednesday, and came back Thursday. I had a hard time eating, and only managed to train everything once during the week. I did start my cycle last week, and I am currently running a total of 525mg, 315mg TE, and 210mg Mast E on an EOD dosing schedule. Weight has gone up around 203-204lbs with the addition, and me loading up on carbs the entire weekend to help get some glycogen back into in the muscle.

The Premier Power Squat is my new go to leg machine. I found a great foot placement that allows me to put some power into the work while still getting Ass to Ankles deep. I also brought the weight belt back out for a spin and boy did it help.

Some other happenings, Thursday the power went out in the building and I had to walk up 41 flights to drop off a network switch that I had gone down to storage to pick up. It was way to expensive for me to leave and take in my car with me. Especially going to a concert that evening. I waited a little bit to rest, then I walked back down a little bit later. What a way to test yourself on a return to work day eh?

My legs were sore for a couple days from the stairs, especially my calves. Then we went to see Papa Roach Thursday night, and that took up that evening. So my training was all done Fri, Sat, and Sunday. I am taking a down day today, I will go take a long walk later to shake some of the pain and stiffness out of my legs from hitting them yesterday. Then get back into lifting again tomorrow.

Oh yeah the gym got a premier Rowing Machine, it looks pretty intense...


That connection is a lot easier for someone with good athletic abilities.

Last week was a rough week, I got very sick starting last Sunday night, Monday I ended up going home from work, and I was out through Wednesday, and came back Thursday. I had a hard time eating, and only managed to train everything once during the week. I did start my cycle last week, and I am currently running a total of 525mg, 315mg TE, and 210mg Mast E on an EOD dosing schedule. Weight has gone up around 203-204lbs with the addition, and me loading up on carbs the entire weekend to help get some glycogen back into in the muscle.

The Premier Power Squat is my new go to leg machine. I found a great foot placement that allows me to put some power into the work while still getting Ass to Ankles deep. I also brought the weight belt back out for a spin and boy did it help.

Some other happenings, Thursday the power went out in the building and I had to walk up 41 flights to drop off a network switch that I had gone down to storage to pick up. It was way to expensive for me to leave and take in my car with me. Especially going to a concert that evening. I waited a little bit to rest, then I walked back down a little bit later. What a way to test yourself on a return to work day eh?

My legs were sore for a couple days from the stairs, especially my calves. Then we went to see Papa Roach Thursday night, and that took up that evening. So my training was all done Fri, Sat, and Sunday. I am taking a down day today, I will go take a long walk later to shake some of the pain and stiffness out of my legs from hitting them yesterday. Then get back into lifting again tomorrow.

Oh yeah the gym got a Premier Back Row Machine, it looks pretty intense... I haven't used it yet, but plan to give it a show. See what I think about it.
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Here are a few pics from the concert, Jo got us floor seats and it was a nice surprise!
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That sounds like a challenging week, but glad you were able to heal up from being sick. And climbing 41 flights of stairs is no joke even when you feel good, but that had to be rough after being sick. But glad you were able to have a good time at the concert with your lady. I’m sure that’s the stress relief you needed after all the challenges.👍
 
Yeah, it wasn't fun. My calves got so sore it was hard walking, especially after being off my feet for any period of time. When I got downstairs if I put my weight on the balls of my feet and lifted my heel just a little bit my knees and ankles tremble so bad that they would make me shake like a giant vibrator!
you have one of those grey area jobs that's sorta white collar with a lot of manual aspects, do you wear trainer type shoes or dress shoes? I wear wingtips for the office so putting on my Saucony's always feels like stepping into a cloud after a day of dress shoes.
 
you have one of those grey area jobs that's sorta white collar with a lot of manual aspects, do you wear trainer type shoes or dress shoes? I wear wingtips for the office so putting on my Saucony's always feels like stepping into a cloud after a day of dress shoes.
If you work with networking equipment, there’s always an expectation that you can install and cable said equipment. Nevermind that a server loaded with drives may end up 50+lbs & need to fit in the top a rack over your head height lol. If you can’t use a ladder & a drill, you will inevitably learn.
 
If you work with networking equipment, there’s always an expectation that you can install and cable said equipment. Nevermind that a server loaded with drives may end up 50+lbs & need to fit in the top a rack over your head height lol. If you can’t use a ladder & a drill, you will inevitably learn.
yeah on my side of the industry its always been a juxtaposition of what to wear to work (we're on the manufacturing side) so we may work with engineers, techs, buyers, and the old addage "other duties as needed" is always in play. some days the necktie might be more likely to kill you than promote you lol
 
Good call on a price tag item like that. If something did happen “why was that left in your car? You left 9k in company property in your personal vehicle unattended?”

Nice that the knees were cool w that amount of volume. Did you have a hoodie on?🤣
Haha, no hoodie!
That sounds like a challenging week, but glad you were able to heal up from being sick. And climbing 41 flights of stairs is no joke even when you feel good, but that had to be rough after being sick. But glad you were able to have a good time at the concert with your lady. I’m sure that’s the stress relief you needed after all the challenges.👍
Yes Sir it washed away the rest of the week for me.
you have one of those grey area jobs that's sorta white collar with a lot of manual aspects, do you wear trainer type shoes or dress shoes? I wear wingtips for the office so putting on my Saucony's always feels like stepping into a cloud after a day of dress shoes.
Yeah, I would say 90% of it is white collar, with more hardware required when setting up things. For the most part
If you work with networking equipment, there’s always an expectation that you can install and cable said equipment. Nevermind that a server loaded with drives may end up 50+lbs & need to fit in the top a rack over your head height lol. If you can’t use a ladder & a drill, you will inevitably learn.
Yeah, and mounting or swapping out a UPS definitely requires some muscle and endurance if you are doing it alone.
yeah on my side of the industry its always been a juxtaposition of what to wear to work (we're on the manufacturing side) so we may work with engineers, techs, buyers, and the old addage "other duties as needed" is always in play. some days the necktie might be more likely to kill you than promote you lol
I wear my Brooks running shoes to work now, with jeans and a polo/golf shirt 90% of the time. Before COVID it was business casual, but the dress code was loosened quite a bit during and it stuck around after. I would say most men who are not attorneys don't even tuck their shirts in any more. So I tend to go more for comfort than a casual dress shoe since dressing up is no longer required. I have some button ups that pretty much haven't seen the light of day since COVID. LOL
Great concert photo Kleen!
Thanks!!!

Training has been pretty decent, still trying to find the best pattern for frequency, but having to adjust it regularly to keep the neck and lower back issues in check. Unfortunately I never know if an exercise is going to cause me issues or not and I am backing away on the days I feel the risk is high or my symptoms are elevated. I am filling out a lot and feel like I am growing. I will get a good weight sometime this weekend but I would guess in the 204 range. The weight should start coming back down, but I tend to look tighter and bigger in my clothes right now, while not noticing any difference in where my abs are right now. Still not amazing when standing upright and tightening but in an FDB with or something with my arms over my head they can be seen pretty easily. I am guessing this will put me somewhere around 195-200 at the end of this, maybe a little lower. It all really depends on how hard I am able to push things. Chest really lit me up earlier this week so I stuck with walking, and stretching to loosen the lower back and let the neck recover a little bit. I overarched on the chest press machine, putting my feet behind me because it felt like a great position to press from but my lower back did not appreciate it, and the bench bit into my sensitive area on my back / shoulder that lit it up, or I did something odd with my neck that triggered it. Not something I will let dissuade me from the goal.

My chest is a little sore from my push workout, so I know we made a little progress there. :)
 
I wear my Brooks running shoes to work now, with jeans and a polo/golf shirt 90% of the time. Before COVID it was business casual, but the dress code was loosened quite a bit during and it stuck around after. I would say most men who are not attorneys don't even tuck their shirts in any more. So I tend to go more for comfort than a casual dress shoe since dressing up is no longer required. I have some button ups that pretty much haven't seen the light of day since COVID. LOL
I had to create a dress code like 15 years ago for our staff cause I had guys show up in printed concert tees, and I'm talking about guys who interact with million dollar account customers.... so its all button downs and nice shoes now, but I always look forward to Fridays because that's the day I'll wear my nice jeans, still a button down but often a flannel, and my cowboy boots.

Training has been pretty decent, still trying to find the best pattern for frequency,

I'm contemplating the idea of moving to something more similar to Cutlers split. I've always tried to combine smaller groups (like biceps) with bigger groups (like back. or triceps + chest) because of the idea that large compound movements drove more natural growth (hormone or otherwise) and would benefit the smaller groups greater than if I were just hitting biceps and triceps, but if I can eek out some gains with Cutlers split then a day like yesterday where it was just arms, is a bit more fun, less taxing, and leaves me time/space for a meaninful cardio addition... we'll see...
 
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